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Governor Rockefeller
Mr. Kissinger
9/19/70, 8:20 a. m.
R:
My heart is with you. Happy is here and sends her love. I
am going to see Golda Meir.
K:
I know. I put in a little word. They were all for it. They
did not need much. I think they have handled it.
R:
I thank you very much. I wanted to get any counsel or advice
you might have. I am seeing her tomorrow.
K:
I think she is fairly satisfied with her talk with the President.
I think her enthusiasm for some of the others is not as
pronounced.
R:
Was Rogers in the talks?
K:
No, he saw her separately twice. I think the talks with the
President went fairly well. I believe she is leaving in a better
frame of mind than when she arrived, I think you should
keep the line we talked about.
R:
Thanks to your keeping me from going off the line I have been
getting a tremendous response up here.
K:
Well, you did not need any convincing on that. She refuses
to negotiate unless Egypt pulls back some of those missiles.
R:
Any progress on that.
K:
No, not even any significant attempt. If the King of Jordan
wins then events of the last week are a plus because it gave
us an opportunity for a show of strength which was badly needed
and the Soviets who have been insolent on violations have been very
gentle on this one since we started moving forces in there.
If
the King collapses, I find it hard to imagine how the Israelis
can be kept out but I am now talking about things that will evolve
over a period of weeks. I think for the immediate future it will
be an uneasy stalemate.
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