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The President/Mr. Kissinger
March 24, 1971
P:
Well, anyway, how did you get along with Dobrynin.
K:
Well, we made some progress on Berlin. He doesn't have an answer
yet on the SALT thing and he says one of the reasons is that they have
to get a defense and foreign office position and they told him that they
were meeting on the five-year plan right now. Well, SO this may
slip for a few weeks.
P:
Humph.
:
K
Well, if we don't have it by the end of April, I would just make it
as a unilateral public proposal and then let them kick you -- let
them turn it down and then they are on the defensive.
P:
Yeah, I think so too. I think they may be just bickering about Laos
and the big win for them or something of that sort.
K:
And not give you a success, or it may really be that they --
P:
They may be SO damn confused.
K:
This is a tough bureaucratic problem for them to handle with
something SO
.
And with the Party Congress coming up.
P:
One thing, of course, that really kicked them hard on tonight, that
was allowing - ending the war in the right way was the important
thing.
K:
That was beautifully put.
P:
that just couldn't -- I said that the bugout Resolution was
everything
.
K:
That's right, that was beautifully put.
P:
Well, we shall see. Okay --
K:
I thought it was outstanding.
P:
All right, Henry, fine.
K:
Goodnight.
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