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4 D: That's all right but I know that he doesn't have any instruction, on this I know for sure. K: He probably wants to get the order. D: No, I think he - he knows that when he left that there was an idea that in June we'll be meeting so keeping in view this one - as you know, as one of the objects to discuss so he tried to produce some results. But he didn't have, I know for sure, his instructions because I read it. K: I tell you what we should do this week, Anatol. We should talk on a thinking out loud basis what we should try to manage on this treaty. D: This is exactly, really. K: And then we must have some latitude to manage it with our Allies. That's - usually when we have discussed on a thinking out loud basis it's come out that way. D: Yeh. You see, with the Allies we have the same problem that you have. And after all really, the really beginnings when the President was in Moscow there was discussion with our leaders. Even at that time there was some concern as though we didn't have it and it was our impression that you didn't have it. Some maybe say something but nobody said anything against. After all, a leading country has a right to say something or do something. It is good for them and for their Allies. They don't go in to deceive them so why should they be concerned about what some- body said and so on, I mean. K: Anatol, what we should do tomorrow is to have a preliminary talk going through it carefully. D: The two texts, yeh. K: Then we meet again later this week. At least once and probably twice. And then if you go back on Sunday - what about the date though? D: Well, up to now I don't have anything really. K: That frankly is beginning to irritate the President. D: I understand.

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