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Ambassador Dob rynin
11/19/71 12:10 p. m.
D: Thank you very much for your book.
K: I don't know whether you should bring such a conservative book into the
Soviet Union.
D: I think I can.
K: Remember it was written in 1954.
D: It is a rather old subject, but still interesting. There was a time
when I was interested in that period.
K: One of your historians, Kwaslov (7) he once sent me the diplomatic
documents of that period from the Russian Foriegn Office it was about 8
volumes. They were in French at the time.
D: Most of them.
K: So I could read them and did.
D: He is now in the Academy of Sciences section dealing with hsitory.
If I see him
K: Give xhim my best regards. We used to have long talks about Germany.
One thing I wanted to tell you about -- I had a talk with the President who is
in
Key Biscayne this morning about our dinner. He asked me to reaffirm all
that
I
had said to you, that what I said to you reflected fbs his thinking.
The
only
area in which I wanted to give you his precise inside thinking so that you would
know it had to do with Vietnam. I mentioned to him what we discussed, and
abbut the absence of an offensive action
and he said, and this is a direct
quote
the absence of one isn't enough. We have got to have some movement
on the Prisoners. If there should be any escalation by us on the scale of Laos
or Cambodia, that would not be done XXXX as a surprise to you.
D: I think it would be a surprise.
K: We would not do it
but what I'm saying is that we would give you some
indication that something of this magnitude was geing prepared if it was.
D:
K: This is consistent with what I told you.
D: I hope we are on the cautious side.
K: We will be restrained.
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