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Mr. Kissinger/Under Secretary Irwin
January 11, 1971
K:
Hello, Jack.
Yeah.
K:
How are you?
Good, sir.
K:
Jack, I just wanted to call you briefly, I am going to another one of
these interminable Freeman farewells.
The which ones?
K:
Freeman, the Ambassador, is leaving.
Oh.
K:
About that African cable, the situation is as follows: The President
promised Heath when they were at Camp David that he would do nothing
to embarass him, especially not during the Commonwealth Conference
and this would seem to me to be a gratuitous thing. I mean no one
asked our opinion and we don't have to comment on every newspaper
article that exists that is written.
Well, part of -- of course one of the reasons is we wanted to be sure
we talked to you is that we didn't really know we don't know what
transpired in the conversation between
K:
Well, I'm going to get -- the reason frankly is that I've literally not
had the time to type it up yet.
My concern is not of course carrying out what the Presiden said
because I agree we shouldn't do anything to upset the British --
to
make
it even more difficult for them. On the other hand I think they very
likely will try to tie an interest in the Indian Ocean into effect our
approving their actions in South Africa.
K:
But they haven't done that yet, have they?
I wouldn't be at all surprised if that report in the Times is a deliberate
leak. Seems to me -- I don't know when we were sitting in our
conversations, Lord Hume really partly as speculation and partly
as question and part philosophy, I hardly had the time to characterize
just what he was doing, but he commented on well, we sometimes think
that we should deal with the powers that matter in Africa, the powers
that can make a contribution
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