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The President/Mr. Kissinger
Brought in 4/4/71 (Tape)
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P:
That's
the difference between the two. Let me ask you one other
thing. What is the
I
noticed here that one wire report or something out about
the North Vietnamese attacking in some area
What I'm just thinking is that
is
there something going on right now that may hit before we go on on
Wednesday?
K:
Well, of course, they know your date, and they can always attack something.
There's no major campaign going on. They attacked a fire base in the highlands
last week, and overran part of it and then either were driven off or left while.
P:
That actually was what this story is about.
K:
But they had very heavy casualties.
P:
That's right. In fact, they said 1500 casualties and only 2 Americans
were killed in the whole damn thing.
K:
That's right. Well, the Americans concern 700 casualties, but nevertheless.
I mean 700 North Vietnamese. Still they took very heavy casualties.
spasm
P:
I really think your judgment with regard to the
theory is
right. As a matter of fact, Henry, when you look back on what they were doing
in
Cambodia. Those were little spasms when they started to cut roads and raise
hell.
K:
That's right.
P:
You know, after the sanctuary operation, they were rushing in. They
didn't have a hell of a lot of staying power. They couldn't stay any place they
went.
K:
That's exactly right. And here, where they think they have the
psychological momentum.
P:
You see, my point is that I don't want to be
just have lack of credibility
when I speak fairly confidently.
K:
Well, I think you are quite safe, Mr. President. I have been telling all
the newsmen and television guys. We cannot prevent.
we cannot predict whether
they'll do a high point now and then, or a series of high points, and they have
always the choice between putting more into a high point and then having less
protracted war. But we are talking about an average rate and on that I know you
are going to stand.
P:
Right. I'm confident about it, as you know, but what I'm concerned about,
Henry, is only that the TV the night you go on -- or at any extent
Well,
anyway, understand I'm just.
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