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Minister Vorontsov/Mr. Kissinger
8:10 p.m., May 19, 1972
K:
Not the ultimate number of the boats but we think that those 90
missiles should be replaced.
V:
I see. But the figure, you can leave with this figure?
K:
We can leave the figure of 950 and 62. I'm herewith confirming
to you again --
V:
Not 48?
K:
Well, the 48 is really a -- if you can find a way the figure 48 is
really a working figure from which you count the replacements.
V:
Yeah.
K:
What we want is to somehow find a way of getting rid of the G&H
class submarines as part of this process.
V:
Yeah.
K:
Because we will have a massive problem with our Congressional
opponents. met this afternoon with some of our Congressional
opponents and I can assure you that we will have an unbelievable
job selling this agreement.
V:
see.
K:
Now, if it's the issue and this is what I had told Anatol to begin with.
V:
Yes, I know that; he mentioned it to me.
K:
So that is what -- why we are hanging up on the 48. The end result
for you will still be 950 modern missiles.
V:
Yeah, 950 and 62 is okay.
K:
That's no problem.
V:
Um-humm. Shall I report this, that the 48 you'd like to get out and
just to --
K:
Well, what we want to get -- if your people -- the best way of handling
it would be to get rid of the 48 and to say that the C&H class submarines
would be counted in this replacement. Then I think we would have all
problems solved.
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