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TELCON (Tape)
- 5 -
The President/Mr. Kissinger
December 19, 1970 -- 5:30
P:
They don't react enthusiastically when I say that they have to take
the responsibility because they are a bunch of weaklings, that's
their problem.
K:
That's absolutely right.
P:
But I tell you, it's a hellva lot different now than it was a year ago.
K:
Oh, God -- what if you compare it with the situation right after Cambodia.
Who would have thought that the supplemental would have rolled
through and things like that. And that's an indication of the public
mood.
P:
There's nothing we can do to stir the Polish thing up?
K:
I'm afraid not but still here is another Communist regime that has
had to use troops against its own workers.
P:
Get that out.
K:
Right.
P:
Let's get the real PR effort on that and don't let State, Defense -- The
regime, are they putting out defense of the regime, they hope that
everything -- no violence, I hope not.
K:
I haven't seen anything yet. We had a meeting yesterday and we
P:
In one column, I noticed that the United States, Scalli was being carried
and he's right but I just want to be damn sure that we don't appear
that we're stirring them up but on the other hand, we know that we
don't condone this at all.
K:
We may be impudent, Mr. President, but what these fellows say
depends a lot on what they are told.
P:
Yeah.
K:
If they are told this is another indication of a workers' revolution in
a Communist regime, some of them will say it and that's what we
ought to get out.
P:
Get that out and around through the bureaucracy tomorrow, will you?
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