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- 3 - recommendations which we make relative to changing the physical characteristic para- graph in these specifications will be adopted. I spent several hours with Mr. Hart and attempted with success to bring his department into closer touch with W. E. Dorrey, Bureau of Standards. Inasmuch as Mr. Hart does not wish to appear to be anything but neutral in this matter, he has requested that we forward him a letter out- lining the changes we desire in order that he may have it as a matter of record to show cause why he changed these specifications, provided such a question should arise. I have to report a very cordial and open minded attitude on the part of Mr. Hart and we can depend upon him to assist us in any way that he can consistently. Mr. Hart referred me with regard to specifications for the Aviation to BUREAU ÒF NAVIGATION, WASHINGTON, D. C. (Room 3614) This department referred me to Bureau of Crdnance - Lieut. Commander Stott, with whom & talked and had a satisfactory interview but of no immediate pertinent advantage. BUREAU OF STANDARDS. W. E. Dorsey, (Telephone "leveland 1720-Washington, D.C.) radium and luminous material expert, is an authority who is in sccord with our ideas on what luminous material should be and a scientist whose opinion ie respected, and should be our pivot upon securing scientific endorsement for any suggestions which we have to offer for Government Repartments. Among other things that he stated and which should be a matter of record, the following are pertinent: Experiments which he has carried on ith various diale show that luminous material is not injured in any way by either ultra-violet ray, sunlight or daylight, and that a dial exposed immediately in front of° a quart lamp for a week at a. time shows no diminution in luminosity as compared with a dis. kept in absolute darknoss. Either he is incorroct or 8. fallacy is being promulgated in yhis matter. The brightness of an applied material varies directly in proportion to the thicknessup to 1/2 millimeter. Any application of greater thickness than this is not necessary One micro lambert equals .318 nill-candles per square centimeter. Experiments which he carried on several years ago show that Radium Pial, Cold Hight and our own naterial decreased in luminosity s.t practically the same rate, the difference being so slight that he did not care to make it a matter of record. Dr. Dorsey wishes it understood that his experiments were interrupted by the War and that he is now not up to date on any of his experiments in this ditter. He claims that eneither he or anyone that he knows of has been able to break down zine sulphide by artificial means for longevity of the material by means of a laboratory test. Dr. Porsey has never seen a material which will hold its own or grow in luminosity after the first month. (Material of this sort UI. Sochocky tells me today that he will send to Dr. Dorsey at an early date). This will be very valuable from our point of view. Dr. Dorsey ha.e a professional pride in his opinions on lumin- ous material and he has contended against much opposition for many years that the use of mesothorium in luminous material is justifiable, so that provided we care to use this material we could not only count upon Dr. Forsey's ordinary cooperation due to his acquaintance with us, but also to the gratification of his professional vanity in this matter. Dr. Dorsey's appropriation has been severely cut and he is very

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