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Mr. Kissinger/The President
December 19, 1970
K:
I think it would be very helpful.
P:
Although I'11 tell Moorer and I'11 tell Moorer he's not to tell
Laird. Now, let's start playing the game rough.
K:
I think, Mr. President, it is another example because they only
had a force of about 3,000 there and Haig said that if we had put
in helicopter gunships which hadn't been authorized
P:
I would have authorized them
.
K:
Well, it would have been really like shooting pigeons but as it
was, it was a slaughter. And even if the figure is exaggerated,
I don't know how they count a 1,000 from the air, the fact is that
the town that they took has been evacuated and has been retaken
and that the pressure in that area has stopped.
P:
Yeah, the AP is out writing a story everyday that Cambodia
is about to fall.
K:
That's right and
P:
We've got to
K:
Well, Laird, he liked very much -- he didn't give me -- I didn't
have a chance to talk to him about the press yet. But I thought
you might like to know that because that operation had succeeded.
P:
?
K:
Right, Mr. President
P:
K:
Well, because, Mr. President, when you gave that order we
immediately called Pursley
P:
He tried to countermand.
K:
Instead, well, he did it in the clever bureaucratic way, he sent
out a request for further information. Well, that way it would have
gone on for 4 days, then the next day, you called me again and I
just called Moorer directly and I said the hell with the further
information, do it -- anything that flies and if you hit water buffaloes,
just drop it.
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