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TELCON (TAPE) Page 2 The President/Mr. Kissinger 11:45 p. m., , April 7, 1971 Brought in April 9, 1971 P: Be that as it may, don't blame them, but my point is we now know and you go to the staff meeting tomorrow and just listen and find out where everybody stands, you know. K: Right. P: And crap, they may not want to see where they stand. If they have got the guts, we want to know now, right? K: Exactly, Mr President. P: Cause we have done everything we can, Henry; there's no more that can be done. K: You have done everything that can be done; I think if it holds -- this is a jolt to Hanoi that you haven't buckled again and I think the only thing that can defeat us now is the homefront. I'm really quite optimistic about negotiations -- I mean, they attacked that Fire Base again today P: Oh. K: And they lost 250 men, and their troops just aren't that much good anymore. P: And we held the base. K: And we held the base. P: Good, Well, we will fight it off. K: I haven't seen any negative reaction yet. P: Oh, they will go after the business about being too emotional and all that crap. K: Yeah, but remember, Mr President P: We are talking to the people; I don't give a shit about K: The New York Times the day after your November 3rd speech, Reston nearly had a heart attack. P: Yeah.

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