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-2- D: No, No, I understand the issues, buts because some session you have. So we will take it and begin on Monday. K: I just had it before me now they have taken it away from meagain. Hold on a second. D: Okay. K: Hello, I had a happy life before I had this bureaucracy. I even got work done. D: Well I think you are trying to get rid of them. By not appointing your Assistant Secretary. Finally you will be Kt You know there are things for example we cannot accept the reference to the nuclear testing as an objective to be comprehensive and universal, but we can accept comprehensive. But you know, there are a lot of minor things, you know the rights and interests of all states and people in the area including the Arab people of Palestine. You know phrases like that and at the end you say frank atmosphere and fruitful result. Frank usually means there was a lot of disagreement You can say constructive, friendly. D: In understand K: But this is the sort of thing it is not worth; substantially it is agreeable. D: Go back and we will sit down with you together. K: Right. Now Anatolyv, I have the transcript of my conversation here with Gromyko. Actually from Geneva. D: You mentioned to him 40, 45,000. K: Let me just read you what I have. I said the General Secretary said to me and to Kennedy that everybody without a security clearance can go. Gromyko said we told you. Then I stad If it were possible for me to say this, and Gromyko says you can say this. Then if I could get an estimate of what this means in numbers, Gromyko says, what age would you say. I said last year it was 35, 000. Gromyko says right. Then I said, if I could say 40 to 45, 000, Gromyko said for what period? I said for a year, Gromyko said what year, I said for the whole year as a yardstick. Gromyko said approximately as i a trend that is all right. Then I said, what I will say is my estimate is based on all my conversations this means 40 to 45, 000. Gromyko says yess you will be

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