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Ronald Reagan Presidential Library Digital Library Collections This is a PDF of a folder from our textual collections. Collection: Roberts, John G.: Files Folder Title: JGR/Honegger Files Box: 27 To see more digitized collections visit: https://reaganlibrary.gov/archives/digital-library To see all Ronald Reagan Presidential Library inventories visit: https://reaganlibrary.gov/document-collection Contact a reference archivist at: [email protected] Citation Guidelines: https://reaganlibrary.gov/citing National Archives Catalogue: https://catalog.archives.gov/ Administrative THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON September 12, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS SUBJECT: Honegger Files Central Files has alerted us to the existence of a memorandum from Barbara Honegger to H.P. Goldfield, dated March 16, 1982, in which Honegger states, "When my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the files moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility to see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such documents have been returned to the White House. This undertaking was apparently considered necessary before Honegger was permitted to carry copies of White House files to the Justice Department. Although Honegger has resigned her post, thereby "completing" her "tenure" with the legal equity function, the files have not been returned nor has our office been so notified. I called over to the Justice Department (Ken Starr) to determine if the copies of White House files taken by Honegger are still in Honegger's office, and advised that any White House files identifiable as such should be returned to us. I have not yet heard back from Justice. Terry Good of Central Files advised that there was no way of ascertaining if what Justice returns to us - if anything - constitutes a complete set of what Honegger took with her. It will therefore probably be advisable to write Honegger to request her compliance with the terms of the agreement she signed (and remind her that she may not retain copies of White House files, even for use on her forthcoming book). We can revisit this question when we see what files were left behind at Justice. Attachment ID # 166779 CU CORRESPONDENCE WHITE TRACKING HOUSE WORKSHEET FG006-01 0 . OUTGOING H INTERNAL I INCOMING Date Correspondence Received (YY/MM/DD) / / Name of Correspondent: Barbasa Honegger MI Mail Report User Codes: (A) (B) (C) Subject: Memo to HP goldfield re: Honegger's White House Filer ROUTE TO: ACTION DISPOSITION Tracking Type Completion Action Date of Date Office/Agency (Staff Name) Code YY/MM/DD Response Code YY/MM/DD WHOIL ORIGINA DD 83,09,02 / / Referral Note: CUAT18 D 83,09,02 5 83,09.12 DDII Referral Note1 / / / / Referral Note: / / / / - Referral Note: / / / / I Referral Note: ACTION CODES: DISPOSITION CODES: A . Appropriate Action I - Info Copy Only/No Action Necessary A Answered C Completed C . Comment/Recommendation R - * Direct Reply w/Copy B . Non-Special Referral S Suspended D Draft Response S For Signature F Furnish Fact Sheet X Interim Reply to be used as Enclosure FOR OUTGOING CORRESPONDENCE: Type of Response = Initials of Signer Code = "A" Completion Date = Date of Outgoing Comments: Keep this worksheet attached to the original incoming letter. Send all routing updates to Central Reference (Room 75, OEOB). Always return completed correspondence record to Central Files. Refer questions about the correspondence tracking system to Central Reference, ext. 2590. 5/81 THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON March 16, 1982 FOR: H.P. GOLDFIELD FROM: BARBARA HONEGGER Rd 166779 Cu SUBJECT: Continued Use of Files Relating to my Continued Function, While at Justice, as Chairman of the Cabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women Pursuant to your request, this memorandum confirms my agreement to follow the guidelines set forth by the Counsel's Office, as communicated in our telephone conversation, regarding continued use of files relating to my function as Chairman of the Cabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women while at the Department of Justice. The files referred to are those generated as a result of my function over this past year as policy analyst and resource contact at the White House on issues as they affect women and as Chairman of the Working Group on Legal Equity for Women. Though I will be physically moving to Justice, I will be con- tinuing with the same function begun here at the White House and so will require continued access to information accumulated over this past year relating to that function. I agree to make copies of all original file documents which are necessary for me to continue my work while at Justice, leaving the originals with Terry Good. All the files moved to Justice will be kept segregated from other files, and not co-mingled with files created while at Justice, or files generated from the files moved to Justice. Justice has agreed to provide lockable filing cabinets for this purpose. Per your suggestion, approval of the agreement contained in this memorandum, below, will be sufficient, together with Mr. Good's receipt of originals in the files, to allow me to move the docu- ments to the locked filing cabinet at the Department of Justice. Date THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON September 21, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS SUBJECT: Honegger Files I have now received from the Justice Department a box of White House files left behind by Barbara Honegger. Judy Hammerschmidt, a special assistant in the Civil Rights Division who gathered and returned the files, is confident that Honegger removed the bulk of the White House files from her Justice Department office. The small amount of White House files returned to us by Hammerschmidt supports this supposition. Accordingly, I recommend sending the attached letter to Honegger. Honegger may choose to garner publicity over the files question, but I believe our position is unassailable, particularly since we are simply asking Honegger to comply with a memorandum she signed. Perhaps you should raise the matter with Deaver, both in his capacity as head of the working group on women and in his unenviable role of Administration liaison with Honegger. Attachment THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON September 21, 1983 Dear Ms. Honegger: As you know, individuals employed at the White House are not permitted to take originals or copies of documents in White House files with them when they terminate their employment. When you left the White House on March 16, 1982, you executed an agreement concerning White House files (copy attached). Under this agreement you were permitted to take copies of certain documents from White House files with you to the Department of Justice on the express conditions that the integrity of the files be maintained and that they be returned intact by you to the White House upon completion of your work at the Department of Justice. As you stated in your memorandum, "When my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the files moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility to see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such documents have been returned to the White House.' Although your tenure with the legal equity function has been complete for some time, the files in question have not yet been returned to Terry Good. If the files in question were left at the Department of Justice, please advise us accordingly. If they are in your personal possession, please discharge immediately the responsibility you undertook to return them to the White House. I would remind you that, consistent with White House policy and the agreement you signed, you may not retain copies of White House files for any purpose. If you have any questions concerning this matter, please contact this office immediately. We look forward to your prompt compliance with the memorandum you signed. Sincerely, Fred F. Fielding Counsel to the President Ms. Barbara Honegger 4635 North 15th Street Arlington, VA 22207 CC: Terry Good THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON September 12, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS DER SUBJECT: Honegger Files Central Files has alerted us to the existence of a memorandum from Barbara Honegger to H.P. Goldfield, dated March 16, 1982, in which Honegger states, "When my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the files moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility to see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such documents have been returned to the White House. This undertaking was apparently considered necessary before Honegger was permitted to carry copies of White House files to the Justice Department. Although Honegger has resigned her post, thereby "completing" her "tenure" with the legal equity function, the files have not been returned nor has our office been so notified. I called over to the Justice Department (Ken Starr) to determine if the copies of White House files taken by Honegger are still in Honegger's office, and advised that any White House files identifiable as such should be returned to us. I have not yet heard back from Justice. Terry Good of Central Files advised that there was no way of ascertaining if what Justice returns to us - if anything - constitutes a complete set of what Honegger took with her. It will therefore probably be advisable to write Honegger to request her compliance with the terms of the agreement she signed (and remind her that she may not retain copies of White House files, even for use on her forthcoming book). We can revisit this question when we see what files were left behind at Justice. / ok Attachment SEP 1 3 1983 THE WHITE HOUSE John WASHINGTON September 21, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS SUBJECT: Honegger Files I have now received from the Justice Department a box of White House files left behind by Barbara Honegger. Judy Hammerschmidt, a special assistant in the Civil Rights Division who gathered and returned the files, is confident that Honegger removed the bulk of the White House files from her Justice Department office. The small amount of White House files returned to us by Hammerschmidt supports this supposition. Accordingly, I recommend sending the attached letter to Honegger. Honegger may choose to garner publicity over the files question, but I believe our position is unassailable, particularly since we are simply asking Honegger to comply with a memorandum she signed. Perhaps you should raise the matter with Deaver, both in his 9'1' capacity as head of the working group on women and in his unenviable role of Administration liaison with Attachment Soften Honegger. JGR letter to service sign One they 3 sevied THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON Date 10.15.83 Suspense Date MEMORANDUM FOR: John FROM: DIANNA G. HOLLAND ACTION Approved Please handle/review, if there's anything to as For your information For your recommendation For the files Please see me Please prepare response for & signature As we discussed Return to me for filing COMMENT THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 11, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS are SUBJECT: Honegger Files In response to my letter concerning her files (copy attached), Miss Honegger has written to advise me that all the files were left at the Department of Justice. We have obtained those White House files that were left at Justice, but have no way of verifying Miss Honegger's assertion that those files are all that she took from the White House. Under the circumstances, I recommend turning the files we have obtained over to Central Files and closing the matter. Attachment THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON September 26, 1983 Dear Ms. Honegger: As you know, individuals employed at the White House are not permitted to take originals or copies of documents in White House files with them when they terminate their employment. When you left the White House on March 16, 1982, you executed an agreement concerning White House files (copy attached). Under this agreement you were permitted to take copies of certain documents from White House files with you to the Department of Justice on the express conditions that the integrity of the files be maintained and that they be returned intact by you to the White House upon completion of your work at the Department of Justice. As you stated in your memorandum, "When my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the files moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility to see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such documents have been returned to the White House." If the files in question were left at the Department of Justice, please advise us accordingly. If they are in your personal possession, we would appreciate their prompt return to the White House, pursuant to your March 16, 1982, memorandum. I would remind you that, consistent with White House policy and the memorandum you signed, you may not retain copies of White House files for any purpose. If you have any questions concerning this matter, please feel free to contact this office. Sincerely, John G. Roberts Associate Counsel to the President Ms. Barbara Honegger 4635 North 15th Street Arlington, VA 22207 CC: Terry Good Barbara Honegger 4635 N. 15th Street Arlington, VA 22207 4 October 1983 Mr. John Roberts The White House Washington, D.C. 20500 Dear Mr. Roberts: Thank you for your letter and attachments of 3 October, which I received this evening. I appreciate your writing regard- ing the files on the Working Group on Legal Equity for Women. It is clear that the Department of Justice has not yet contacted the White House regarding their return. The few files which relate to this project are all still at the Department of Justice. Upon leaving on Saturday, August 20, 1983, I wrote a detailed memoranda to Stewart Oneglia itemizing where all the files were. The files on the Working Group are clearly marked and presuming they have not since been moved-- on the 20th of August were in the bottom file drawer of the only filing cabinet in my office. The only other White House files-- though they are really, as best as I can recall public domain material are in a cardboard box which I left underneath the only table in my office in the Justice Department The only material relevant to my agreement, however, are in the well-marked file folders in the bottom file drawer. I appreciate your appending the copy of the agreement regarding these files. I have been trying to find my copy of it since resigning without success. There is only one part of the agreement which, with great frustration, I was unable to fulfill though by no means without trying. I tried for months to obtain a locked filing cabinet without success from the Department of Justice. Satisfied that the building was well guarded, however, I finally accepted the only cabinet that was available. The documents to be retunned are in the bottom drawer. That is in (or was in) Rm 832, 320 First St, N.W., Washington, D.C. Stewart Oneglia, Chief of the Division (Coordination and Review Section) should be easily able to help you locate them for return. Thank you again for reminding me of this commitment. Do let me know if there is anything else I can do to assist you. Sincerely, Barbara Hondeger THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 3, 1983 Dear Ms. Honegger: As you know, individuals employed at the White House are not permitted to take originals or copies of documents in White House files with them when they terminate their employment. When you left the White House on March 16, 1982, you executed an agreement concerning White House files (copy attached). Under this agreement you were permitted to take copies of certain documents from White House files with you to the Department of Justice on the express conditions that the integrity of the files be maintained and that they be returned intact by you to the White House upon completion of your work at the Department of Justice. As you stated in your memorandum, "When my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the files moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility to see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such documents have been returned to the White House." If the files in question were left at the Department of Justice, please advise us accordingly. If they are in your personal possession, we would appreciate their prompt return to the White House, pursuant to your March 16, 1982, memorandum. I would remind you that, consistent with White House policy and the memorandum you signed, you may not retain copies of White House files for any purpose. If you have any questions concerning this matter, please feel free to contact this office. Sincerely, John G. Roberts Associate Counsel to the President Ms. Barbara Honegger 4635 North 15th Street Arlington, VA 22207 CC: Terry Good THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON March 16, 1982 FOR: H.P. GOLDFIELD FROM: BARBARA HONEGGER Boll SUBJECT: Continued Use of Files Relating to my Continued Function, While at Justice, as Chairman of the Cabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women Pursuant to your request, this memorandum confirms my agreement to follow the guidelines set forth by the Counsel's Office, as communicated in our telephone conversation, regarding continued use of files relating to my function as Chairman of the Cabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women while at the Department of Justice. The files referred to are those generated as a result of my function over this past year as policy analyst and resource contact at the White House on issues as they affect women and as Chairman of the Working Group on Legal Equity for Women. Though I will be physically moving to Justice, I will be con- tinuing with the same function begun here at the White House and so will require continued access to information accumulated over this past year relating to that function. I agree to make copies of all original file documents which are necessary for me to continue my work while at Justice, leaving the originals with Terry Good. All the files moved to Justice' will be kept segregated from other files, and not co-mingled with files created while at Justice, or files generated from the files moved to Justice. Justice has agreed to provide lockable filing cabinets for this purpose. When my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the files moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility to see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such documents have been returned to the White House. Per your suggestion, approval of the agreement contained in this memorandum, below, will be sufficient, together with Mr. Good's receipt of originals in the files, to allow me to move the docu- ments to the locked filing cabinet at the Department of Justice. Date MEMORANDUM THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON STATEMENT OF DEPOSIT OF PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS I have turned over all forsinal official records and other materials that were in my custody to the Office of Records Management or my office. I have not retained copies of any of these records See a attached memo I undertanding per President Counsel dated 3-16-82 3-16-82 Date Mary Ollice A Pitice Signature HONEGGER Office Senedopment. Checked out by JW/Food THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 24, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS are SUBJECT: Honegger Files The Honegger Files saga continues. When Honegger left the White House she signed a memorandum to H.P. Goldfield, pursuant to which she was permitted to take copies of White House documents with her to the Justice Department, on the conditions that they be maintained separate from any Justice files and eventually returned to the White House. When reminded of her commitment to return the files Honegger reported that they had been left behind at Justice. Justice returned a small box of files to us, and I delivered those to Terry Good at Central Files. Good compared the inventory of files turned in by Honegger when she left the White House with the files returned by the Justice Department. Pursuant to the agreement the latter should have been a subset of the former, as Honegger supposedly took to Justice duplicates of files she turned in. In fact, there is no overlap at all. This probably means that Honegger took originals and not duplicates with her to Justice. Since no inventory was taken of the files Honegger took to Justice, there is also no way of knowing if all of them have been returned. We should discuss. Attachment MEMORANDUM THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 21, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR JOHN ROBERTS FROM TERRY GOOD Jh RE: BARBARA HONEGGER FILES On Wednesday, I received the carton of Barbara Honegger files along with your memo. Subsequently, I reread her memo of understanding to H. P. Goldfield and her Statement of Deposit. In both documents she stated that she left originals with the White House and took only copies. I believe that you will find it interesting to compare the inventory of the files that she left here with that of the files returned from the Department of Justice. I was expecting a perfect match. In fact, they don't match at all. Further, I was expecting the returned files to be duplicates. Upon examination, there are many originals. Which leads me to conclude that she (1) didn't understand the distinction between the words "original" and "duplicate" and/or (2) suffered a lapse of memory after sending the memo to H. P. and signing the Statement of Deposit in my presence or Obviously, neither H. P. nor I examined the files that she took with her to Justice. While I can't speak for H. P., it did not occur to me - nor, I suspect, to him - that such an examination was necessary in light of her signatures on the two documents. Actually, such an undertaking is totally at variance with the intent of the check-out procedure in our office. We see our role as counselor's to assist the departing staffer in avoiding what would be, in its baldest form, a criminal act - the removal of government records, whether they be originals or duplicates. Interestingly, most staffers don't know this and, as I recall, neither did Barbara. When she explained that she needed some of the files in her new capacity at Justice, I referred her, as we routinely do when staffers have questions about this law, to the Counsel's Office, mentioning that H. P. had some expertise in this area. For her to have consulted with H. P., signed both documents and then "deviated" from her promises leaves me totally at a loss for a rational explanation. At this point, I would have to say that I would be very uncomfortable in verifying that we received everything that Barbara took with her. In fact, I can't. Any further pursuit of this matter is, I suppose, up to the discretion of the Counsel's Office. I have attached copies of relevant documents. OCT 21 1983 THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 19, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR TERRY W. GOOD ASSISTANT DIRECTOR RECORDS MANAGEMENT FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS 270R ASSOCIATE COUNSEL TO THE PRESIDENT SUBJECT: Honegger Files We have received from the Department of Justice those White House files left at Justice by Barbara Honegger. I am herewith forwarding those files to you for appropriate handling and disposition. Many thanks. INVENTORY OF THE FILES OF BARBARA HONEGGER RETURNED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HEALTH/HEALTH CARE NUCLEAR ENERGY/PROLIFERATION (empty folder) SCIENCE POLICY/ADMINISTRATION URBAN POLICY ENTERPRISE ZONES PROPOSAL ANTITRUST LEGISLATION AND PROPOSED LEGISLATION PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON HOUSING (unlabelled folder) TECHNOLOGY POLICY, INFO. ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY FOREIGN POLICY WORKING GROUP ON LEGAL AND REGULATORY EQUITY, CABCNCL/HRs WORKING GROUP ON LEGAL EQUITY FOR WOMEN (of Cab Council on Legal Policy (2/82-7/82) NORM HUGHES APPLICATION FOR SCIENCE ADVISOR TASK FORCE ON SEX DISCRIMINATION Justice Exec Order 12336 DEVELOPMENT/MEETINGS, etc. EXECUTIVE ORDER 12336 and Development of Order 063893 1110 FG006-01 March 16, 1982 HE 000 IT086 The following is a folder inventory of files transferred to the Office of Records Management by Barbara Honegger of the PL Office of Policy Development. WE 003 EMERGENCY HEALTH CARE HE UNITED NATIONS QUESTIONNAIRE ON WOMEN REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE Hu016 HONEGGER TO ANDERSON ON RISKS OF PREGNANCY FG010-02 MILITARY MANPOWER TASK FORCE EMS - EMRGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES 2 Also attached is a copy of an understanding between Barbara Honegger and H. P. Goldfield of the Counsel's Office regarding her use of copies of selected files in her capacity as Chairman of the Cabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women. Enclosures filed in Oversize Attachments # 3398 THE WHITE HOUSE John WASHINGTON September 21, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS god SUBJECT: Honegger Files I have now received from the Justice Department a box of White House files left behind by Barbara Honegger. Judy Hammerschmidt, a special assistant in the Civil Rights Division who gathered and returned the files, is confident that Honegger removed the bulk of the White House files from her Justice Department office. The small amount of White House files returned to us by Hammerschmidt supports this supposition. Accordingly, I recommend sending the attached letter to Honegger. Honegger may choose to garner publicity over the files question, but I believe our position is unassailable, particularly since we are simply asking Honegger to comply with a memorandum she signed. Perhaps you should raise the matter with Deaver, both in his capacity as head of the working group on women and in his unenviable role of Administration liaison with Attachment Softing Honegger. JGR letter to slifeth sign One they 3 Marrid John discount wl so MKD, wl the THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 11, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS 220 SUBJECT: Honegger Files In response to my letter concerning her files (copy attached), Miss Honegger has written to advise me that all the files were left at the Department of Justice. We have obtained those White House files that were left at Justice, but have no way of verifying Miss Honegger's assertion that those files are all that she took from the White House. Under the circumstances, I recommend turning the files we have obtained over to Central Files and closing the matter. Attachment THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON November 2, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS are SUBJECT: Honegger Files At the staff meeting on Tuesday, November 1, Fred F. Fielding agreed that we should not pursue this matter further at this time. Should any questions arise concerning Honegger's subsequent use of White House files, we can revisit these issues at that time. THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 24, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS SUBJECT: Honegger Files The Honegger Files saga continues. When Honegger left the White House she signed a memorandum to H.P. Goldfield, pursuant to which she was permitted to take copies of White House documents with her to the Justice Department, on the conditions that they be maintained separate from any Justice files and eventually returned to the White House. When reminded of her commitment to return the files Honegger reported that they had been left behind at Justice. Justice returned a small box of files to us, and I delivered those to Terry Good at Central Files. Good compared the inventory of files turned in by Honegger when she left the White House with the files returned by the Justice Department. Pursuant to the agreement the latter should have been a subset of the former, as Honegger supposedly took to Justice duplicates of files she turned in. In fact, there is no overlap at all. This probably means that Honegger took originals and not duplicates with her to Justice. Since no inventory was taken of the files Honegger took to Justice, there is also no way of knowing if all of them have been returned. We should discuss. Attachment Cbr 10/24 MEMORANDUM THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 21,1983 MEMORANDUM FOR JOHN ROBERTS FROM TERRY GOOD Hg RE: BARBARA HONEGGER FILES On Wednesday, I received the carton of Barbara Honegger files along with your memo. Subsequently, I reread her memo of understanding to H. P. Goldfield and her Statement of Deposit. In both documents she stated that she left originals with the White House and took only copies. I believe that you will find it interesting to compare the inventory of the files that she left here with that of the files returned from the Department of Justice. I was expecting a perfect match. In fact, they don't match at all. Further, I was expecting the returned files to be duplicates. Upon examination, there are many originals. Which leads me to conclude that she (1) didn't understand the distinction between the words "original" and "duplicate" and/or (2) suffered a lapse of memory after sending the memo to H. P. and signing the Statement of Deposit in my presence or Obviously, neither H. P. nor I examined the files that she took with her to Justice. While I can't speak for H. P., it did not occur to me - nor, I suspect, to him - that such an examination was necessary in light of her signatures on the two documents. Actually, such an undertaking is totally at variance with the intent of the check-out procedure in our office. We see our role as counselor's to assist the departing staffer in avoiding what would be, in its baldest form, a criminal act - the removal of government records, whether they be originals or duplicates. Interestingly, most staffers don't know this and, as I recall, neither did Barbara. When she explained that she needed some of the files in her new capacity at Justice, I referred her, as we routinely do when staffers have questions about this law, to the Counsel's Office, mentioning that H. P. had some expertise in this area. For her to have consulted with H. P., signed both documents and then "deviated" from her promises leaves me totally at a loss for a rational explanation. At this point, I would have to say that I would be very uncomfortable in verifying that we received everything that Barbara took with her. In fact, I can't. Any further pursuit of this matter is, I suppose, up to the discretion of the Counsel's Office. I have attached copies of relevant documents. OCT 21 1983 THE WHITE HOUSE your WASHINGTON September 21, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS JR SUBJECT: Honegger Files I have now received from the Justice Department a box of White House files left behind by Barbara Honegger. Judy Hammerschmidt, a special assistant in the Civil Rights Division who gathered and returned the files, is confident that Honegger removed the bulk of the White House files from her Justice Department office. The small amount of White House files returned to us by Hammerschmidt supports this supposition. Accordingly, I recommend sending the attached letter to Honegger. Honegger may choose to garner publicity over the files question, but I believe our position is unassailable, particularly since we are simply asking Honegger to comply with a memorandum she signed. Perhaps you should raise the matter with Deaver, both in his capacity as head of the working group on women and in his unenviable role of Administration liaison with Attachment we Soften Honegger. JGR letter to sign One theys servid John wl so MICD wl th THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON September 12, 1983 MEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING FROM: JOHN G. ROBERTS Drd SUBJECT: Honegger Files Central Files has alerted us to the existence of a memorandum from Barbara Honegger to H.P. Goldfield, dated March 16, 1982, in which Honegger states, "When my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the files moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility to see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such documents have been returned to the White House. This undertaking was apparently considered necessary before Honegger was permitted to carry copies of White House files to the Justice Department. Although Honegger has resigned her post, thereby "completing" her "tenure" with the legal equity function, the files have not been returned nor has our office been so notified. I called over to the Justice Department (Ken Starr) to determine if the copies of White House files taken by Honegger are still in Honegger's office, and advised that any White House files identifiable as such should be returned to us. I have not yet heard back from Justice. Terry Good of Central Files advised that there was no way of ascertaining if what Justice returns to us - if anything - constitutes a complete set of what Honegger took with her. It will therefore probably be advisable to write Honegger to request her compliance with the terms of the agreement she signed (and remind her that she may not retain copies of White House files, even for use on her forthcoming book). We can revisit this question when we see what files were left behind at Justice. /rk Attachment SEP 13 1983 ID #. 166779 CU WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENCE TRACKING WORKSHEET FG006-01 O OUTGOING H INTERNAL I . INCOMING Date Correspondence Received (YY/MM/DD) / / Name of Correspondent: Barbasa Honegger MI Mail Report User Codes: (A) (B) (C) Subject: Memo to HP goldfield re Honegger 5 White House Filer ROUTE TO: ACTION DISPOSITION Tracking Type Completion Action Date of Date Office/Agency (Staff Name) Code YY/MM/DD Response Code YY/MM/DD WHON ORIGINA DD 83,09,02 / / Referral Note: CNAT18 D 03/09/02 DDI 5 23109813 Referral Notes * / / / / - Referral Note: / / / / I Referral Note: / / / / I Referral Note: ACTION CODES: DISPOSITION CODES: A Appropriate Action I Info Copy Only/No Action Necessary A Answered C Completed C - Comment/Recommendation R - Direct Reply w/Copy B . Non-Special Referral S Suspended D Draft Response S - For Signature F Furnish Fact Sheet X Interim Reply to be used as Enclosure FOR OUTGOING CORRESPONDENCE Type of Response = Initials of Signer Code = "A" Completion Date = Date of Outgoing Comments: Keep this worksheet attached to the original incoming letter. Send all routing updates to Central Reference (Room 75, OEOB). Always return completed correspondence record to Central Files. Refer questions about the correspondence tracking system to Central Reference, ext. 2590. 5/81 THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON March 16, 1982 JGR FOR: H.P. GOLDFIELD FROM: BARBARA HONEGGER Boll 166779 CIC SUBJECT: Continued Use of Files Relating to my Continued Function, While at Justice, as Chairman of the Cabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women Pursuant to your request, this memorandum confirms my agreement to follow the guidelines set forth by the Counsel's Office, as communicated in our telephone conversation, regarding continued use of files relating to my function as Chairman of the Cabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women while at the Department of Justice. The files referred to are those generated as a result of my function over this past year as policy analyst and resource contact at the White House on issues as they affect women and as Chairman of the Working Group on Legal Equity for Women. Though I will be physically moving to Justice, I will be con- tinuing with the same function begun here at the White House and so will require continued access to information accumulated over this past year relating to that function. I agree to make copies of all original file documents which are necessary for me to continue my work while at Justice, leaving the originals with Terry Good. All the files moved to Justice will be kept segregated from other files, and not co-mingled with files created while at Justice, or files generated from the files moved to Justice. Justice has agreed to provide lockable filing cabinets for this purpose. When my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the files moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility to see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such documents have been returned to the White House. Per your suggestion, approval of the agreement contained in this memorandum, below, will be sufficient, together with Mr. Good's receipt of originals in the files, to allow me to move the docu- ments to the locked filing cabinet at the Department of Justice. Date ¡EMORANDUM THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON STATEMENT OF DEPOSIT OF PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS I have turned over all prismal official records and other materials that were in my custody to the Office of Records Management or my office. I have not retained copies of any of these records See a attached memo J understanding per President Counsel dated 3-16-82 3-16-82 Date Mary Signature HONEGGER Office A Pitice Office Benedogment Checked out by JW/Yood

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    "ocrText": "Ronald Reagan Presidential Library\nDigital Library Collections\nThis is a PDF of a folder from our textual collections.\nCollection: Roberts, John G.: Files\nFolder Title: JGR/Honegger Files\nBox: 27\nTo see more digitized collections visit:\nhttps://reaganlibrary.gov/archives/digital-library\nTo see all Ronald Reagan Presidential Library inventories visit:\nhttps://reaganlibrary.gov/document-collection\nContact a reference archivist at: [email protected]\nCitation Guidelines: https://reaganlibrary.gov/citing\nNational Archives Catalogue: https://catalog.archives.gov/\nAdministrative\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 12, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nCentral Files has alerted us to the existence of a\nmemorandum from Barbara Honegger to H.P. Goldfield, dated\nMarch 16, 1982, in which Honegger states, \"When my tenure\nwith the legal equity function is complete, the files moved\nfrom the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry\nGood, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility\nto see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in\nwriting when such documents have been returned to the White\nHouse. This undertaking was apparently considered\nnecessary before Honegger was permitted to carry copies of\nWhite House files to the Justice Department. Although\nHonegger has resigned her post, thereby \"completing\" her\n\"tenure\" with the legal equity function, the files have not\nbeen returned nor has our office been so notified.\nI called over to the Justice Department (Ken Starr) to\ndetermine if the copies of White House files taken by\nHonegger are still in Honegger's office, and advised that\nany White House files identifiable as such should be\nreturned to us. I have not yet heard back from Justice.\nTerry Good of Central Files advised that there was no way of\nascertaining if what Justice returns to us - if anything -\nconstitutes a complete set of what Honegger took with her.\nIt will therefore probably be advisable to write Honegger to\nrequest her compliance with the terms of the agreement she\nsigned (and remind her that she may not retain copies of\nWhite House files, even for use on her forthcoming book).\nWe can revisit this question when we see what files were\nleft behind at Justice.\nAttachment\nID # 166779\nCU\nCORRESPONDENCE WHITE TRACKING HOUSE WORKSHEET FG006-01\n0 . OUTGOING\nH INTERNAL\nI INCOMING\nDate Correspondence\nReceived (YY/MM/DD)\n/\n/\nName of Correspondent: Barbasa Honegger\nMI Mail Report\nUser Codes: (A)\n(B)\n(C)\nSubject: Memo to HP goldfield re: Honegger's White\nHouse Filer\nROUTE TO:\nACTION\nDISPOSITION\nTracking\nType\nCompletion\nAction\nDate\nof\nDate\nOffice/Agency\n(Staff Name)\nCode\nYY/MM/DD\nResponse\nCode\nYY/MM/DD\nWHOIL\nORIGINA DD 83,09,02\n/\n/\nReferral Note:\nCUAT18\nD 83,09,02\n5 83,09.12\nDDII\nReferral Note1\n/\n/\n/\n/\nReferral Note:\n/\n/\n/\n/\n-\nReferral Note:\n/ /\n/\n/\nI\nReferral Note:\nACTION CODES:\nDISPOSITION CODES:\nA . Appropriate Action\nI - Info Copy Only/No Action Necessary\nA Answered\nC Completed\nC . Comment/Recommendation\nR - * Direct Reply w/Copy\nB . Non-Special Referral\nS Suspended\nD Draft Response\nS For Signature\nF Furnish Fact Sheet\nX Interim Reply\nto be used as Enclosure\nFOR OUTGOING CORRESPONDENCE:\nType of Response = Initials of Signer\nCode = \"A\"\nCompletion Date = Date of Outgoing\nComments:\nKeep this worksheet attached to the original incoming letter.\nSend all routing updates to Central Reference (Room 75, OEOB).\nAlways return completed correspondence record to Central Files.\nRefer questions about the correspondence tracking system to Central Reference, ext. 2590.\n5/81\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nMarch 16, 1982\nFOR:\nH.P. GOLDFIELD\nFROM:\nBARBARA HONEGGER\nRd\n166779 Cu\nSUBJECT:\nContinued Use of Files Relating to my Continued\nFunction, While at Justice, as Chairman of the\nCabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group\non Legal Equity for Women\nPursuant to your request, this memorandum confirms my agreement\nto follow the guidelines set forth by the Counsel's Office, as\ncommunicated in our telephone conversation, regarding continued\nuse of files relating to my function as Chairman of the Cabinet\nCouncil on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women\nwhile at the Department of Justice.\nThe files referred to are those generated as a result of my\nfunction over this past year as policy analyst and resource\ncontact at the White House on issues as they affect women and\nas Chairman of the Working Group on Legal Equity for Women.\nThough I will be physically moving to Justice, I will be con-\ntinuing with the same function begun here at the White House\nand so will require continued access to information accumulated\nover this past year relating to that function.\nI agree to make copies of all original file documents which are\nnecessary for me to continue my work while at Justice, leaving\nthe originals with Terry Good. All the files moved to Justice\nwill be kept segregated from other files, and not co-mingled\nwith files created while at Justice, or files generated from\nthe files moved to Justice. Justice has agreed to provide\nlockable filing cabinets for this purpose.\nPer your suggestion, approval of the agreement contained in this\nmemorandum, below, will be sufficient, together with Mr. Good's\nreceipt of originals in the files, to allow me to move the docu-\nments to the locked filing cabinet at the Department of Justice.\nDate\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 21, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nI have now received from the Justice Department a box of\nWhite House files left behind by Barbara Honegger. Judy\nHammerschmidt, a special assistant in the Civil Rights\nDivision who gathered and returned the files, is confident\nthat Honegger removed the bulk of the White House files from\nher Justice Department office. The small amount of White\nHouse files returned to us by Hammerschmidt supports this\nsupposition. Accordingly, I recommend sending the attached\nletter to Honegger. Honegger may choose to garner publicity\nover the files question, but I believe our position is\nunassailable, particularly since we are simply asking\nHonegger to comply with a memorandum she signed. Perhaps\nyou should raise the matter with Deaver, both in his\ncapacity as head of the working group on women and in his\nunenviable role of Administration liaison with Honegger.\nAttachment\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 21, 1983\nDear Ms. Honegger:\nAs you know, individuals employed at the White House are not\npermitted to take originals or copies of documents in White\nHouse files with them when they terminate their employment.\nWhen you left the White House on March 16, 1982, you\nexecuted an agreement concerning White House files (copy\nattached). Under this agreement you were permitted to take\ncopies of certain documents from White House files with you\nto the Department of Justice on the express conditions that\nthe integrity of the files be maintained and that they be\nreturned intact by you to the White House upon completion of\nyour work at the Department of Justice. As you stated in\nyour memorandum, \"When my tenure with the legal equity\nfunction is complete, the files moved from the White House\nto Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor,\nand I will take full responsibility to see that that is\ndone. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such\ndocuments have been returned to the White House.'\nAlthough your tenure with the legal equity function has been\ncomplete for some time, the files in question have not yet\nbeen returned to Terry Good. If the files in question were\nleft at the Department of Justice, please advise us\naccordingly. If they are in your personal possession,\nplease discharge immediately the responsibility you\nundertook to return them to the White House. I would remind\nyou that, consistent with White House policy and the\nagreement you signed, you may not retain copies of White\nHouse files for any purpose.\nIf you have any questions concerning this matter, please\ncontact this office immediately. We look forward to your\nprompt compliance with the memorandum you signed.\nSincerely,\nFred F. Fielding\nCounsel to the President\nMs. Barbara Honegger\n4635 North 15th Street\nArlington, VA 22207\nCC: Terry Good\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 12, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nDER\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nCentral Files has alerted us to the existence of a\nmemorandum from Barbara Honegger to H.P. Goldfield, dated\nMarch 16, 1982, in which Honegger states, \"When my tenure\nwith the legal equity function is complete, the files moved\nfrom the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry\nGood, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility\nto see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in\nwriting when such documents have been returned to the White\nHouse. This undertaking was apparently considered\nnecessary before Honegger was permitted to carry copies of\nWhite House files to the Justice Department. Although\nHonegger has resigned her post, thereby \"completing\" her\n\"tenure\" with the legal equity function, the files have not\nbeen returned nor has our office been so notified.\nI called over to the Justice Department (Ken Starr) to\ndetermine if the copies of White House files taken by\nHonegger are still in Honegger's office, and advised that\nany White House files identifiable as such should be\nreturned to us. I have not yet heard back from Justice.\nTerry Good of Central Files advised that there was no way of\nascertaining if what Justice returns to us - if anything -\nconstitutes a complete set of what Honegger took with her.\nIt will therefore probably be advisable to write Honegger to\nrequest her compliance with the terms of the agreement she\nsigned (and remind her that she may not retain copies of\nWhite House files, even for use on her forthcoming book).\nWe can revisit this question when we see what files were\nleft behind at Justice.\n/ ok\nAttachment\nSEP 1 3 1983\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nJohn\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 21, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nI have now received from the Justice Department a box of\nWhite House files left behind by Barbara Honegger. Judy\nHammerschmidt, a special assistant in the Civil Rights\nDivision who gathered and returned the files, is confident\nthat Honegger removed the bulk of the White House files from\nher Justice Department office. The small amount of White\nHouse files returned to us by Hammerschmidt supports this\nsupposition. Accordingly, I recommend sending the attached\nletter to Honegger. Honegger may choose to garner publicity\nover the files question, but I believe our position is\nunassailable, particularly since we are simply asking\nHonegger to comply with a memorandum she signed. Perhaps\nyou should raise the matter with Deaver, both in his\n9'1'\ncapacity as head of the working group on women and in his\nunenviable role of Administration liaison with\nAttachment\nSoften Honegger. JGR letter to service sign\nOne they 3 sevied\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nDate\n10.15.83\nSuspense Date\nMEMORANDUM FOR: John\nFROM:\nDIANNA G. HOLLAND\nACTION\nApproved\nPlease handle/review, if there's\nanything to as\nFor your information\nFor your recommendation\nFor the files\nPlease see me\nPlease prepare response for &\nsignature\nAs we discussed\nReturn to me for filing\nCOMMENT\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nOctober 11, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nare\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nIn response to my letter concerning her files (copy\nattached), Miss Honegger has written to advise me that all\nthe files were left at the Department of Justice. We have\nobtained those White House files that were left at Justice,\nbut have no way of verifying Miss Honegger's assertion that\nthose files are all that she took from the White House.\nUnder the circumstances, I recommend turning the files we\nhave obtained over to Central Files and closing the matter.\nAttachment\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 26, 1983\nDear Ms. Honegger:\nAs you know, individuals employed at the White House are not\npermitted to take originals or copies of documents in White\nHouse files with them when they terminate their employment.\nWhen you left the White House on March 16, 1982, you\nexecuted an agreement concerning White House files (copy\nattached). Under this agreement you were permitted to take\ncopies of certain documents from White House files with you\nto the Department of Justice on the express conditions that\nthe integrity of the files be maintained and that they be\nreturned intact by you to the White House upon completion of\nyour work at the Department of Justice. As you stated in\nyour memorandum, \"When my tenure with the legal equity\nfunction is complete, the files moved from the White House\nto Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor,\nand I will take full responsibility to see that that is\ndone. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such\ndocuments have been returned to the White House.\"\nIf the files in question were left at the Department of\nJustice, please advise us accordingly. If they are in your\npersonal possession, we would appreciate their prompt return\nto the White House, pursuant to your March 16, 1982,\nmemorandum. I would remind you that, consistent with White\nHouse policy and the memorandum you signed, you may not\nretain copies of White House files for any purpose.\nIf you have any questions concerning this matter, please\nfeel free to contact this office.\nSincerely,\nJohn G. Roberts\nAssociate Counsel to the\nPresident\nMs. Barbara Honegger\n4635 North 15th Street\nArlington, VA 22207\nCC: Terry Good\nBarbara Honegger\n4635 N. 15th Street\nArlington, VA 22207\n4 October 1983\nMr. John Roberts\nThe White House\nWashington, D.C. 20500\nDear Mr. Roberts:\nThank you for your letter and attachments of 3 October,\nwhich I received this evening. I appreciate your writing regard-\ning the files on the Working Group on Legal Equity for Women.\nIt is clear that the Department of Justice has not yet contacted\nthe White House regarding their return.\nThe few files which relate to this project are all still\nat the Department of Justice. Upon leaving on Saturday, August 20,\n1983, I wrote a detailed memoranda to Stewart Oneglia itemizing\nwhere all the files were. The files on the Working Group are\nclearly marked and presuming they have not since been moved--\non the 20th of August were in the bottom file drawer of the only\nfiling cabinet in my office. The only other White House files--\nthough they are really, as best as I can recall public domain\nmaterial are in a cardboard box which I left underneath the only\ntable in my office in the Justice Department The only material\nrelevant to my agreement, however, are in the well-marked file\nfolders in the bottom file drawer.\nI appreciate your appending the copy of the agreement regarding\nthese files. I have been trying to find my copy of it since resigning\nwithout success. There is only one part of the agreement which,\nwith great frustration, I was unable to fulfill though by no means\nwithout trying. I tried for months to obtain a locked filing cabinet\nwithout success from the Department of Justice. Satisfied that\nthe building was well guarded, however, I finally accepted the only\ncabinet that was available. The documents to be retunned are in\nthe bottom drawer. That is in (or was in) Rm 832, 320 First St, N.W.,\nWashington, D.C. Stewart Oneglia, Chief of the Division (Coordination\nand Review Section) should be easily able to help you locate them for\nreturn.\nThank you again for reminding me of this commitment. Do let me\nknow if there is anything else I can do to assist you.\nSincerely,\nBarbara Hondeger\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nOctober 3, 1983\nDear Ms. Honegger:\nAs you know, individuals employed at the White House are not\npermitted to take originals or copies of documents in White\nHouse files with them when they terminate their employment.\nWhen you left the White House on March 16, 1982, you\nexecuted an agreement concerning White House files (copy\nattached). Under this agreement you were permitted to take\ncopies of certain documents from White House files with you\nto the Department of Justice on the express conditions that\nthe integrity of the files be maintained and that they be\nreturned intact by you to the White House upon completion of\nyour work at the Department of Justice. As you stated in\nyour memorandum, \"When my tenure with the legal equity\nfunction is complete, the files moved from the White House\nto Justice will be returned to Terry Good, or his successor,\nand I will take full responsibility to see that that is\ndone. I will notify Counsel's Office in writing when such\ndocuments have been returned to the White House.\"\nIf the files in question were left at the Department of\nJustice, please advise us accordingly. If they are in your\npersonal possession, we would appreciate their prompt return\nto the White House, pursuant to your March 16, 1982,\nmemorandum. I would remind you that, consistent with White\nHouse policy and the memorandum you signed, you may not\nretain copies of White House files for any purpose.\nIf you have any questions concerning this matter, please\nfeel free to contact this office.\nSincerely,\nJohn G. Roberts\nAssociate Counsel to the\nPresident\nMs. Barbara Honegger\n4635 North 15th Street\nArlington, VA 22207\nCC: Terry Good\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nMarch 16, 1982\nFOR:\nH.P. GOLDFIELD\nFROM:\nBARBARA HONEGGER\nBoll\nSUBJECT:\nContinued Use of Files Relating to my Continued\nFunction, While at Justice, as Chairman of the\nCabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group\non Legal Equity for Women\nPursuant to your request, this memorandum confirms my agreement\nto follow the guidelines set forth by the Counsel's Office, as\ncommunicated in our telephone conversation, regarding continued\nuse of files relating to my function as Chairman of the Cabinet\nCouncil on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women\nwhile at the Department of Justice.\nThe files referred to are those generated as a result of my\nfunction over this past year as policy analyst and resource\ncontact at the White House on issues as they affect women and\nas Chairman of the Working Group on Legal Equity for Women.\nThough I will be physically moving to Justice, I will be con-\ntinuing with the same function begun here at the White House\nand so will require continued access to information accumulated\nover this past year relating to that function.\nI agree to make copies of all original file documents which are\nnecessary for me to continue my work while at Justice, leaving\nthe originals with Terry Good. All the files moved to Justice'\nwill be kept segregated from other files, and not co-mingled\nwith files created while at Justice, or files generated from\nthe files moved to Justice. Justice has agreed to provide\nlockable filing cabinets for this purpose.\nWhen my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the\nfiles moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to\nTerry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility\nto see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in\nwriting when such documents have been returned to the White House.\nPer your suggestion, approval of the agreement contained in this\nmemorandum, below, will be sufficient, together with Mr. Good's\nreceipt of originals in the files, to allow me to move the docu-\nments to the locked filing cabinet at the Department of Justice.\nDate\nMEMORANDUM\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSTATEMENT OF DEPOSIT OF PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS\nI have turned over all forsinal official records and other\nmaterials that were in my custody to the Office of Records\nManagement or my office. I have not retained copies of any\nof these records See a attached memo I\nundertanding per President Counsel\ndated 3-16-82\n3-16-82\nDate\nMary Ollice A Pitice\nSignature\nHONEGGER\nOffice Senedopment.\nChecked out by JW/Food\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nOctober 24, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nare\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nThe Honegger Files saga continues. When Honegger left the\nWhite House she signed a memorandum to H.P. Goldfield,\npursuant to which she was permitted to take copies of White\nHouse documents with her to the Justice Department, on the\nconditions that they be maintained separate from any Justice\nfiles and eventually returned to the White House. When\nreminded of her commitment to return the files Honegger\nreported that they had been left behind at Justice. Justice\nreturned a small box of files to us, and I delivered those\nto Terry Good at Central Files.\nGood compared the inventory of files turned in by Honegger\nwhen she left the White House with the files returned by the\nJustice Department. Pursuant to the agreement the latter\nshould have been a subset of the former, as Honegger\nsupposedly took to Justice duplicates of files she turned\nin. In fact, there is no overlap at all. This probably\nmeans that Honegger took originals and not duplicates with\nher to Justice. Since no inventory was taken of the files\nHonegger took to Justice, there is also no way of knowing if\nall of them have been returned. We should discuss.\nAttachment\nMEMORANDUM\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nOctober 21, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR\nJOHN ROBERTS\nFROM\nTERRY GOOD\nJh\nRE:\nBARBARA HONEGGER FILES\nOn Wednesday, I received the carton of Barbara Honegger files\nalong with your memo. Subsequently, I reread her memo of\nunderstanding to H. P. Goldfield and her Statement of Deposit.\nIn both documents she stated that she left originals with the\nWhite House and took only copies.\nI believe that you will find it interesting to compare the\ninventory of the files that she left here with that of the files\nreturned from the Department of Justice. I was expecting a\nperfect match. In fact, they don't match at all. Further, I was\nexpecting the returned files to be duplicates. Upon examination,\nthere are many originals. Which leads me to conclude that she (1)\ndidn't understand the distinction between the words \"original\"\nand \"duplicate\" and/or (2) suffered a lapse of memory after\nsending the memo to H. P. and signing the Statement of Deposit in\nmy presence or\nObviously, neither H. P. nor I examined the files that she took\nwith her to Justice. While I can't speak for H. P., it did not\noccur to me - nor, I suspect, to him - that such an examination\nwas necessary in light of her signatures on the two documents.\nActually, such an undertaking is totally at variance with the\nintent of the check-out procedure in our office. We see our role\nas counselor's to assist the departing staffer in avoiding what\nwould be, in its baldest form, a criminal act - the removal of\ngovernment records, whether they be originals or duplicates.\nInterestingly, most staffers don't know this and, as I recall,\nneither did Barbara. When she explained that she needed some of\nthe files in her new capacity at Justice, I referred her, as we\nroutinely do when staffers have questions about this law, to the\nCounsel's Office, mentioning that H. P. had some expertise in\nthis area.\nFor her to have consulted with H. P., signed both documents and\nthen \"deviated\" from her promises leaves me totally at a loss for\na rational explanation.\nAt this point, I would have to say that I would be very\nuncomfortable in verifying that we received everything that\nBarbara took with her. In fact, I can't.\nAny further pursuit of this matter is, I suppose, up to the\ndiscretion of the Counsel's Office.\nI have attached copies of relevant documents.\nOCT 21 1983\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nOctober 19, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR TERRY W. GOOD\nASSISTANT DIRECTOR\nRECORDS MANAGEMENT\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\n270R\nASSOCIATE COUNSEL TO THE PRESIDENT\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nWe have received from the Department of Justice those White\nHouse files left at Justice by Barbara Honegger. I am\nherewith forwarding those files to you for appropriate\nhandling and disposition.\nMany thanks.\nINVENTORY OF THE FILES OF BARBARA HONEGGER\nRETURNED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE\nHEALTH/HEALTH CARE\nNUCLEAR ENERGY/PROLIFERATION\n(empty folder)\nSCIENCE POLICY/ADMINISTRATION\nURBAN POLICY\nENTERPRISE ZONES PROPOSAL\nANTITRUST LEGISLATION AND PROPOSED LEGISLATION\nPRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON HOUSING (unlabelled folder)\nTECHNOLOGY POLICY, INFO.\nENVIRONMENTAL POLICY\nFOREIGN POLICY\nWORKING GROUP ON LEGAL AND REGULATORY EQUITY, CABCNCL/HRs\nWORKING GROUP ON LEGAL EQUITY FOR WOMEN (of Cab Council on\nLegal Policy (2/82-7/82)\nNORM HUGHES APPLICATION FOR SCIENCE ADVISOR\nTASK FORCE ON SEX DISCRIMINATION Justice\nExec Order 12336 DEVELOPMENT/MEETINGS, etc.\nEXECUTIVE ORDER 12336 and Development of Order\n063893\n1110\nFG006-01\nMarch 16, 1982\nHE 000\nIT086\nThe following is a folder inventory of files transferred to\nthe Office of Records Management by Barbara Honegger of the\nPL\nOffice of Policy Development.\nWE 003\nEMERGENCY HEALTH CARE\nHE\nUNITED NATIONS QUESTIONNAIRE ON WOMEN\nREPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE\nHu016\nHONEGGER TO ANDERSON ON RISKS OF PREGNANCY\nFG010-02\nMILITARY MANPOWER TASK FORCE\nEMS - EMRGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES\n2\nAlso attached is a copy of an understanding between Barbara\nHonegger and H. P. Goldfield of the Counsel's Office regarding\nher use of copies of selected files in her capacity as Chairman\nof the Cabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal\nEquity for Women.\nEnclosures filed in\nOversize Attachments #\n3398\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nJohn\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 21, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\ngod\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nI have now received from the Justice Department a box of\nWhite House files left behind by Barbara Honegger. Judy\nHammerschmidt, a special assistant in the Civil Rights\nDivision who gathered and returned the files, is confident\nthat Honegger removed the bulk of the White House files from\nher Justice Department office. The small amount of White\nHouse files returned to us by Hammerschmidt supports this\nsupposition. Accordingly, I recommend sending the attached\nletter to Honegger. Honegger may choose to garner publicity\nover the files question, but I believe our position is\nunassailable, particularly since we are simply asking\nHonegger to comply with a memorandum she signed. Perhaps\nyou should raise the matter with Deaver, both in his\ncapacity as head of the working group on women and in his\nunenviable role of Administration liaison with\nAttachment\nSofting Honegger. JGR letter to slifeth sign\nOne they 3 Marrid\nJohn discount wl so MKD, wl the\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nOctober 11, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS 220\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nIn response to my letter concerning her files (copy\nattached), Miss Honegger has written to advise me that all\nthe files were left at the Department of Justice. We have\nobtained those White House files that were left at Justice,\nbut have no way of verifying Miss Honegger's assertion that\nthose files are all that she took from the White House.\nUnder the circumstances, I recommend turning the files we\nhave obtained over to Central Files and closing the matter.\nAttachment\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nNovember 2, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nare\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nAt the staff meeting on Tuesday, November 1, Fred F.\nFielding agreed that we should not pursue this matter\nfurther at this time. Should any questions arise concerning\nHonegger's subsequent use of White House files, we can\nrevisit these issues at that time.\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nOctober 24, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nThe Honegger Files saga continues. When Honegger left the\nWhite House she signed a memorandum to H.P. Goldfield,\npursuant to which she was permitted to take copies of White\nHouse documents with her to the Justice Department, on the\nconditions that they be maintained separate from any Justice\nfiles and eventually returned to the White House. When\nreminded of her commitment to return the files Honegger\nreported that they had been left behind at Justice. Justice\nreturned a small box of files to us, and I delivered those\nto Terry Good at Central Files.\nGood compared the inventory of files turned in by Honegger\nwhen she left the White House with the files returned by the\nJustice Department. Pursuant to the agreement the latter\nshould have been a subset of the former, as Honegger\nsupposedly took to Justice duplicates of files she turned\nin. In fact, there is no overlap at all. This probably\nmeans that Honegger took originals and not duplicates with\nher to Justice. Since no inventory was taken of the files\nHonegger took to Justice, there is also no way of knowing if\nall of them have been returned. We should discuss.\nAttachment\nCbr\n10/24\nMEMORANDUM\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nOctober 21,1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR\nJOHN ROBERTS\nFROM\nTERRY GOOD\nHg\nRE:\nBARBARA HONEGGER FILES\nOn Wednesday, I received the carton of Barbara Honegger files\nalong with your memo. Subsequently, I reread her memo of\nunderstanding to H. P. Goldfield and her Statement of Deposit.\nIn both documents she stated that she left originals with the\nWhite House and took only copies.\nI believe that you will find it interesting to compare the\ninventory of the files that she left here with that of the files\nreturned from the Department of Justice. I was expecting a\nperfect match. In fact, they don't match at all. Further, I was\nexpecting the returned files to be duplicates. Upon examination,\nthere are many originals. Which leads me to conclude that she (1)\ndidn't understand the distinction between the words \"original\"\nand \"duplicate\" and/or (2) suffered a lapse of memory after\nsending the memo to H. P. and signing the Statement of Deposit in\nmy presence or\nObviously, neither H. P. nor I examined the files that she took\nwith her to Justice. While I can't speak for H. P., it did not\noccur to me - nor, I suspect, to him - that such an examination\nwas necessary in light of her signatures on the two documents.\nActually, such an undertaking is totally at variance with the\nintent of the check-out procedure in our office. We see our role\nas counselor's to assist the departing staffer in avoiding what\nwould be, in its baldest form, a criminal act - the removal of\ngovernment records, whether they be originals or duplicates.\nInterestingly, most staffers don't know this and, as I recall,\nneither did Barbara. When she explained that she needed some of\nthe files in her new capacity at Justice, I referred her, as we\nroutinely do when staffers have questions about this law, to the\nCounsel's Office, mentioning that H. P. had some expertise in\nthis area.\nFor her to have consulted with H. P., signed both documents and\nthen \"deviated\" from her promises leaves me totally at a loss for\na rational explanation.\nAt this point, I would have to say that I would be very\nuncomfortable in verifying that we received everything that\nBarbara took with her. In fact, I can't.\nAny further pursuit of this matter is, I suppose, up to the\ndiscretion of the Counsel's Office.\nI have attached copies of relevant documents.\nOCT 21 1983\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nyour\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 21, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nJR\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nI have now received from the Justice Department a box of\nWhite House files left behind by Barbara Honegger. Judy\nHammerschmidt, a special assistant in the Civil Rights\nDivision who gathered and returned the files, is confident\nthat Honegger removed the bulk of the White House files from\nher Justice Department office. The small amount of White\nHouse files returned to us by Hammerschmidt supports this\nsupposition. Accordingly, I recommend sending the attached\nletter to Honegger. Honegger may choose to garner publicity\nover the files question, but I believe our position is\nunassailable, particularly since we are simply asking\nHonegger to comply with a memorandum she signed. Perhaps\nyou should raise the matter with Deaver, both in his\ncapacity as head of the working group on women and in his\nunenviable role of Administration liaison with\nAttachment\nwe\nSoften Honegger. JGR letter to sign\nOne\ntheys servid\nJohn wl so MICD wl th\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSeptember 12, 1983\nMEMORANDUM FOR FRED F. FIELDING\nFROM:\nJOHN G. ROBERTS\nDrd\nSUBJECT:\nHonegger Files\nCentral Files has alerted us to the existence of a\nmemorandum from Barbara Honegger to H.P. Goldfield, dated\nMarch 16, 1982, in which Honegger states, \"When my tenure\nwith the legal equity function is complete, the files moved\nfrom the White House to Justice will be returned to Terry\nGood, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility\nto see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in\nwriting when such documents have been returned to the White\nHouse. This undertaking was apparently considered\nnecessary before Honegger was permitted to carry copies of\nWhite House files to the Justice Department. Although\nHonegger has resigned her post, thereby \"completing\" her\n\"tenure\" with the legal equity function, the files have not\nbeen returned nor has our office been so notified.\nI called over to the Justice Department (Ken Starr) to\ndetermine if the copies of White House files taken by\nHonegger are still in Honegger's office, and advised that\nany White House files identifiable as such should be\nreturned to us. I have not yet heard back from Justice.\nTerry Good of Central Files advised that there was no way of\nascertaining if what Justice returns to us - if anything -\nconstitutes a complete set of what Honegger took with her.\nIt will therefore probably be advisable to write Honegger to\nrequest her compliance with the terms of the agreement she\nsigned (and remind her that she may not retain copies of\nWhite House files, even for use on her forthcoming book).\nWe can revisit this question when we see what files were\nleft behind at Justice.\n/rk\nAttachment\nSEP 13 1983\nID #. 166779\nCU\nWHITE HOUSE\nCORRESPONDENCE TRACKING WORKSHEET\nFG006-01\nO OUTGOING\nH INTERNAL\nI . INCOMING\nDate Correspondence\nReceived (YY/MM/DD)\n/\n/\nName of Correspondent: Barbasa Honegger\nMI Mail Report\nUser Codes: (A)\n(B)\n(C)\nSubject: Memo to HP goldfield re Honegger 5 White\nHouse Filer\nROUTE TO:\nACTION\nDISPOSITION\nTracking\nType\nCompletion\nAction\nDate\nof\nDate\nOffice/Agency\n(Staff Name)\nCode\nYY/MM/DD\nResponse\nCode\nYY/MM/DD\nWHON\nORIGINA DD 83,09,02\n/\n/\nReferral Note:\nCNAT18\nD 03/09/02\nDDI\n5 23109813\nReferral Notes\n*\n/\n/\n/\n/\n-\nReferral Note:\n/\n/\n/\n/\nI\nReferral Note:\n/\n/\n/\n/\nI\nReferral Note:\nACTION CODES:\nDISPOSITION CODES:\nA Appropriate Action\nI Info Copy Only/No Action Necessary\nA Answered\nC Completed\nC - Comment/Recommendation\nR - Direct Reply w/Copy\nB . Non-Special Referral\nS Suspended\nD Draft Response\nS - For Signature\nF Furnish Fact Sheet\nX Interim Reply\nto be used as Enclosure\nFOR OUTGOING CORRESPONDENCE\nType of Response = Initials of Signer\nCode = \"A\"\nCompletion Date = Date of Outgoing\nComments:\nKeep this worksheet attached to the original incoming letter.\nSend all routing updates to Central Reference (Room 75, OEOB).\nAlways return completed correspondence record to Central Files.\nRefer questions about the correspondence tracking system to Central Reference, ext. 2590.\n5/81\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nMarch 16, 1982\nJGR\nFOR:\nH.P. GOLDFIELD\nFROM:\nBARBARA HONEGGER\nBoll\n166779 CIC\nSUBJECT:\nContinued Use of Files Relating to my Continued\nFunction, While at Justice, as Chairman of the\nCabinet Council on Legal Policy Working Group\non Legal Equity for Women\nPursuant to your request, this memorandum confirms my agreement\nto follow the guidelines set forth by the Counsel's Office, as\ncommunicated in our telephone conversation, regarding continued\nuse of files relating to my function as Chairman of the Cabinet\nCouncil on Legal Policy Working Group on Legal Equity for Women\nwhile at the Department of Justice.\nThe files referred to are those generated as a result of my\nfunction over this past year as policy analyst and resource\ncontact at the White House on issues as they affect women and\nas Chairman of the Working Group on Legal Equity for Women.\nThough I will be physically moving to Justice, I will be con-\ntinuing with the same function begun here at the White House\nand so will require continued access to information accumulated\nover this past year relating to that function.\nI agree to make copies of all original file documents which are\nnecessary for me to continue my work while at Justice, leaving\nthe originals with Terry Good. All the files moved to Justice\nwill be kept segregated from other files, and not co-mingled\nwith files created while at Justice, or files generated from\nthe files moved to Justice. Justice has agreed to provide\nlockable filing cabinets for this purpose.\nWhen my tenure with the legal equity function is complete, the\nfiles moved from the White House to Justice will be returned to\nTerry Good, or his successor, and I will take full responsibility\nto see that that is done. I will notify Counsel's Office in\nwriting when such documents have been returned to the White House.\nPer your suggestion, approval of the agreement contained in this\nmemorandum, below, will be sufficient, together with Mr. Good's\nreceipt of originals in the files, to allow me to move the docu-\nments to the locked filing cabinet at the Department of Justice.\nDate\n¡EMORANDUM\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSTATEMENT OF DEPOSIT OF PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS\nI have turned over all prismal official records and other\nmaterials that were in my custody to the Office of Records\nManagement or my office. I have not retained copies of any\nof these records See a attached memo J\nunderstanding per President Counsel\ndated 3-16-82\n3-16-82\nDate\nMary Signature HONEGGER\nOffice A Pitice\nOffice Benedogment\nChecked out by JW/Yood"
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