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SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: As I said, if there is
some equity that they may gain through the family, then they --
Q
What do you mean by that?
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Well, their marriage to
a U.S. citizen or some other reasons why they can't stay under the
Immigration Act; and that equity would, of course, take place. There
is no change contemplated on that. If the family desires to depart
with the deportee, then, of course, they will do that also.
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: This program is helpful
because normally what happens is someone gets released from prison;
and if they are subject to deportation, they get placed in INS
detention, which is very costly, and they wait there to have their
deportation hearing. This, again, is a procedure that will allow us
to more quickly process people's immigration claims.
Q
This was not just a response to the World Trade
Center bombing, obviously, but there was concern about the migrant
ships. And with most recently off of Ensenada, we've seen sort of a
diplomatic standoff surrounding all of this. How would the next
three ships that come over the horizon and sort of idle in waters in
international waters off Baja, how will they be handled differently
under this legislation and under this administrative plan?
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: Well, if the
legislation were to pass, it would give us an option that we don't
have currently for dealing with these boats.
Q
Go out and seize them?
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: If the legislation were
to pass, we would have an authority if the circumstances suggested
that it was appropriate to do so, to use the new procedures in the
legislation.
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: But the presumption
here is that the old policy that was announced on the 18th of June
would prevail which is that we would seek to keep them outside of the
United States if that were at all possible.
Q
Do you have an agreement with Mexico so you don't
go through this business again?
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: We have discussed this
with Mexico in that instance, and those discussions will continue in
terms --
Q
So you don't have an agreement?
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: We wouldn't necessarily
expect a permanent agreement with any individual country on things
that have to be decided on a case-by-case basis.
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL: And the State
Department is beginning conversations with a number of countries
which might be countries where these ships would go first. But as
Phil said, if the initiative is passed, then it won't be so important
that they be -- that we have the cooperation of other countries,
because we will have the tools we need to exclude those people who
don't have good claims for asylum in our own country, which we do not
have now.
Q
I have a question on the flagged ships, because
most of these illegals are coming in ships that are flagged by
countries that have nothing to do with the illegals coming in. Are
you contemplating any penalty for the countries that flag these
ships?
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