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Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Digital Library Collections This is a PDF of a folder from our textual collections. Collection: Culvahouse, Arthur B.: Files Folder Title: Iran/Arms Transaction: ABC (Arthur B. Culvahouse) Notes (1) Box: CFOA 1132 To see more digitized collections visit: https://reaganlibrary.gov/archives/digital-library To see all Ronald Reagan Presidential Library inventories visit: https://reaganlibrary.gov/document-collection Contact a reference archivist at: [email protected] Citation Guidelines: https://reaganlibrary.gov/citing National Archives Catalogue: https://catalog.archives.gov/ WITHDRAWAL SHEET Ronald Reagan Library Collection Name CULVAHOUSE, ARTHUR .:FILES Withdrawer DLB 10/2/2014 File Folder IRAN/ARMS TRANSACTION: ABC (ARTHUR B. FOIA CULVAHOUSE) NOTES (1 OF 2) S643 Box Number CFOA 1132 SYSTEMATIC 188 ID Doc Type Document Description No of Doc Date Restrictions Pages 165885 NOTES HANDWRITTEN NOTES FROM 3/16/1987 1 3/16/1987 B1 WITH RR, HHB, ETC. 165886 NOTES HANDWRITTEN NOTES RE: TELEPHONE 6 3/18/1987 B1 CALLS WITH DUBERSTEIN, GARMENT The above documents were not referred for declassification review at time of processing Freedom of Information Act [5 U.S.C. 552(b)] B-1 National security classified information [(b)(1) of the FOIA] B-2 Release would disclose internal personnel rules and practices of an agency [(b)(2) of the FOIA] B-3 Release would violate a Federal statute [(b)(3) of the FOIA] B-4 Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential or financial information [(b)(4) of the FOIA] B-6 Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy [(b)(6) of the FOIA] B-7 Release would disclose information compiled for law enforcement purposes [(b)(7) of the FOIA] B-8 Release would disclose information concerning the regulation of financial institutions [(b)(8) of the FOIA] B-9 Release would disclose geological or geophysical information concerning wells [(b)(9) of the FOIA] C. 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Don Regar 2 week S [ Great came 100 Start one - 1st 2 week for before me Nega gan. 3 Pres have Furn cares to Town Bd {a wot get for to IC are Ca this from did Not Say WITHDRAWAL SHEET Ronald Reagan Library Collection Name Withdrawer CULVAHOUSE, ARTHUR B.:FILES DLB 10/2/2014 File Folder FOIA IRAN/ARMS TRANSACTION: ABC (ARTHUR B. S643 CULVAHOUSE) NOTES (1 OF 2) SYSTEMATIC Box Number CFOA 1132 188 ID Document Type No of Doc Date Restric- Document Description pages tions 165885 NOTES 1 3/16/1987 B1 HANDWRITTEN NOTES FROM 3/16/1987 WITH RR, HHB, ETC. The above documents were not referred for declassification review at time of processing Freedom of Information Act - [5 U.S.C. 552(b)] B-1 National security classified information [(b)(1) of the FOIA] B-2 Release would disclose internal personnel rules and practices of an agency [(b)(2) of the FOIA] B-3 Release would violate a Federal statute [(b)(3) of the FOIA] B-4 Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential or financial information [(b)(4) of the FOIA] B-6 Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy [(b)(6) of the FOIA] B-7 Release would disclose information compiled for law enforcement purposes [(b)(7) of the FOIA] B-8 Release would disclose information concerning the regulation of financial institutions [(b)(8) of the FOIA] B-9 Release would disclose geological or geophysical information concerning wells [(b)(9) of the FOIA] C. Closed in accordance with restrictions contained in donor's deed of gift. Indges - - March 16 - - - - Tele Wanen Rodenam - - David H. Stattan Alty G of Net Rhoder Schoem Tmal Judge Amr. N/A for Ct Briller legal simme Glo vacary are FIRST un Bruz Daniel cloun hear, go them mill Take Bouns take Seven states - Imm clarl //emit WITHDRAWAL SHEET Ronald Reagan Library Collection Name Withdrawer CULVAHOUSE, ARTHUR B.:FILES DLB 10/2/2014 File Folder FOIA IRAN/ARMS TRANSACTION: ABC (ARTHUR B. S643 CULVAHOUSE) NOTES (1 OF 2) SYSTEMATIC Box Number CFOA 1132 188 ID Document Type No of Doc Date Restric- Document Description pages tions 165886 NOTES 6 3/18/1987 B1 HANDWRITTEN NOTES RE: TELEPHONE CALLS WITH DUBERSTEIN, GARMENT The above documents were not referred for declassification review at time of processing Freedom of Information Act - [5 U.S.C. 552(b)] B-1 National security classified information [(b)(1) of the FOIA] B-2 Release would disclose internal personnel rules and practices of an agency [(b)(2) of the FOIA] B-3 Release would violate a Federal statute [(b)(3) of the FOIA] B-4 Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential or financial information [(b)(4) of the FOIA] B-6 Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy [(b)(6) of the FOIA] B-7 Release would disclose information compiled for law enforcement purposes [(b)(7) of the FOIA] B-8 Release would disclose information concerning the regulation of financial institutions [(b)(8) of the FOIA] B-9 Release would disclose geological or geophysical information concerning wells [(b)(9) of the FOIA] C. Closed in accordance with restrictions contained in donor's deed of gift. Fle I pum Telc control JOE Small-- 3/23 Require for that documents Boors 1,9an / 8 to Peter Wallison documents available w/o 3 days / festing then us-18. 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Wo cornel would allow CRO/OR SUP to appear 12 1 whenes w/o Count THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON APRIL 6, 1987 AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION WITH INDEPENDENT COUNSEL 1. 1/85 - 4/85, multiple checks received on at least three occasions. 2. Disclosure of above is indicative of WH cooperation. (a) extra personnel working to meet IC's deadlines (b) we agreed to IC's request not to disclose documents to lawyers for North, Poindexter & McFarlane (c) IC working with Biff Henley to design a way to search the WH & NSC systems 3. We believe it appropriate for WH to be present at IC's interviews of WH personnel. (a) President has instructed us to insure that all evidence is disclosed (b) we can facilitate that disclosure (as evidenced by #1 & #2 above) (c) we should be present when WH employees are providing information about their activities as WH employees * (d) we will not be present at interviews of targets or subjects (e) no conflict of interest: -- WH & President not targets or subjects -- our interest is same as IC's (f) it is only an appearance problem if IC makes it one (g) WH Counsel present at other IC investigatory interviews (h) pursuant to prior agreement w/FBI, WH should at least be notified in advance of all interviews (i) alternatives: 1. we advise all WH employees in advance of their options 2. some WH employees get private counsel -- cost nonreimbursable -- slows down IC 4. IC shown docs to Senate & House staffers. (a) IC gets docs which, in some cases, Senate & House may see, but not have, or which have been redacted -- as a result of Inter Agency Review Process concerning highly classified information. (b) If IC shows or provides docs to congressional staff, 1. 6(e)? 2. Inter Agency Review Process nullified 3. serious security concerns (c) Solution: 1. no document shown to congressional staff or members 2. all requests declined by IC and referred to ABC 5. Paul Stevens (a) Has recused himself (b) Has only helped schedule times for interviews (c) Has not interviewed anyone or conducted any investigation 6. Other non-issues: (a) FBI already has ability to (Kevin Fryslie) to check all Poindexter, McFarlane files to double check relevancy determination (b) FBI-IC communications seem lagging 7. Review of President's diaries (a) draft letter in process (b) treat Tower Board's notes of its interviews w/President and former President same way we are treating diaries, i.e., access only (c) any private handwritten notes of President remain private, access only 8. reclassification of documents per Guy Struve's letter of March 26, 1987 -- Defer for time being because time and effort involved in meeting IC's document production timetables File Inm/mmmm 1. Does the President want the Counsel to the President to be present when the President and Mrs. Reagan sign their income tax return? Roy Miller, the President's tax attorney, will be present at the April 13 signing at the ranch. Although the Counsel to the President apparently always has been in attendance, I profitably can work on BZ other matters back here in Washington. In addition, Roy Miller advises me that the President's tax return will be non-controversial; and, presumably, I can review a draft in advance to confirm that it is routine. Finally, Howard Baker or you could attend the signing ceremony. I am happy to attend if that is the President's desire, but want to confirm the appropriate priorities. 2. Advise the President that Howard Baker, Ken Duberstein ov and A. B. Culvahouse need to spend some time with him on Wednesday, April 8, to discuss and confirm the procedures for reviewing the President's diary notes. 3. Consider whether you wish to inquire of the President regarding the delivery of the Adnan Khashoggi letter to the President dated January 10, 1987. don't know Tal 5/5 - - LF6 Consummentee / tamilture extensive claimfics use of airports 12 we School $ / don't have him fashing as to this of that sent faily to identify me of Partigal in protery Nat'l Security limaters Sacond provide ancent a United when want to Nume 24 BRIEF: Arms Export Control Act. Jack Brooks order Ollie North to cooperate. I. ARMS EXPORT CONTROL ACT. Who told the President about $14m requirement? December 7, 1985 NSPG? Who briefed him? Exactly what was his understanding? Who told him? II. COVERT ACTION FINDING. Was he advised about delay of notification to Congress? Who advised him on legality of delay? III. BOLAND AMENDMENT. PIOB report in September of 1985. Did McFarlane discuss the Boland Amendment with him? Did Poindexter? Casey? Regan? IV. SAUDI FUNDING. May 1984? Did McFarlane tell him? V. Public statements that Contras running out of money in May 1984. Then they did not -- -- what was the President told about how they survived? VI. Shultz, Weinberger, Casey, Regan. PROPOSED TOPICS FOR DISCUSSION I. The Contra Diversion - You have been reported as saying that the President was not aware, and did not approve, of any diversion to the Contras of proceeds from the Iranian arms sales. Various news media reports state that sources close to Admiral John Poindexter say that he may testify that he discussed the diversion with the President on two occasions and/or that he had "broad authority" to justify his activities relating to the diversion. A. Admiral John Poindexter - 1. On what basis did you conclude that Admiral Poindexter did not inform the President, or at least tip him off, that a diversion might occur? a. Mr. Regan's conversation with Admiral Poindexter on November 25, 1986, the date of his resignation (see Regan Tower Board Tr. 57-58). b. The President's reaction on November 24, 1986, upon being informed by Attorney General Edwin Meese III of the possibility that a diversion had occurred (see Regan Tower Board Tr. 57: "horrified He [the President] couldn't believe it"). 2. Are there any other reasons? 3. Assume, merely as a matter of hypothesis, that Admiral Poindexter claims that he was just trying to protect the President when he suggested on the morning of November 25, 1986, that he had not told the President of the diversion. What objective, or subjective, factors would lead one to discount such a claim? 4. Are there any other examples of items coming to light where Admiral Poindexter had failed to keep the President fully advised? B. William Casey - Recent testimony suggesting a close relationship between Casey and North has spurred speculation that Casey may have encouraged a diversion and, as a close confidant of the President, informed him of it in advance. There is, of course, no evidence that any such thing occurred. For his part, DCI Casey testified before the House Foreign Affairs Committee that North had assured him in October 1986 that no money from the arms sales had been diverted to the Contras. What objective or subjective factors would lead one to discount speculation that the President was informed of the diversion by Mr. Casey? C. CIA Control of the Sale of Arms to Iran - The President has stated that he assumed the CIA managed the sale of arms to Iran after the January 1986 Iran Finding. Are you aware of any information on which the President based that assumption? Was information available to the President which should have led him to any other assumption? Are you aware of any discussion about how the arms sale was to be managed after the January 1986 Finding? D. LtCol Oliver North - In his Congressional testimony, General Secord stated that Oliver North had said to him several times that he had mentioned to the President that it was "very ironic" that "some of the Ayatollah's money was being used to support the Contras." What, if any, objective or subjective factors would lead one to discount the possibility of such a comment having been made by North in the presence of the President? II. Private Funding of the Contras - A. Conceding that there is no documentary evidence to prove it, Senator Inouye has stated: "I'm certain the President was aware that Oliver North was in the process of raising funds, not specifically for bullets or bandaids, but I'm certain he knew that." Asked about this, the President stated: "there was nothing in the nature of a solicitation by the Administration to my knowledge." Approximately one day later, the President said: "I don't know how that money was to be used and I have no knowledge that there was ever any solicitation by our people." 1. To what extent was the President made aware of North's private fundraising activities? 2. The President on several occasions spoke to groups of supporters of aid to the Freedom Fighters. His briefing papers for those meetings describe these groups as individuals who have purchased TV ads and engaged in other educational activities to support the President's policies. On other occasions, the President met with individuals such as Ellen Garwood and Barbara Newington. It has been alleged that Spitz Channell told private contributors that for a $300,000 donation they would receive an "off the record" meeting with the President. Did the President know that the groups or individuals with whom he was meeting were giving direct aid to the Contras? What did the President know about these "off the record" meetings? Were such meetings unusual? B. A recent issue of Time Magazine reported that "[a]fter setbacks in Congress [in 1984], Reagan instruct[ed] McFarlane to fund the Contras 'any way you can. McFarlane testified that the President wanted the democratic resistance held together, "body and soul." In a PROFS note dated May 2, 1986, from Poindexter to Don Fortier, he quoted the President as having said to him [in Bali on the way to Japan]: "I am really serious. If we can't move the Contra package before June 9, [1986,] I want to figure out a way to take action unilaterally to provide assistance." Poindexter then commented that the President "was taken with the examples of Presidential actions in the past without Congressional approval" and that "the President is ready to confront the Congress on the Constitutional question of who controls foreign policy." Two weeks later, at an NSPG meeting on May 16, 1986, dealing with proposed legislation for aid to the Contras, after being informed by Secretary Shultz of unsuccessful approaches to Third Countries for aid to the Contras in accordance with the FY 1986 intelligence authorization bill, the President stated: "What about the private groups who pay for ads for the Contras. Have they been contacted? Could they do more than ads?" According to the minutes, you responded: "We have contacts." 1. What, if any, Presidential action on this issue followed this May 16, 1986, meeting? What would have been your understanding of the President's instructions to McFarlane and Poindexter? C. By PROFS note dated May 16, 1986, North stated: "I have no idea what Don Regan does or does not know re my private U.S. operation, but the President obviously knows why he has been meeting with several select people to thank them for their 'support for Democracy' in CentAm." Poindexter responded: "Don Regan knows very little of your operation and that is just as well." Why would the President know more about North's operation than you? D. The Boland Amendments were an inconsistent patchwork of statutes that purported to limit the use of intelligence agencies in providing direct or indirect support for paramilitary or military operations in Nicaragua. Robert McFarlane testified that the President had a more liberal view of what was permitted under the Boland Amendments than did McFarlane. Were you ever present during discussions with the President concerning the limitations of the Boland Amendments? Did the President ever see or even hear about the PIOB opinion that the Boland Amendments did not apply to the NSC? Was any other legal advice ever sought on the President's behalf concerning the Boland Amendments' limitations? What is your understanding of what the President knew concerning the Boland Amendment? E. Third Country Solicitations - 1. Do you know of any discussion with the President about the reported Saudi contributions for the Contras in preparation for the February 1985 state visit by King Fahd? Do you have any reason to believe that, as the Washington Post reported, McFarlane went to Prince Bandar's residence in McLean, where King Fahd was staying, to discuss Contra aid during the King's visit? Do you recall anything the President said after the visit? Was the President advised of any effort to link Saudi aid to the Contras to favorable Administration treatment of the then pending Saudi arms package? 2. As noted above, the idea of soliciting Contra aid from Third Countries was discussed at a May 16, 1986, NSPG meeting. Other than with respect to Saudi Arabia, would the President have had reason to know at that time that other nations had made contributions? If so, how did he find out? 3. Did the President know of any discussions by anyone in the government (e.g., North, Gaston Sigur, McFarlane, Poindexter, Abrams) with representatives of any other foreign governments about making contributions to the Contras?