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OCR Page 1 of 124TELCON
Ambassador Dobrynin/Mr. Kissinger
4:45 p. m. , May 1, 1973
D:
Hello.
K:
Anatol.
D:q
Yes, hello, Henry.
K:
On that Article IV, we can accept -- Where the hell is it? (looking
for paper) I'll find it any hour now.
D:
(laughter) I hope everything is all right fourth paragraph.
K:
Well, the one we're talking about.
D:
Yes, I know. We have too many paragraphs probably.
K:
Oh, here we are. Types of strategic offensive arms is all right.
D:
Uh-huh. Instead of nuclear deliveries?
K:
Yeah.
D:
Yeah. What about simultaneous?
K:
Now, the simultaneously -- I don't think you have read the sentence
carefully. What it says is: To resolve the question of those other
delivery systems which one might consider a strategic set or these
other types of strategic offensive arms, they agree that neither side
will circumvent a permanent agreement through systems not limited.
That makes it simultaneous.
D
D:
But it is not quite clear really. Because if I look about your
dynamics of your thought, previous one was concentrate. Now you
really just say that they will agree to establish. But does it mean,
as you imply, that they should be simultaneously?
K:
Simultaneously there will be no circumvention, yes.
D:
Yes, you mean to discuss them or to resolve them and they will
discuss the results simultaneously. Not first one and the second one.
This is not interpretation?
K:
My interpretation is that this makes it simultaneous.