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from both the Department and people investigating this matter, which should serve as a solution to the problem. I explained to Dr. S., that we had endeavored to be very frank in giving to people, whom we felt were entitled to information, a true picture to the best of our knowledge. However, we admited that we could not definitely state what had happened during the interim of 1917 to 21, as sone of the people connected with us in the manufacture of our luminous compound were not now available. Dr. S. seened to think that it would be very important if we could establish exactly what had happened during this period of time. We discussed at considerable length the investigational work by the Drinkers, Flinn etc. and I pointed out that we were inclined to supress the Drinker report, due to the fact that we felt it was incomplete, and should not be published until the cases in litigation were settled. I told him that we had Theen advised by Dr. Flinn that through his investigations up to such time as he examined a Mãos Dunn from Waterbury, he had not found a single girl suffering from a condition similar to that reported. Dr. S. countered with the fact that regardless of what Dr. Flinn had deter- mined we had thege cases to confront us, and must not lose sicht of the fact that they actually existed. I told Dr. S. that while naturally we did not admit that luminous material may have been the cause of these conditions, still we were not in a position to entirely deny it, but that our position is that we do not foel particularly responsible for these cases as we foel that we acted in accordance with the best information that was available at that time. This was a point upon which Dr. S. was very cagy, and I felt for a time that I would be onable to get a commital from him. However, by putting the question in a somewhat different manner, that is whether or not we wore criminally megligent, due to our methods of operation at this period, he definitely stated that he felt we vere not, and that he bolieved the Labor Department would back us in this contention. While Dr. S. was extremely cautious in his statement,still at the same time his was very friendly in his attitude, and upon ascertaining some- what more in detail what my mission was he opened up fairly woll, and gave considerable general information. He stated that the Labor Depart- ment had several requests from abroad asking for details of the law status involved in these types of cases in the State of N.J., and that the Labor Department had refused to give any information on this subject, except such data of a statistical nature as they had compiled. He stated that they had never called the attention of inquirers to the Drinicer article or any of the other published articles on this subject. He felt that in view of the fact that all these cases had not been definite- ly settled, and that the cause had not been definitely established, there was little use in circulating information now at their disposal. Dr. S. stated that the Labor Department had tried to be just to us in this matter as well as to our employees, and that they would endeavor to function as such giving us their best cooperation so far as was within their power. hHBarker:RH

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