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Referral Note:
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
August 26, 1982
MEMORANDUM FOR DAVE FISCHER
FROM:
M. B. OGLESBY,
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SUBJECT:
Members of the House of Representatives
Who Met with the President at Camp David
to Discuss the Tax Bill
All Members of the House of Representatives listed on
the attached page, with the exception of Congressman
George O'Brien (R-Illinois), met with the President
at Camp David on Sunday, August 15, 1982.
'ACHMENT B
PARTICIPANTS
The President
Secretary of the Treasury, Donald Regan
OMB Director, David Stockman
Congressman Chalmers Wylie (R-Ohio)
Congressman Ed Madigan (R-Illinois)
Congressman Bill Broomfield (R-Michigan)
Congressman George O. 'Brien (R-Illinois)
Congressman Lyle Williams (R-Ohio)
Congressman Gerald Solomon (R-New York)
Congressman Arlen Erdahl (R-Minnesota)
Congressman Bill Emerson (R-Missouri)
Congresswoman Lynn Martin (R-Illinois)
Congressman Guy Vander Jagt (R-Michigan)
Congressman Manuel Lujan (R-New Mexico)
Congressman Joe Skeen (R-New Mexico)
Congressman Mike Oxley (R-Ohio)
Congressman Dan Marriott (R-Utah)
Congressman Sid Morrison (R-Washington)
Congressman John Paul Hammerschmidt (R-Arkansas)
Congressman Joe McDade (R-Pennsylvania)
Congressman Jim Courter (R-New Jersey)
Congressman Bill Whitehurst (R-Virginia)
Congressman Bill Goodling (R-Pennsylvania)
Congressman Cleve Benedict (R-West Virginia)
Congressman Bill Young (R-Florida)
Congresswoman Marge Roukema (R-New Jersey)
Congressman Guy Molinari (R-New York)
Congressman Barber Conable (R-New York)
Congressman John Duncan (R-Tennessee)
Congressman Wayne Grisham (R-California)
Congressman Joel Pritchard (R-Washington)
Congressman Hal Rogers (R-Kentucky)
Congressman Jim Coyne (R-Pennsylvania)
Congressman Bill Carney (R-New York)
Congressman Carroll Campbell (R-South Carolina)
Congressmen Clay show
Staff
Ed Meese
Jim Baker
Mike Deaver
Ken Duberstein
Dick Darman
M. B. Oglesby, Jr.
Michael Evans
Lyn Nofziger
August 14, 1982
PLEASE DACOM TO THE PRESIDENT
VIA THE MILITARY AIDE
FROM:
CRAIG FULLER
UNPUBLISHED
August 13, 1
THE WHITE HOUSE
5:00 pm
WASHINGTON
THE PRESIDENT'S SCHEDULE
Saturday, August 14, 1982
12:00 noon
Lunch with Secretary George
Camp David
Shultz, et al
(Clark)
Sunday, August 15, 1982
12:00 noon
Congressional Lunch
Camp David
(Duberstein)
Evening
Return to White House
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
MEETING WITH SELECTED REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
DATE:
Sunday, August 15, 1982
LOCATION:
Camp David
TIME:
Luncheon
FROM:
Kenneth M. Duberstein
Ken
Q.
I. PURPOSE
To solicit support for the House/Senate tax bill confer-
ence report.
II. BACKGROUND
House Republicans are very reluctant to support the tax
bill. Many Republicans are adamantly opposed to any tax
increase and have aggresively mobilized Republican opposi-
tion.
The House/Senate Conference report is now completed.
Many of these Republicans have been reluctant to commit
their support before the conference report was completed.
This meeting will provide an opportunity for the President
to firm-up support and to try to convince the leaning and
undecided to become supporters.
III. PARTICIPANTS
See Attachment.
IV. PRESS PLAN
White House Photographer only.
V. SEQUENCE OF EVENTS
No set schedule.
Attachment A: Talking Points
Attachment B: Participants List
ATTACHMENT A
SUGGESTED TALKING POINTS FOR MEETING
WITH SELECTED REPUBLICAN MEMBERS
OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
We've accomplished a lot by working together over the
last year and a half. You have helped enact historic
changes - a basic reversal of the tax and spend policies
of years past.
As Members of Congress you know how difficult it was
to put together a coalition for our economic program.
We had similar problems passing a Budget Resolution this
year. We were able to save our basic tax cut and the
indexing provisions - but at a price. The price was the
tax package now reported out of conference.
You know how important I believe it is to pass this
conference report. Passing this conference report will
help bring down interest rates and keep them down. These
lower interest rates are the key to stimulating business
recovery.
Unfortunately there has been a lot of misinformation
about this tax bill. New personal taxes are only 17 per-
cent of the $99 billion figure. About 80 percent of the
money raised by the bill will come from plugging special
interest loopholes and from collecting money that is
already owed.
2
As partners in an economic recovery program we are faced
with tough choices. In my mind a vote against the
conference report is a vote for higher deficits and
higher interest rates and would create a breakdown
in the budget process that is so crucial to imposing
fiscal discipline on the Democrats in the House.
One other thing, if this were a parliamentary form of
government, a vote against this conference report would
be considered a vote of "no confidence" in me and my
leadership. I need your help and support. I'm asking
you to vote for the tax bill conference report.
ATTACHMENT B
PARTICIPANTS
The President
Secretary of the Treasury, Donald Regan
OMB Director, David Stockman
Congressman Chalmers Wylie (R-Ohio)
Congressman Ed Madigan (R-Illinois)
Congressman Bill Broomfield (R-Michigan)
* Congressman George O'Brien (R-Illinois)
Congressman Lyle Williams (R-Ohio)
Congressman Gerald Solomon (R-New York)
Congressman Arlen Erdahl (R-Minnesota)
Congressman Bill Emerson (R-Missouri)
Congresswoman Lynn Martin (R-Illinois)
Congressman Guy Vander Jagt (R-Michigan)
Congressman Manuel Lujan (R-New Mexico)
Congressman Joe Skeen (R-New Mexico)
Congressman Mike Oxley (R-Ohio)
Congressman Dan Marriott (R-Utah)
Congressman Sid Morrison (R-Washington)
Congressman John Paul Hammerschmidt (R-Arkansas)
Congressman Joe McDade (R-Pennsylvania)
Congressman Jim Courter (R-New Jersey)
Congressman Bill Whitehurst (R-Virginia)
Congressman Bill Goodling (R-Pennsylvania)
Congressman Cleve Benedict (R-West Virginia)
Congressman Bill Young (R-Florida)
Congresswoman Marge Roukema (R-New Jersey)
Congressman Guy Molinari (R-New York)
Congressman Barber Conable (R-New York)
Congressman, John Duncan (R-Tennessee)
Congressman Wayne Grisham (R-California)
Congressman Joel Pritchard (R-Washington)
Congressman Hal Rogers (R-Kentucky)
Congressman Jim Coyne (R-Pennsylvania)
Congressman Bill Carney (R-New York)
Congressman Carroll Campbell (R-South Carolina)
Staff
Ed Meese
Jim Baker
Mike Deaver
Ken Duberstein
Dick Darman
M. B. Oglesby, Jr.
Michael Evans
Lyn Nofziger
* late regret
Jim Coyne
A Republican who represents the 8th
District of Pennsylvania which includes
much of suburban Philadelphia. Mr.
Coyne is serving his first term and sits
on the Banking and House Administration
Committees. He is leaning strongly
against the tax bill because of political
considerations. Congressman Coyne's
opponent was the incumbent in 1980 and is
accusing the Congressman of being a "rubber
stamp" for the President.
Guy Molinari
A Republican who represents the 17th
District of New York which includes all
of Staten Island. He is serving his first
term and sits on the Public Works and
Transportation and Small Business Commit-
tees. Mr. Molinari is leaning against the
tax bill because of political considerations.
He is in a tough race with an incumbent
Democrat because of redistricting.
Chalmers Wylie
A Republican from Ohio's 15th District
(Columbus and counties west) -- is serving
his 8th term. He is leaning against
supporting the tax bill. The Ohio financial
community is actively opposing the dividend
withholding provision. Wylie has written
the President to encourage a tax on liquor
and spirits to replace dividend withholding
revenues. The Congressman participated in
a small group meeting with the President on
August 12 to discuss the tax package. He is
a member of the Committees on Banking, Finance
and Urban Affairs and Veterans' Affairs.
Barber Conable
A Republican from New York's 35th District
(counties east of Buffalo) -- is serving
his 9th term. He is the ranking Republican
Member of the House Ways and Means Committee.
He has been consumed by the House/Senate
Conference on the tax package which should
be concluded by August 14. Conable voted
in Committee to take the Senate tax package
directly to Conference. He met with the
President on August 4th to discuss the tax
bill.
Bill Emerson
A freshman representing Missouri's
10th district. He is a member of the
Agriculture Committee.
Bill is very concerned about the
possible negative political impact
of voting for the tax conference report,
but is receptive to our arguments for
such a vote. He is a strong and con-
sistent supporter of your economic
recovery efforts.
You met with Bill on this on Friday,
August 13.
Lynn Martin
A freshman from Rockford, Illinois,
she is a member of the House Budget
Committee.
Lynn is a consistent supporter of your
economic recovery efforts but she is
undecided about how to vote on the
tax conference report. Lynn was not
able to meet with you on this before.
Guy Vander Jagt
A 9th term Member from Michigan's 9th
district, which includes the City of
Luther. Guy is chairman of the
National Republican Congressional
Committee (NRCC). Guy is a member
of the House Ways and Means Committee
and plans to vote for the tax
conference report.
Guy met with you on August 5 when
you discussed the tax conference
with other members of the Ways and
Means Committee.
Cleve Benedict
Republican from West Virginia's 2nd District
(east West Virginia including Morgantown) --
is serving his 1st term. The Congressman
is undecided in his support of the tax
bill. Benedict is running for the United
States Senate seat currently held by
Senate Minority Leader Robert Byrd,
who voted against the bill. Benedict
is a member of the Energy and Commerce
Committee.
Bill Young
A Republican from Florida's 6th District
(cities of St. Petersburg and Clearwater)
is serving his 6th term. He is leaning
in support of the tax bill. Dividend
withholding is a specific, though not
overriding, concern due to the large number
of retirees in his District (St. Petersburg).
The Congressman met with the President
along with a select group of Republicans
on August 5, 1982; and again on August 13
along with a colleague. Young does not have
a general election opponent. He worked
diligently in Florida for the President's
election. The Congressman is a member of
the Appropriations Committee.
John Duncan
A Republican from Tennessee's 2nd District
(east Tennessee including Knoxville) --
is serving his 9th term. A member of
the Joint Committee on Taxation and the
second ranking Republican on the House
Ways and Means Committee, he is presently
serving as a tax conferee. Duncan is
reported to be "leaning for" the tax bill.
He met with the President on August 5th
with other Ways and Means Committee
Republicans to discuss the tax bill.
William Broomfield
A Republican from Michigan's 19th District
(area northwest of Detroit including Pontiac) -
is serving his 13th term. He is the ranking
member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee
and also serves on the Small Business Commit-
tee. Broomfield is undecided on his support
of the tax bill. He has indicated no specific
objections to the package. He met with the
President to discuss the tax package on
August 12. The Congressman was the principal
sponsor of the Administration-backed nuclear
arms resolution which recently passed the
House.
Arlen Erdahl
A Republican from Minnesota's 1st District
(southeastern) -- is serving his 2nd term.
He currently is leaning in favor of the
tax bill. He has expressed concern over the
dividend withholding provision. Erdahl met
with the President on August 12 to discuss
the tax package. He is a member of the
Education and Labor and Foreign Affairs Com-
mittees.
Sid Morrison
A freshman Republican from Washington's
Fourth District (central part of state) --
is a member of the House Agriculture Com-
mittee and is the Freshman Class represen-
tative to the Republican Whip organization.
He has been a strong and consistent sup-
porter of Administration initiatives. On
the tax issue, Sid presently is reported
to be "undecided", but he would like to
support the President.
Ed Madigan
A fifth term Republican from Illinois'
Twenty-first District (central part of
state) is a member of the House Energy
and Commerce Committee and Chairman of
the House Republican Research Committee.
He has been a strong and consistent sup-
porter of Administration initiatives in
the House; and he presently is reported
to be a "firm yes" on the tax bill. In
an August 9, 1982 meeting with the
President on the tax issue, Ed related
that he explained the need for the tax
bill to his constituents on deficit and
interest rate reduction grounds. The
President has borrowed this approach in
at least three meetings with Members of
Congress since that date.
Joel Pritchard
Represents Washington's First District,
which includes Seattle. He is a member
of the Foreign Affairs Committee and the
Merchant Marine and Fisheries Committee.
Joel is leaning towards voting for the
tax conference report.
Bill Goodling
Republican from Pennsylvania's 19th District
(south central Pennsylvania) -- is serving
his 4th term. He is uncommitted on the tax
bill. In initial conversationson the legis-
lation, the Congressman was interested in the
provision which would have Federal employees
contribute to Medicare/Medicaid. He was part
of a group meeting with the President on
August 6 in which they discussed the tax
package. Goodling is a member of the Education
and Labor and Foreign Affairs Committees.
Michael (Mike) Oxley
A freshman from Findlay in Ohio's
4th district. He is a member of
the Government Operations Committee
and the Select Committee on
Narcotics Abuse and Control.
Mike is a strong and consistent
supporter of your economic recovery
program, and wants to help you by
voting for the conference report.
You met with Mike to discuss the
tax conference report on August 10
with other selected Republicans and
on Friday, August 13 with Bill
Emerson (R-Missouri)
Margaret (Marge) Roukema
A freshman from New Jersey's 7th
district that includes Ridgewood.
Because of redistricting, she
picks up large parts of Jim Courter's
(R-NJ) current district. Marge is a
member of the House Banking Committee
and the Education and Labor Committee.
Marge is leaning towards voting for
the conference report.
Wayne Grisham
Represents California's 33rd district.
Because of redistricting, Wayne found
himself in a primary with freshman
David Dreier and lost. He is a 2nd
term Member who serves on the Post
Office and Civil Service Committee
and the Public Works and Transporta-
tion Committee. He attended your
meeting with the California delegation
Republicans the week before last.
Wayne, who is a strong and consistent
supporter of your initiatives, will
vote for the conference report.
Manuel Lujan
Serving his 7th term as a Member from
New Mexico's 1st district, which
includes Albuquerque. Manuel is
ranking member of the House Interior
and Insular Affairs Committee. He
also serves on the Science and
Technology Committee.
A consistent and strong supporter
of your legislative proposals,
Manuel will vote for the tax
conference report. Manuel participated
in a meeting on this with you on
August 9.
Joe Skeen
New Mexico's 2nd district freshman.
He is a member of the Agriculture and
Science and Technology committees.
Joe is a strong and consistent
supporter of your domestic and
international initiatives. He is
leaning strongly towards voting for
the tax conference report. You met
with Joe and other selected
Republicans on August 10 to discuss
the tax conference.
Dan Marriott
Represents Utah's 2nd district, which
includes Salt Lake City. Dan, a 3rd
term Member, serves on the Interior
and Insular Affairs Committee and the
Small Business Committee.
He is a consistent supporter of your
economic recovery efforts and he has
indicated that although he has
reservations about some of the tax
items, he will vote for the conference
report.
You met with Dan and other selected
Republicans on August 9 to discuss
the tax conference.
George O'Brien
A Republican from Illinois' 17th
District which includes the southern
edge of Chicago and the farmland of
central Illinois. Mr. O'Brien is
serving his fifth term in the House
and is the twelfth ranking Republican
on the Appropriations Committee. The
Congressman met with the President on
August 6 and August 13 to talk about
the tax package. He is leaning strongly
in favor of the tax bill conference
report.
Gerry Solomon
A Republican from the 29th District of
New York which includes Saratoga County.
Mr. Solomon is serving his second term
and sits on the Public Works and Trans-
portation and Veterans Affairs Committees.
Mr. Solomon has met with the President to
discuss the tax bill. However, he is
leaning strongly against the conference
report because he is philosophically
opposed to tax increases and wants to see
spending cuts enacted first.
Lyle Williams
A Republican from the 19th District of
Ohio which is one of the most heavily
industralized areas of the nation. Mr.
Williams is serving his second term and
sits on the Government Operations and
Small Business Committees. He is leaning
strongly in favor of the tax bill but
would like to see an extension of un-
employment insurance benefits added to
the package before committing.
Bill Carney
A Republican representing the 1st District
of New York which includes the eastern
end of Long Island. Mr. Carney is serving
his second term and sits on the Merchant
Marine & Fisheries and Science & Tech-
nology Committees. Mr. Carney is strongly
leaning against the tax bill because of
the provision requiring federal employees
to pay the Medicare tax. Mr. Carney was
an original co-sponsor of the nuclear
freeze resolution which the President
endorsed and he worked extremely hard to
secure its passage.
Carroll Campbell
A Republican from South Carolina's Fourth
District (northwestern part of state) --
is serving in his second term. He is a
member of the House Appropriations Commit-
tee, and he has been an active member of
the President's "Core Group." Carroll is
reported to be "undecided" on the recon-
ciliation tax bill; and he has expressed
particular concern on the tobacco issue.
Carroll has met with the President to
discuss the tax bill on August 11, and
August 12, 1982.
John Paul Hammerschmidt
A Republican from Arkansas' Third District
(northwestern part of state) --is serving
in his eighth term. He is a member of
the House Public Works and Transportation
Committee and he is the Ranking Republican
Member of the House Veterans Affairs Com-
mittee. John Paul has supported most
elements of the economic recovery program;
but he has been under some pressure from
constituents and fellow Congressman Ed
Bethune (R-Arkansas) not to support the
reconciliation tax bill. He presently
is reported to be "undecided" on the bill.
He met with the President on August 6, and
the Vice President on August 11, 1982 to
discuss this issue.
Joe McDade
A Republican from Pennsylvania's Tenth
District (northeastern part of state) --
is serving in his tenth term. He is the
Ranking Republican Member of the House
Small Business Committee and he is the
second Ranking Republican on the House
Appropriations Committee. Joe met with
the President to discuss the reconciliation
tax bill on August 10 and August 12, 1982.
He presently is reported to be "leaning
for" the measure.
Bill Whitehurst
A Republican from Virginia's Second
District (Norfolk and Virginia Beach) --
is serving in his seventh term. He is
a member of the House Armed Services
Committee and is Ranking Republican
Member of the Armed Services Subcommittee
on Readiness. Bill has been a strong and
consistent supporter of the economic
recovery program; and he is reported to
be a "firm yes" on the reconciliation
tax bill.
Jim Courter
A Republican from New Jersey's Thirteenth
District (northwestern part of state) --
is President of the Republican Sophmore
Class in the House. He serves on the
House Armed Services Committee and the
House Committee on Post Office and Civil
Service. He also has been an active
member of the House Republican Whip
organization. Jim has been a strong and
consistent supporter of the economic
recovery program; but he is reported to
be "leaning against" the reconciliation
tax bill on general philosophical grounds.
Courter met with the President on August
5, 1982 to discuss the tax bill. He is
the only Republican to be formally endorsed
by the President in a Congressional primary
campaign this year.
Hal Rogers
A Republican from Kentucky's Fifth
District (southeastern part of state) --
is serving in his first term. He is a
member of the House Energy and Commerce
Committee. Hal generally has been sup-
portive of the economic recovery program.
However, he is reported to be "leaning
against" the reconciliation tax bill
because of the tobacco provisions.
THE WHITE HOUSE
WAEHINGTON
August 14, 1982
NOTE FOR DAVE FISCHER
FROM:
KATHY REID
DICK DARMAN'S OFFICE
Attached, from Ken Duberstein's office, should be attached
to their briefing paper for Sunday. Congressman Shaw is
the only additional participant.
Clay Shaw
A Republican who represents the 12th
District and is serving his first term in
the House. He sits on the Public Works
and Transportation and Merchant Marine and
Fisheries Committees. Mr. Shaw's district
includes the towns of Fort Lauderdale and
Hollywood. The Congressman is moving
towards supporting the tax bill and has
not indicated any specific objections to
the legislation. He has met with the
President on August 13th to discuss
the legislation.