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Ambassador Dobrynin/HAK
Oct. 15, 1972; 8:35 p.m.
K; Hello
D: Hello, Henry. You are already back?
K: Yes, Anatol.
D: Have you had a chance to look through it ?
K: Yes. I had a chance to look through it.
D: Do you have any additional comments?
K: Well, here is the comment I have to make. We have had a study made
of all the prisoners there and of course we haven't been able to approach
the Saigon government yet.
D: Uh, huh.
K: Because I want to present the agreement to them myself. And I think
something can be done but first the other side must work with us realistically.
D: Uh, huh.
K: Now the biggest problem I have concerns their own forces in the south
because the practical consequence of their proposal is that not only do they
want to keep all of their forces in the south, they want Saigon to release
40,000 people whom they consider, you know, guerrillas, to then join
those forces. And that is an almost impossible product to sell. Now you
know if we spend 6 weeks on it we can probably get something done.
D: Yeah.
K: If you are going to do it in 2 or 3 days they have to be concrete in one of
two ways. If they pull some of their units out, then I have a much better
basis to talk.
D: You mean along those lines you mentioned.
K: Along the lines I mentioned. Let them move some of the divisions. My
proposal to them was that they should move the divisions that were never in
the country before March 25th. That they moved in after March 25th. Most
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