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TELECON (Tape 2)
The President/Mr. Kissinger
ca 12:00 m. July 26, 1971
[Beginning of tape]
K:
doveshave written to me thanking me for the China move.
They think it's related.
P:
They are working like hell on this thing, I know. Well,
really their long vigil is about over. It's going to go one way or another.
I suppose our real problem, Henry, is that you look after the elections
and let's suppose Thieu wins -- that's what we really come down to,
isn't it?
K:
That's right.
P:
Then we offer -- all right, we'll get out and fix a date for POW's.
I suppose they could just sit there and thumb their noses at you, couldn't
they?
K:
Well
Yeah, they could do it, but they don't know how long
we are going to stay then.
P:
We could hang around and also
I would think, too, that the
ceasefire idea must have some appeal because we are still getting
quite a few raps of bombing, aren't we?
K:
Oh, yes.
P:
That's one card we've still got, and we've got to continue that.
K:
That's right, and particularly the bombing on the Laotian
infiltration trail.
P:
That's what I meant, and over the DMZ and the rest of it,
they'd like to get that stopped.
K:
Oh, yes, very much. No, I think, Mr. President
my
impression is I've never seen them SO insecure. All our intelligence
reports confirm it, and if they only knew how to settle it, I think if
Ho Chi Minh were there, they'd settle now. But they have a divided
leadership, and their Chou En-lai is ill.
P:
Oh, I suppose that's right. I suppose one question is whether
we want to enlist the Chinese on this at all.
K:
On Vietnam?
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