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(c TELECON (at home) Secretary Rogers R: Hope I didn't wake you up. K: No, no, I was up; I was out with my kids on the porch. R: Oh nice. How are they enjoying it? K: Oh this is terrific, perfect weather. R: Wonderful. Say, couple of things. One, are we going to meet -- I think we should, the Security Council or at least we should meet with the President before this meeting with the Japanese minister. Have you got one scheduled. K: I hadn't scheduled it yet but I think we should do it because there are really two entirely basic trends defeloping R: I know. K: One is the one of Alex Johnson and State and the one I tend to agree with. And I just don't know what the economic agencies really have in mind. R: No, I don't either and although I don't think we've got a panic on it I do think we ought to start getting it clarified, at least to help us formulate the tenor of what we say. K: I talked to Alex about it on Friday because I was concerned. We can do it in one of two ways. One, I can try to get a Security Council scheduled for Tuesday, the 7th, because the President won't really, in effect, be back before the 7th. R: I see. K: The other, that I propose to him as a is that he prepare for your signature a paper of what ought to be done ats the meeting which I will then get the President to approve, if he agrees with it and distribute to all the other agencies saying this is our line. R: Yeah, okay. Well, I think the important thing is to be prepared because obviously Japan is coming here well prepared as well prepared as they can be under the circumstances, and they are very fearful and I'm sure that if we appear to be vague as hell and we don't give them any signals at all - 00 and I'm not talking about substance, but at least the direction we're thinking about they're going to be terribly upset. K; Right.

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