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report's original figure was $68,900 -- was this $20,700 check written
in February of 1982. Along with that were $1,500 in interest payments.
Now, what happened when Jim McDougal stated on ABC News that he
didn't believe that was Whitewater related was that we began to
investigate. The President was in the process of editing his mother's
memoir or book, and one of the things she described in there was how he
had helped her purchase a house outside of Hot Springs on Lake Hamilton.
It was that that jogged his recollection. We very shortly thereafter
were able to get bank documents that established there had indeed been,
as McDougal recalled, a $20,000 loan taken out by Bill Clinton in May of
1981, and repaid in February of 1982.
Now, the Clintons believed at the time that that was Whitewater
related. It was a 10-year-old check. It was to the same bank that they
had another loan -- this is complicated, but let me -- in order to
understand how they could have believed this to be Whitewater related,
I've got to tell another story about the aptly named Lot 13 transaction.
The recession had hit, sales were slow. In 1980, Jim McDougal
wanted to put up a demonstrator house at Whitewater Estates to show how
a cabin or a house there would look. He asked Hillary Clinton to borrow
$30,000 from, as it then was, the Bank of Kingston, so that the company
could put up a lot and then the company would sell the house and the lot
-- put up a house on it. The company would sell the house and the lot.
All this happened. She borrowed the money. The company erected
the house. She took title to the property, but within a year the
company sold on an escrow contract that Lot 13 and the house. Now, that
left her an obligor on the $30,000 note and without any asset to back it
up. But the arrangement was that the owner, the buyer, would continue
to pay down that loan of $30,000. In overtime it would be paid out.
As luck would have it, the buyer, Hillman Logan, went bankrupt
sometime in the mid-1980s. The lot and the house on Lot 13 became an
asset of the bankruptcy estate and the Clintons, in 1987 or 1988, had to
go in and buy out that -- because the later payments, you see, interest
payments, beginning in '86, are not interest payments on the two loans I
just described, but rather on the third loan from Madison Bank and
Trust. It had been moved to another bank in later years.
They were able, however -- they had to make payments in '86,
'87, and '88, when the bankrupt couldn't make the payments. They were
able, though to buy the property out on a quick claim duty for $8,000,
turn around and sell it in 1988 for -- (inaudible) --treated that as a
Whitewater profit, although, again, it was the result of a Whitewater
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