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got, right now, probably fifteen guys that are over at the Inauguration. And what are they handling? They're handling the things nobody else would want to handle: the parade, the seating, the building of those platforms out there, the platform here, the swearing-in ceremony. The things you get your hands dirty with. SY: Hm hmm. RW: But the office is going to have to be The White House has become, the people in the White House have become accustomed to knowing that if there's anything that needs to be disseminated, in regard to a presidential trip, they call the advance office. SY: Hm hmm. RW: And if we don't know, we' 11 find out. But most of the time we know. SY: One other thing, to skip around a little bit, but I wanted to ask you about again. You mentioned when you were doing the advance manual, you had the ' 68 campaign manual and you worked with Steve Bull and Dwight Chapin. Were there other people from previous administrations that you had contacted? RW: No. SY: Or, other people, like Murray Chotiner, who. a ? RW: I spent a lot of time talking to Murray. SY: Hm hmm. RW: But here, you see, here was the thing. Steve Bull had done a little bit of advancing, but not much. 58

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