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    "ocrText": "TELCON\n- 4 -\nSecretary Rogers/Mr. Kissinger\nK:\nYeah, but there are always two problems, one is do we affect the\nimmediate course of events and secondly, how do we position ourselves\neven if we can't affect the course of events.\nR:\nagree.\nK:\nBecause if you say we affect -- that anybody who can create a\nfait accompli, we then say we can't affect the course of events and\nwe'll not challenge it.\nR:\nOh, I don't\nseem to be suggesting, Henry, that I am drawing\na conclusion from my questions. I'm asking the same questions you\nare asking\nK:\nNo, I thinkthere should be a National Security I don't know\nwhether it should be a whole National Security Council meeting\nor a meeting of some of the close advisors.\nR:\nWell, I think that maybe that's better but I think we should and as I\nsay, because I asked the questions I'm not drawing the conclusions,\nI'm asking the questions and I think the President should ask the\nquestions.\nK:\nAbsolutely.\nR:\nI think we shouldn't act just in petulance, Christ, obviously it's\nannoying and obviously she's been a bitch.\nK:\nWell, so far he hasn't acted in petulance.\nR:\nNo, no; but I say it's one of those things where we ought to think\nabout it and talk about it and get the other fellow's point of view.\nMy own view would be that we ought tomorrow.\nK:\nYeah, the trouble tomorrow is that he's got that whole goddamn day\nscheduled with that television thing.\nR:\nWell, I think we ought to be careful about that. In other words, I\nthink that's one of the reasons I think we ought to have a meeting.\nIf major war is broken out and he spends the whole day taping a\ntelevision show, I'm not sure that's the best posture for him.\nK:\nNo, I think we have to have a meeting tomorrow.\nR:\nYeah, I think so. Okay, Henry, I'll be back in touch.\n[NLN"
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