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    "ocrText": "Ronald Reagan Presidential Library\nDigital Library Collections\nThis is a PDF of a folder from our textual collections.\nCollection: Matlock, Jack F.: Files\nFolder Title: Matlock Chron November 1985 (6)\nBox: 13\nTo see more digitized collections visit:\nhttps://reaganlibrary.gov/archives/digital-library\nTo see all Ronald Reagan Presidential Library inventories visit:\nhttps://reaganlibrary.gov/document-collection\nContact a reference archivist at: [email protected]\nCitation Guidelines: https://reaganlibrary.gov/citing\nNational Archives Catalogue: https://catalog.archives.gov/\nWITHDRAWAL SHEET\nRonald Reagan Library\nCollection Name MATLOCK, JACK: FILES\nWithdrawer\nJET 4/13/2005\nFile Folder\nMATLOCK CHRON NOVEMBER 1985 (6/10)\nFOIA\nF06-114/3\nBox Number\n13\nYARHI-MILO\n1304\nID Doc Type\nDocument Description\nNo of Doc Date Restrictions\nPages\n8008 MEMO\nMCFARLANE TO PRESIDENT REAGAN RE\n1\nND\nB1\nSOVIET DESIRE FOR JOINT DOCUMENTS:\nHARTMAN'S MEETING WITH\nSHEVARDNADZE ON NOVEMBER 14\nR\n3/8/2011\nF2006-114/3\n8009 MEMO\nMATLOCK TO MCFARLANE RE SOVIET\n1 11/15/1985 B1\nDESIRE FOR JOINT STATEMENT: HARTMAN-\nSHEVARDNADZE MEETING NOVEMBER 14\nR\n3/8/2011\nF2006-114/3\n8010 MEMO\nSHULTZ TO PRESIDENT REAGAN RE 11/14\n1 11/15/1985 B1\nHARTMAN-SHEVARDNADZE MEETING\nR 10/30/2007 NLRRF06-114/3\n8011 MEMO\nMATLOCK TO MCFARLANE RE DRAFT\n1 11/13/1985\nX\nB3\nNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE\nPAR 4/13/2011\nF2006-114/3\n8012 MEMO\nGATES TO MCFARLANE RE \"DOMESTIC\n1 11/6/1985 B3\nSTRESSES ON THE SOVIET SYSTEM\"\nPAR 4/13/2011 F2006-114/3\n8013 PAPER\n\"DOMESTIC STRESSES ON THE SOVIET\n55 11/5/1985 B1 B3\nSYSTEM\nD\n4/13/2011\nF2006-114/3\nFreedom of Information Act - [5 U.S.C. 552(b)]\nB-1 National security classified information [(b)(1) of the FOIA]\nB-2 Release would disclose internal personnel rules and practices of an agency [(b)(2) of the FOIA]\nB-3 Release would violate a Federal statute [(b)(3) of the FOIA]\nB-4 Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential or financial information [(b)(4) of the FOIA]\nB-6 Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy [(b)(6) of the FOIA]\nB-7 Release would disclose information compiled for law enforcement purposes [(b)(7) of the FOIA]\nB-8 Release would disclose information concerning the regulation of financial institutions [(b)(8) of the FOIA]\nB-9 Release would disclose geological or geophysical information concerning wells [(b)(9) of the FOIA]\nC. Closed in accordance with restrictions contained in donor's deed of gift.\nmatterh\nSYSTEM I\n9225\nclinin\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSECRET\nACTION\nMEMORANDUM FOR THE PRESIDENT\nread\nFROM:\nROBERT C. MCFARLANE\nSUBJECT:\nSoviet Desire for Joint Documents: Hartman's\nMeeting with Shevardnadze on November 14\nGeorge Shultz has sent you a memorandum describing Art Hartman's\nconversation with Shevardnadze yesterday, when the latter\nexpressed \"astonishment\" that we are unwilling to proceed to\ndraft a communique to be issued following your meeting with\nGorbachev. It is clear that the Soviets very much want some type\nof joint document to carry home.\nWhile a traditional type of communique is not in our interest,\nand we should continue to resist Soviet desires on this point, we\nmay find that it will be useful to us to issue some sort of joint\nstatement, provided the Soviets agree on a sufficient number of\nconcrete matters that a commitment from them serves our interest.\nWe should decide this only at the meeting, and use the Soviet\ndesire for a document as leverage: that is, imply to them that if\nthey want a document so much, then it is up to them to come up\nwith sufficient content to make it worthwhile.\nThis way, you can make the call on the spot. In any event we\nwould have separate statements describing the talks as a whole,\nplus perhaps signing of the exchanges agreement. Then, if the\nSoviets come across with some things in our interest, there could\nbe a joint statement listing them.\nRecommendation\nOK\nNo\nThat you read the Memorandum at Tab A from\nSecretary Shultz\nAttachment:\nTab A\nMemorandum to the President from Secretary Shultz\nPrepared by:\nJack F. Matlock\nSECRET\nDeclassify on: OADR\nDECLASSIFIED\nNLRR FOG- 114/3#8008\nBY RW NARA DATE 3/8/11\n2\nSYSTEM I\n9225\nNATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL\nWASHINGTON, D.C. 20506\nSECRET/SENSITIVE/EYES ONLY\nNovember 15, 1985\nACTION\nMEMORANDUM FOR ROBERT C. MCRARLANE\nJACK MATLOCK Aam\nun\nFROM:\nSUBJECT:\nSoviet Desire for Joint Statement: Hartman-\nShevardnadze Meeting November 14\nSecretary Shultz has sent the President a Memorandum which\nreports on the meeting Art Hartman had with Shevardnadze\nyesterday. Not surprisingly, Shevardnadze made quite an issue\nout of our position that there will be no joint communique.\nArt considers this clear evidence that the Soviets badly want\nsome sort of joint document to emerge from the meeting.\nAssuming that if we get agreement on a sufficient number of\nconcrete items, we are not adverse to formulating it into some\nform of a joint document (not, of course, a communique in the\ntraditional sense), I believe we can use the Soviet eagerness for\na document as some modest leverage. It is also my understanding\nthat this is not counter to the President's wishes, since there\nwould still be separate statements dealing with the meeting as a\nwhole, and any joint statement would be confined to those\nspecific actions on which both sides have agreed.\nI have drafted a cover memorandum to the President on these\nassumptions. You should, of course, amend it if it does not\nreflect your thinking.\nRECOMMENDATION:\nThat you forward the Memorandum at Tab I to the President.\nApprove\nDisapprove m\nAttachments:\nHandway\nTab I - Memorandum to the President\nTab A - Secretary Shultz's Memorandum to the President of\nNovember 15.\nSECRET/SENSITIVE\nDeclassify on: OADR\nDECLASSIFIED\nNLRR F06-114/3#8009\nBY RW NARA DATE 3/8/11\n3\nES SENSITIVE 8533868\nTHE SECRETARY OF STATE\n9225\nWASHINGTON\nSECRET SENSITIVE\nNovember 15, 1985\nMEMORANDUM FOR: THE PRESIDENT\nFROM:\nGeorge P. Shultz\nSUBJECT:\n11/14 Hartman-Shevardnadze Meeting\nArt Hartman spent two hours this morning with Shevardnadze\nreviewing where we stand on the eve of your meeting with\nGorbachev. The main thing Art came away with was that the\nSoviets badly want a final document of some sort in Geneva.\nThe document issue came up when Art presented our proposed\nlanguage on the new exchanges initiatives. When he would not\nbe pinned down on whether we expected the language to be\nincluded in a communique, Shevardnadze expressed \"amazement\"\nthat there could be any question on this issue. He claimed to\nhave a report from Dobrynin that a joint document had already\nbeen agreed except for a few details. (Shevardnadze was\npresumably referring to our having accepted on Monday for\nconsideration some new Soviet ideas on specific issues in a\njoint document.) Shevardnadze complained that it would be a\n\"waste of time\" for you and Gorbachev simply to go to Geneva\nand say you had agreed to meet again. In the end, Shevardnadze\nacknowledged our right to refuse to accept a joint document,\nbut made clear that he and Gorbachev personally felt that one\nwas desirable.\nArt reminded Shevardnadze of my repeated warnings that we\nremained to be convinced of the necessity or desirability of a\nfinal document. Art speculated that you and Gorbachev might\nmake a final decision on how the meeting should be recorded\nonly in Geneva. Shevardnadze was clearly not comfortable with\nthis prospect.\nIt is clear from Shevardnadze's discomfiture how much\nimportance the Soviets attach to a final document in Geneva.\nDobrynin, probably pandering to the mood in Moscow, has\napparently fueled expectations in the Kremlin by overstating\nour willingness to consider a document. I will use my Friday\nsession with Dobrynin to be sure he knows our position on a\nfinal document and to underscore our continued seriousness as\nGeneva draws nigh.\nDECLASSIFIED\nSECRET/SENSITIVE\nDECL: OADR\nNLRR Fob-114/3 #8010\nBY Civ NARA DATE 10/30/07\n4\nSystem II\n91166\nNATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL\nWASHINGTON, D.C. 20506\nSECRET\nACTION\nNovember 15, 1985\nMEMORANDUM FOR ROBERT C. MCFARLANE\nFROM:\nJACK F. MATLOCK 4\nSUBJECT:\nDraft National Intelligence Estimate\nThe CIA has provided an advance draft of a National Intelligence\nEstimate concerning domestic stresses on the Soviet system (Tab\nI). Essentially it covers in greater detail the points\nmade in the meeting of CIA analysts with the President\nWednesday. You may wish to glance through it for further\nFOIA(b) (3)\ndetails.\nJL\nJohn Lenczowski concurs.\nRECOMMENDATION\nThat you review the attached draft NIE if time allows.\nApprove of\nDisapprove\nAttachment:\nTab I\nDraft NIE\nDECLASSIFIED IN PART\nSECRET\nDeclassify on: OADR\nNLRR 606-114/3#8011\nBY RW NARA DATE 4/13/11\nSECRET\nSYSTEM II\n5\nThe Director of Central Intelligence\n91166\nWashington. D.C. 20505\nFOIA(b) (3)\nNational Intelligence Council\nNIC #05472-85/1\n6 NOV\nMEMORANDUM FOR: The Honorable Robert C. McFarlane\nAssistant to the President for National Security Affairs\nFROM:\nRobert M. Gates\nChairman, National Intelligence Council\nSUBJECT:\nNational Intelligence Estimate 11-18-85, \"Domestic Stresses\nRond-\non the Soviet System\"\n1. The DCI has instructed that I make available to you the uncoordinated\ndraft of the forthcoming National Intelligence Estimate 11-18-85, \"Domestic\nStresses on the Soviet System,\" so that its themes can be of use in\npreparations for the meeting between the President and Gorbachev.\n2. Please be reminded that this draft does not represent coordinated\nnational intelligence. So far it is only the product of the National\nIntelligence Officer/USSR and select analysts of CIA/SOVA. Since we have not\npreviously tackled this range of internal Soviet problems, it is more than\nusually difficult to anticipate final agency positions. I anticipate that\nsome will take the position that this draft exaggerates the depth of Soviet\ninternal difficulties and their constraining impact on Soviet foreign and\nmilitary behavior. Others may feel that these Soviet problems make it more\nlikely than this draft judges that the Gorbachev regime will compromise on\nsecurity issues to achieve a relaxed and predictable course for East-West\nrelations. Nevertheless, while dissents may be vigorous, I doubt they will be\nradically at variance with this draft.\n3. We plan to submit a coordinated draft for approval by the National\nForeign Intelligence Board on 14 November and to publish the NIE shortly\nthereafter.\nRobert M. Gates\nAttachment\nCC: Under Secretary of Defense for Policy\nUnder Secretary of State for Political Affairs\nDECLASSIFIED IN PART\nNLRR F06-114/3#8012\nBY RW NARA DATE 4/13/11\nSECRET"
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