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    "ocrText": "- 5 -\nSENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Well, they give us an\naddress, and the majority of them have attorneys of record and are\nprocesses that we either send a notice to appear or all the\ninformation would go either to the address they provide us or the\nattorney of record.\nSENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Remember, all of these\npeople have come forward voluntarily. These people have all chosen\nto present themselves to the U.S. government to change status. So in\nthis case, there's less of a presumption that they would be\nunavailable than in cases at ports of entry where they simply come\nin, present themselves, ask for asylum, are reviewed. If they're\nreleased into society, that may not --\nQ\n-- do you have any idea how many of those there\nare?\nSENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: I can give you the\nfigure, for example, for New York City. Through March of this year\nwe had 15,000 malified entries through New York City --\nQ\nFrom --\nSENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: -- from all over the\nworld. People --\nQ\nWhat about the time frame -- you said --\nSENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: I'm sorry. From\nSeptember I'm speaking of fiscal years now. October 1 of last\nyear through the end of March of this year. About 10,000 of those\nhave applied for asylum in the judge process.\nQ\nIn New York alone?\nSENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: This is New York alone.\nQ\nOne of the reasons -- the main reason my\nrecollection is why this sort of four-step process has evolved over\nthe years was there are just too many of these for everyone to be\nheard by someone at the level of basically administrative law judge\nsort of person.\nBut the sense was that having them all go before someone\nwho was less trained and less judicial would not provide a fair\nhearing, so you had to have a multi-step process. How are you going\nto -- as you try to streamline this, how are you going to avoid\neither creating a process that's basically just a sham to shove them\nout the door, or, on the other hand, try to set up a judicial process\nthat will be swamped overnight? I mean, that's been the puzzle all\nalong. How are you going to solve this thing?\nSENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Well, that part we have\nto decide which way to go. It may be that in our affirmative asylum\nsystem the hearing somebody has is a full adversarial hearing before\nan immigration judge. But that alone will have saved us a very\nsignificant step of going first before an asylum officer. On the\nother hand, in our expedited exclusion procedures, we feel very\nconfident in the skills and sensitivities that our asylum corps\nofficers are bringing to these interviews. I think the goal is to\nfind one good hearing before one properly trained person and to make\nthe system work from there.\nQ\nOn that point --\nQ\nIf the plan announced today would take some of\nthese asylum officers to do these exclusion hearings, wouldn't that\nthen increase the backlog in the affirmative program?\nMORE"
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