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Book 547
July 5 - 7, - 1942
- A -
Book Page
Airplanes
For autographs, see Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds
Shipments to British Forces - Kamarck report - - 7/6/42.
547
166
Alcohol
Cuban and Mexican alcohol:
Irey report - 7/7/42
281
Rosenman action reviewed in Irey memorandum -
7/9/42: See Book 548, page 198
Alcohol Tax Unit
Movement to Fresno discussed by Congressman Gearhart
and HMJr - - 7/6/42.
78
a) Sullivan's report
82
(See also Book 552, page 112)
Alien Property Custodian
Amended Executive Order issued July 6, 1942
92
a) Rosenman and HMJr discuss
89
b) Duffield-HMr conversation - 7/7/42
267
Allied Record Manufacturing Company
Procurement award discussed in Mack memorandum - 7/6/42.
139
Amalgamated Sugar Company
Office of Price Administration accuses in connection
with sugar rationing - 7/6/42
153
American Heroes Day
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds
Appointments and Resignations
Mack, Clifton E. (Director of Procurement): Transfer
to position of Chief Procurement Officer for Army Air
Corps at Wright Field, Dayton, Chio, discussed by
HMJr, Bell, Graves, and Thompson 7/6/42
66
a) Mack declines job - 7/8/42: Book 548, page 103
Argentina
See Latin America
- B -
Bank of America
New branch for Los. Angeles rejected for third time -
7/6/42
140
Bioff, William
See Tax Evasion
Business Conditions
Haas memorandum on situation, week ending July 4, 1942 -
7/6/42
141
- C -
Cuba
See Latin America
- D -
Book Page
Davis, Elmer (Office of War Information)
See Financing, Government
Debt Moratorium
See Revenue Revision
Deferments, Military
Foley, Edward H., Jr.: Attitude discussed by HMJr and
Greenbaum - 7/7/42
547
205
a) Letter from Draft Board explaining Foley
status - 7/16/42: See Book 550, page 26
Duffield, Bugene S. (Wall Street Journal)
HMJr discusses with Duffield Alien Property decision -
7/7/42
267
- F -
Financing, Government
$2 billion announced; 2½ to be reopened late in July
or early in August for August financing: Bell discusses
possibility of 2 issues-a note and a bond--at
conference of representatives of Treasury and Federal
Reserve - 7/6/42
5
a) HMJr-Rouse conversation
11,76,83
b) Calendar of direct and guaranteed bonds, notes,
and certificates, as of July 1, 1942.
22
c) Treasury bills, June 17 and June 24, July 1
and 8
29
d) HMJr checks with Early on Army and Navy
situation
30
e) Elmer Davis-HMJr conversation.
35
f) Recommendations of Discount Corporation, Devine,
etc. - 7/7/42
207
g) Conference; present: HMJr, Bell, Haas, Buffington,
Murphy, Baker, and Mills - 7/7/42
212
1) Conversation with Rouse
213
2) Murphy recommends single 2% issue
221
3) Mills recommends 24% issue
225
4) Miss Tully asked to make appointment with
FDR before telegrams go out
228
5) Edward 1. Brown-HMJr conversation
231
h) Federal Reserve group joins Treasury group
235
1) Rouse-HMJr conversation
238,243
1) $2 billion cash subscription, 2% Treasury Bonde,
1949-51, authorized by FDR
252
1) Federal Reserve Banks informed
253
J) Rouse-HMJr conversation on reception of issue -
7/8/42: Book 548, pages 24, 30, 44, 80, 151, and 155
k) Closing of subscription books - - 7/9/42: Book 548,
page 128
1) Setting of pattern: 7-9 years, 2%, for short-term
money, and 20 years and over, 2%, for long-term
money explained to 9:30 group by HMJr - 7/10/42:
Book 548, page 222
m) Subscription figures and basis of allotment - 7/11/42:
Book 549, pages 1 and 281
n) 200 largest banks - subscriptions - - 7/20/42:
Book 551, page 151
- P - - (Continued)
Book Page
Financing, Government (Continued)
War Savings Bonds:
HMJr's future trips for awards, etc., discussed by
HMJr, Graves, Kuhn, Gamble, and Odegard - 7/6/42
547
38
(See also Poughkeepsie rally: Book 546)
Heroes (American) Day, July 17, 1942:
Cities participating.
111
a) Retail leader for each community discussed in
Gamble memorandum
112
b) Special radio programs
115
c) Harriet Elliott memorandum
274
d) Cities participating - 7/15/42: See Book 549,
page 282
e) Report on progress of plans - 7/17/42:
Book 550, page 249
f) Reports from State Administrators and local
Retail Chairmen on progress - 7/20/42:
Book 551, page 166
Autographing of Airplanes: Kuhn memorandum - 7/6/42.
116
Payroll Savings Plan: Railroad participation reported
by Houghteling - 7/6/42
118
Sales for first 5 days of May, June, and July, 1942 -
7/6/42
127
Foley, Edward H., Jr.
See Deferments, Military
- G -
Gaston, Herbert E.
Arrangements for work during absence in Minneapolis -
7/6/42
102
Gearhart, Bertrand W. (Congressman, California)
See Alcohol Tax Unit
Gold
See Latin America: Cuba
# U.S.S.R.
- H -
Heroes (American) Day, July 17, 1942
See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds
Hopkins, Harry
HMJr congratulates on engagement - 7/5/42
2
- I -
Inflation
See Revenue Revenue: Debt Moratorium
- J -
Japan
For Tokyo raid, see Speeches by HMJr
Inclassifind
- L -
Book Page
Latin America
Argentina: Control measures taken supplementing those
taken by United States over dollar notes - 7/6/42.
547
173
Cuba:
See also Alcohol
Gold Agreement signed - 7/6/42.
172
Mexico: See Alcohol
Lend-Lease
Dollar Relief on British Contracts: White drafts two
letters to Chancellor of the Exchequer - 7/6/42
157
- -
Mack, Clifton E. (Director of Procurement)
See Appointments and Resignations
Mexico
See Alcohol
Military Reports
British operations - - 7/5/42, etc.
3,201,287
Kamarck summaries - 7/6-7/42
203,288
- P -
Procurement Division
Discussion of reassignment of functions by HMJr, Bell,
Graves, and Thompson in connection with possible
reassignment of Mack - 7/6/42
66
- R -
Revenue Revision
Repayment of debts under high tax rates: Treasury
position discussed by Ransom and HMJr - 7/6/42
131
(See also Book 548, page 75)
a) Kuhn-HMJr conversation: Book 548, page 77
b) Treasury release: Book 548, page 78
c) Ransom's letter of appreciation: Book 548, page 79
d) Blough memorandum on deducting from net income
not to exceed $1000 for debt repayment - 6/30/42:
Book 555, page 221
Rosenman, Samuel - Judge
Joke about a bird and a man - 7/7/42
271
- S -
Sauter, James E.
Auditor for RCA account Graves' report on earnings for
1938 and 1939 - 7/6/42
136
- S - (Continued)
Book Page
Speeches by HMJr
Talk at Walter Reed Hospital when soldiers participating
with General Doolittle in raid over Japan were
decorated - 7/6/42
547
53,63
a) Presentation ceremony
55
1) HMJr describes to Bell, Graves, and
Thompson
66
Stabilization Fund
Report for May and June, 1942 - 7/7/42
280
Sugar
See Amalgamated Sugar Company
- T -
Tax Evasion
Bioff, William: Status of case reported by Helvering -
7/6/42
134
Taxation
See Revenue Revision
Tokyo Raid
See Speeches by HMJr
- U -
U.S.S.R.
Gold Purchase Agreement: Review of situation since
signing on January 3, 1942 - 7/6/42
170
United States flyers in Russia discussed by HMJr and
General Doolittle - - 7/7/42
261
United Kingdom
See Lend-Lease
- W -
War Savings Bonds
See Financing, Government
Treasury Department
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TELEGRAPH OFFICE
COPY
WUE25 36 NT GOVT COLLECT
TOWD BEACON NY JUL 5 1942
1942 JUL 6 AM 8 38
HOROLD GRAVES, DLR 830A
OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
I SUGGEST THAT FOR THE WEEK PREVIOUS TO JULY 17TH THE
TREASURY STAR PARADE BE DEVOTED TO BOOSTING THE RETAIL
STORES SALES ON JULY 17TH PLEASE SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THIS.
COPY TO MRS KLOTZ
HENRY MORGENTHAU JR
834A JUL 6.
Regraded Unclassified
y
Treasury Department
1
TELEGRAPH OFFICE
COPY
WUE25 36 NT GOVT COLLECT
TDWD BEACON NY NIL 5 1942
1942 JUL 6 AM 8 38
HOROLD GRAVES, DLR 830A
OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
I SUGGEST THAT FOR THE WEEK PREVIOUS TO JULY 17TH THE
TREASURY STAR PARADE BE DEVOTED TO BOOSTING THE RETAIL
STORES SALES ON JULY 17TH PLEASE SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THIS.
COPY TO MRS KLOTZ
HENRY MORGENTHAU JR
834A JUL 6.
Regraded Unclassified
2
July 15, 1942
Telegram of congratulations sent from the Farm.
me Harry H of kins 7-5-42
20 hite House
Wash,
Our very heartiest
cang atulations
and best. wish
on you engagement.
Hope we will have
meetin g your finance
the pleasure of
dine with us inther
say som. you both
Wed. a Thurs day
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COPY NO.
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BRITISH MOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET
OPTEL No. 229
Information received up to 7 A.M., 5th July, 1942.
1. NAVAL
4th. Outward convoy to RUSSIA was attacked by aircraft in the early
morning north of BEAR ISLAND and a United States ship (7,000 tons) was torpedoed
and later sunk by our forces. In the evening, owing to threat from enemy surface
ships, the convoy was ordered to scatter and make for Russian ports.
2. MILITARY
EGYPT. 3rd. In the morning, enemy forces, mostly Italian, supported
by tanks and artillery, advanced southwards in the direction of BAB EL QATTARA.
attack was repulsed by the New Zealand Division who captured 28 guns, 300 prisoners
and 100 mechanical transport. In the afternoon, an attack, strongly supported by
field and medium artillery and with 40 German tanks, developed upon our positions
south of EL ALAMEIN. United Kingdom First Armoured Division, supported by artillery
destroyed 3 tanks and forced the enemy to withdraw. During the course of the day,
we probably destroyed a total of 24 tanks. Captured or destroyed 4 enemy field
and medium guns, besides about 40 medium machine guns, and took about 300 prisoners,
mostly Italian. Operations were supported throughout by an outstanding effort by
the Royal Air Force.
On the morning of the 4th, a movement of enemy tanks in the direction
of EL ALAMEIN was being engaged by our forces.
RUSSIA. The German offensive in the KURSK sector is making progress.
3. AIR OPERATIONS
WESTERN FRONT. 4th. Twelve Bostons, 6 of them manned by United
States crews, attacked three aeredromes in HOLLAND. Three aircraft are missing, two
of them U.S. manned.
EGYPT. 3rd. Our air activity was continuous and involved 155
Bomber and 524 Fighter sorties. During offensive patrols over the battle area, our
Fighters intercepted three escorted dive-bomber attacks, shooting down 15 Junkers
87 (probably destroying four others) and eight Fighters (probably destroying three
others), & further 14 enemy aircraft were damaged. Our losses were twelve Fighters,
three Pilots safe. Five more enemy aircraft were destroyed and six damaged on the
ground at SIDI BARRANI.
3rd/4th. About 100 bombers attacked enemy concentrations in the
battle area.
Regraded Unclassified
- 2 -
MEDITERRANEAN. Eleven aircraft attacked a heavily escorted south-
bound convoy in SOUTH IONIAN SEA. Two hits are claimed and several near misses.
MALTA. Between 3.30 p.m. 3rd and 1. p.m. 4th 42 enemy aircraft
attacked. TAKALI Aerodrome was rendered temporarily unserviceable and the signals
maintenance section at LUQA was destroyed. Five enemy aircraft were shot down.
4. GERMAN AIR FORCE
Bombers in SICILY have been increased to 130 by the arrival of about
45 Junkers 88 from Western Europe and may further increase by another 20 during
next week.
5. GERMANY
The Reichsstatthalter of HAMBURG has been appointed Reich Commis-
sioner for sea shipping and given unlimited powers for the regulation of sea trans-
port, administration of ports and merchant shipping. He immediately proclaimed a
state of emergency in all German ports. This appointment is presumably due to
German shipping losses.
6. BALKANS.
Passenger traffic was resumed between BULGARIA and TURKEY on the
17th June over the re-opened MARITSA BRIDGE. There is no indication that goods
traffic has yet been resumed, and it appears that the Turks will not allow their
wagons to cross the frontier, thus necessitating reloading.
5
July 6, 1942
11:00 a.m.
FINANCING
Present: Mr. Bell
Mr. Buffington
Mr. Haas
Mr. Murphy
Mr. Baker
Mr. Piser
Mr. Mills
Mr. McKee
Mr. Ransom
Mr. Szymczak
H.M.JR: Well, Dan, how does the situation look
this morning?
MR. BELL: Well, I guess you noticed we announced
that it would be two billion dollars and that we would
reopen the two and a half's late in July or the first
part of August for the August financing.
We have discussed it a little in our office, and
I think it is a question of whether we want a two for
the entire amount or between the two and a note. There
is some feeling that we ought to have a two and an eighth.
I just talked to Bob Rouse, and he feels that a two
percent bond will go for the entire amount, although
I don't think he would feel badly about it if there were
two issues, a note and a bond.
H.M.JR: Has somebody got - show me my spaces,
George.
(Mr. Haas handed a chart to the Secretary.)
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MR. BELL: I have got one.
(Mr. Bell handed a chart to the Secretary.)
MR. BELL: Two, '49-'51, would fall here. That
is the call date; this is the maturity date (indicating
on chart), and you see--
H.M.JR: When was the last two we got out?
MR. BELL: That was this one, September. This
would go to December.
H.M.JR: That is pretty close, isn't it?
MR. BELL: Yes, but you would have three of them,
June, September, and December.
H.M.JR: All twos?
MR. BELL: All twos, yes, sir. Now, we have got
a two '51-'55, haven't we - yes, small amounts. That
is '49-'51. This is the year, and that is just put
there to show the maturity date (indicating).
H.M.JR: How does that show up here (indicating on
Mr. Haas' chart)
MR. BELL: That is the June, and here is the Sep-
tember and the December, two callable issues, the
three and an eighth, and the two and a half, '49-'52.
H.M.JR: This would put another one where?
MR. BELL: This would put another one right there
(indicating).
MR. BELL: And you would have this period, December,
June, call it there. Your note issue would probably
fall--
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H.M.JR: Are they talking about a note issue, too?
MR. BELL: If you have a note issue, too, one
and a quarter percent, it probably would fall here
(indicating).
H.M.JR: If we don't fill this space this time,
we will be filling it sometime.
MR. McKEE: If you don't fill it now, you are not
going to fill it, because you are going to lose your
length of maturity. I think you had better take it
when you can get it.
MR. SZYMCZAK: You mean on the two percent?
MR. McKEE: Yes.
H.M.JR: It makes a kind of a pattern.
MR. SZYMCZAK: That is right.
MR. BELL: I think Bob Rouse felt this would help
the market to stretch this out, then you would have
three twos right along, running right along, to show
that there was some fluctuation with market as long
as the premium was sixteen thirty-seconds, and that you
stretch it out a little on this in order to lessen that
premium a little.
MR. McKEE: That is helpful to keep them all in
line, isn't it?
MR. BELL: Yes. Now, Baker feels that that two
percent market is a bad market - ought to step out
into the two and an eighth percent market. I would
like to see it go - the boys say you can't stretch it -
to March 15, '50.
MR. SZYMCZAK: On a two and an eighth?
MR. BELL: On a two. That is only three months later.
Regraded Unclassified
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MR. McKEE: We may be able to do that for you in
September.
MR. BELL: That is a vacant space, too, in March
'50.
MR. RANSOM: What is the objection to that, Dan?
MR. BELL: They feel it is a little thin, I think.
Don't you, Henry?
MR. MURPHY: It would be about twelve thirty-seconds,
we feel, a premium of sixteen for December, and it
would knock off about four for March. I think it could
be done.
MR. HAAS: You wouldn't want to make it quite
that thin if you are going to put it all in one, would
you?
MR. RANSOM: Why not, George?
MR. HAAS: Well, the fact - I mean, this would be
the first two-billion-dollar issue, and it would be a
little bit more conservative not to cut your premium
too much. It is only sixteen in December.
MR. McKEE: Personally, I would favor a two,
December, and size, maturity and chronological order
with what you have been doing, you get their minds
fixed on a two percent. I think you are going to gain
momentum in your own behalf, as a pattern of rates.
MR. BELL: Is the Board in favor of all one issue
this morning?
MR. SZYMCZAK: Well, I think the majority is.
MR. McKEE: Marriner told me Saturday that he was
for the two. Did he check with you, Mr. Secretary?
H.M.JR: Not since I have seen him.
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MR. RANSOM: He talked to me, John. He is in
favor of one issue.
MR. SZYMCZAK: A two percent?
MR. RANSOM: Yes.
H.M.JR: Piser, you are very quiet.
MR. PISER: Well, I haven't changed from my views
of the other day for one issue, an issue of two and
an eighth rather than twos.
MR. BELL: You would rather have two and an eighth
than two? Why, do you feel the two percent market is
a little thin?
MR. PISER: That is one reason. Another is the
concentration of call dates where you already have two
and a quarter billion callable, and I think there is a
danger in putting an additional two billion dollars on
that date in that bank now of a substantial amount of
issues that are already callable there, and they may
be a little hesitant to take on more issues. I think
there is also the possibility that the market may
figure that the Treasury will not call the entire four
and a half billion beyond that date and may price the
new issue on the basis of March or June 1950, in which
case it would have a very small premium.
So I think there is a danger in putting the two
percent bond callable on that date.
MR. RANSOM: I think there is a definite advantage
in having as small a premium as you can, however
H.M.JR: I don't think there is certainly a bank
in the country but what will take its limit.
MR. RANSOM: I would make it just as thin as I
could.
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H.M.JR: I don't think there is a bank in the
country but what will take the limit.
MR. McKEE: I agree with that.
H.M.JR: They haven't got an excuse.
MR. McKEE: It is their kind of paper. It is
within the limitations and everything else.
MR. RANSOM: There might be some danger in it,
but I think it is outweighed by the advantage of not
going to two and an eighth.
H.M.JR: Let me see what Rouse says. Have you
talked with Rouse as to when you want to do it?
MR. BELL: No, I did not. I have given some
thought to the suggestion that we announce it - we give
out the terms on Wednesday, announce it on Thursday.
I don't like that very well.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Mr. Rouse, as follows:)
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July 6, 1942.
11:13 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Mr. Rouse.
HMJr:
Hello.
Robert
Rouse:
Good morning, sir.
HMJr:
You're on the loud-speaker. Members of the
Fed. Board are here in the Treasury.
R:
I see.
HMJr:
And I wondered if you'd care to say how you
feel this morning before
R:
Well, I - since I came in this morning, I've
done a little checking. I talked to some of
the dealers
HMJr:
Yes.
R:
and I talked with some of the banks, and I
don't find that the situation 1s any different
than that we discussed on Friday morning.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
There's a variety of opinions of course. In
general, it's - the markets are unchanged and
you get, as I say, a variety of opinions.
Chase - the chap at the Chase suggests that you
might save some money and do a five-year one
and five-eighths. Bob Garner I was talking with
in another matter, and he thought on $2 billion
dollars you should split it, and Hollingsworth
at the Central Hanover - number one suggestion
would be a reopening of the two and a quarters
of fifty-two five at par - and he pointed out at
the same time that there'd be no - nothing with
the limits removed from the subscriptions; that
you didn't accomplish anything by having two
issues. He admitted, however, that you did
accomplish it as something if people were not
forced into a short-term issue. He was thinking
Regraded Unclassified
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R:
in terms of aggregate subscriptions.
(cont.)
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
....and percentage of allotments. So, in
general, it boils down - I think the general
banking opinion here 1s somewhat divided as
between an opening - splitting the issue and
doing the entire $2 billion dollars with one,
and I think they'd be perfectly happy with
either.
HMJr:
Well, I think the majority of the opinion here
is - it isn't unanimous' but the majority 1s
for one $2 billion dollar issue, 2%, December
'49.
R:
Well, I - - Miller and I individually feel that
way here
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
that it would simplify our - our market
problem and would work out perfectly satis-
factorily all around.
HMJr:
Well, supposing you test on that basis, say
R:
Well, I - in each of these three cases, the
three banks I talked to, I did and I - in the
case of the Chase and the Guaranty I think
they'd be - they'd go along with that perfectly
well and be glad to see it. Central Hanover
thought we'd have a few many - too many two's.
They thought a two and an eighth would be a
little more satisfactory if we're going to do
it all with one issue and a new issue.
HMJr:
Well, the point that somebody pointed out here
was that if we wanted to do a two now in
December '49, the time to do it was now.
R:
Yeah. I haven't talked with Chris Devine this
morning. He's not in. He was delayed some-
where, but I did have a talk with him last week
and his feeling then, and I - and nothing has
happened to change it I'm reasonably sure - was
for the two of December fifty-one forty-nine
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HMJr:
Well
R:
....all in one issue. And I got the same thing
this morning from Chicago too.
HMJr:
I'll be talking - will you be there around four-
thirty?
R:
Yes, I'll be here.
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HMJr:
I'll - I'll call you back then.
R:
Fine.
HMJr:
And then you'll know more. Wait a minute.
(Talks aside)
John
McKee:
Has there been any trading in that registered
issue this morning?
R:
I haven't heard. Who's this? John?
M:
Yeah.
R:
No, I haven't heard of any.
M:
Is there any quotations on it?
R:
Well, I know there's at least a par bid. I
have - I have been on the phone ever since
I got in, John, talking with different people -
in respect to this financing
M:
Uh huh.
R:
and I had made sure that there would be
bids available
M:
Uh huh. Well, that's good.
R:
but I didn't - haven't checked to see if
there was any trading. Metropolitan Life was
interested in it, the announcement this morning
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R:
of the Treasury, and wanted to know if it was
(cont.)
official, and I told them I thought they could
rely on it. It was a news release
M:
Uh huh.
R:
which, of course, would affect their sub-
scription to a new issue. But, as far ae any
actual trading, nobody's looking for any to
speak of. It will just be somebody, an odd
individual who might be trying to test it out
to see if there was a market, because the bulk
of the people that bought those bought them to
hold.
M:
Well, you'll watch it today, won't you, Bob?
R:
Yes. Oh, it's being watched closely, I know.
M:
All right.
R:
And if there was anything in it that indicated
either any amount or anything other than par or
a slight premium, I would have heard about it.
M:
Uh huh. All right, Bob.
R:
Fine, John.
M:
Goodbye.
R:
Goodbye.
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H.M.JR: I think he has got to do a little bit
more checking. Don't you think so? Did you say any-
thing, Henry?
MR. MURPHY: No.
H.M.JR: Do you want to say something?
MR. MURPHY: Yes, I have already said it.
H.M.JR: Say it again.
MR. MURPHY: Yes, I would agree with the majority
sentiment here.
H.M.JR: How about you, Dan?
MR. BELL: I think we have got to think a little
more about it, although I think it. is going towards the
two.
H.M.JR: We have got at least all day tomorrow to
think about it. Let's talk a minute, I mean, if we get
the thing settled tomorrow night, your thought was to -
you know, if we put it in the papers, do anything different,
then immediately they criticize us.
MR. BELL: I would like to send it out tomorrow
afternoon if we could make the decision around noon -
send it out tomorrow afternoon for opening Wednesday
morning and leave it open Thursday, Thursday night.
That is what we established the last time. I think it
was well received. I think if we announce the terms
and then say that it is going to be open tomorrow for
one day it looks kind of funny.
H.M.JR: You are saying have it in the newspapers
Wednesday morning open for subscription Wednesday and
Thursday?
MR. BELL: Yes, announce it at that time, it will be
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open two days.
H.M.JR: It gives the people a chance. They can
talk it over and they can't say we are rushing them.
MR. McKEE: Your first release then will be Wednesday
morning?
MR. BELL: Yes.
MR. RANSOM: There is no serious objection to that,
is there?
MR. BELL: It was suggested the other day, Ronald,
that we give out the terms Wednesday morning, and allow
the terms to simmer throughout the banking system
Wednesday, but the books wouldn't be open until Thursday,
then we close Thursday night. It seems to me that if
we are going to announce the terms on Wednesday we might
as well get the advantage of being open on Wednesday, also.
MR. McKEE: The thought on that, Ronald, was the
fact that the big boys wait until the last day, no matter
how long you leave the books open.
MR. RANSOM: It seems to me it has the advantage
of giving everybody a better opportunity than if you
just give it one day.
H.M.JR: I think - take some of the smaller banks,
unless they have - they don't have a Dow-Jones--
MR. RANSOM: They don't work that way, Mr. Secretary.
MR. McKEE: And the fellow that is running a bank
has to go to a funeral in the morning and it is noon
before he gets the mail open, or afternoon. Three o'clock
passes - you get in the west, you know what the time
changes are.
MR. BELL: The last one worked very well, I thought.
H.M.JR: Can we use the Victory Fund Committees on
this, Dan?
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MR. BELL: We can, but I don't know where they
sell the bonds. Do you, George?
MR. BUFFINGTON: No, they might increase the
distribution a little bit in some of the banks that
Mr. McKee is speaking of who haven't been accustomed
to operating quickly in getting to these one-day
offerings.
H.M.JR: My inclination - I think that it would
kind of gum the works up. I don't think it will be
fair to them, just irritate them to have a lot of
people calling them up. I think he would rather
wait until we open this tap issue now.
MR. McKEE: I would see no harm in it as 8 matter
of advising them what this issue is and keeping them
up to date with the Treasury's program. I don't know--
MR. SZYMCZAK: You mean just letting them know?
MR. McKEE: Putting them on the mailing list of
the Federal Reserve Banks.
MR. RANSOM: Mr. Secretary, I am a little bit
out of touch with that committee and what it is supposed
to do, but it doesn't seem to me from anything I have
understood that that is what it was supposed to do. I
think if you project that into it you may cause more
confusion than otherwise would be the case.
H.M.JR: But you are here to talk things over.
I wanted to raise the point.
MR. RANSOM: I see no objection, as John suggests,
to putting them on the mailing list, but most of them are
on the mailing list anyhow.
H.M.JR: Then he does know.
MR. MURPHY: Would you want the issue open a third
day for twenty-five thousand dollar allotments?
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H.M.JR: No, two days is enough.
George, you think it over. You let me know
what you want to do with your boys to keep them
happy. Are they on the mailing lists?
MR. BUFFINGTON: All these members will get all
mailings from the Fed.
MR. McKEE: Have they been circulated on the information
released as to the open-end issue coming out again?
MR. BUFFINGTON: No, they have not.
MR. BELL: That was just announced this morning.
MR. McKEE: I think that would be a good thing to
get to them all.
MR. RANSOM: That was announced this morning, Dan?
MR. BELL: Yes.
H.M.JR: Eccles was anxious that they do that.
MR. McKEE: I would give them that information.
MR. BUFFINGTON: If that two and a half is opened
later this month with the increase--
H.M.JR: I wouldn't say this month - we didn't
say this month, did we?
MR. BELL: We said probably the latter part of
July.
H.M.JR: Was it written out, what you gave to the
press?
MR. BELL: Yes.
H.M.JR: Why not get what Bell sent out and get
that to your boys right away?
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MR. BELL: I gave it out at nine-thirty this morning.
I understood you want it on the market.
H.M.JR: You did the right thing.
MR. BUFFINGTON: I don't think they can do a
particularly good job on the two and & half's.
H.M.JR: On the two and a half's?
MR. BUFFINGTON: No, sir, the F and G's - many
sales in May on the F and G's resulted in the work
they did on the two and a half, and with your limit being
increased in July it is my belief, from talking with
a member of the Victory Fund Committee Executive Managers,
that you will get many of the people on the F and G's
even in August. You will probably restrict your sales
on the two and a half pretty much to the insurance
companies. The individual would much rather have the
F and G. Many of the sales made in the Chicago district
on F and G's were a result of the solicitations on the
two and a half's.
H.M.JR: Well--
MR. McKEE: That was the only reference I saw.
H.M.JR: That wouldn't make me mad, but anyway,
talk it over with Dan, will you, what you want to send
out.
Then I would like the Federal Reserve Board -
I would like to request them, if they would, to restudy
our tax anticipation notes, both as to the amounts and
as to the rates. The suggestion has been made that the
À tax anticipation amounts - the amount should be in-
creased, and the amount ought to be - the interest
rates should be brought in line. So if you gentlemen
would have somerecommendation, and George, would you
put your staff on it?
MR. McKEE: You want the ceiling on the A and
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the rates adjusted?
H.M.JR: Studied - I am not saying we do it. But
the suggestion has been made on the A, increase it to
twelve thousand, and on the B the rates - but study
the whole thing. How long have we had them out now?
MR. BELL: A year this August.
H.M.JR: A year this August. I think it should be
reexamined. I would like the advice of the Board on it.
George, you do the same.
MR. RANSOM: How soon would you like that, Mr.
Secretary?
H.M.JR: Oh, whenever it is convenient.
MR. RANSOM: Shor tly?
MR. SZYMCZAK: After this financing.
MR. McKEE: By the time the tax bill is passed or
before? (Laughter)
MR. RANSOM: Why indefinitely postpone it, John?
H.M.JR: I would like to talk in realities. I would
say a week.
MR. BELL: We haven't sold so many A's, but we sold
four hundred million tax notes in June, which is unusual
in a tax month. We sold about a hundred and fifty
million in March, as I recall.
H.M.JR: I would like that restudied.
Would it bother you to come back again at eleven
tomorrow?
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MR. RANSOM: Not at all.
MR. McKEE: If we can be of any use.
H.M.JR: It helps me.
Wait a minute, let me see my schedule.
MR. BELL: Ten-twenty is your last one.
H.M.JR: Just 80 that I won't keep them waiting,
let's say eleven-fifteen tomorrow. Is that all right?
MR. RANSOM: Yes.
H.M.JR: And if you get any ideas between then and
now will you call me, please?
MR. RANSOM: Yes.
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Calendar of Direct and Quaranteed Bonds, Notes and Certificates
July 1, 1942
(In millions of dollars)
Callable issues
Fixed maturities
First callable
Final maturities
Date
Description
Direct
Guaran-
Direct
Guaran-
Direct
Guaran-
teed
teed
teed
1942-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June
July
July
Aug.
Batt.15
Note 2%
342
Oct.15
RFC 7/8%
320(T)
Nov. 1
Certificates 1/2%
1,507(T)
Dec.15
Note 1-3/4%
232
Total
2,081
320
1943-Jan.
Feb. 1
Certificates 5/8%
1,588(T)
Mar.15
Note 3/4%
66(T)
Apr.
May 1
000 3/4%
289
June15
Note 1-1/84
629
June15
Bond 3-3/8% (1943-47)
454
July15
RFC 1-1/8%
324(T)
Aug.
Sept.15
Note 1%
279
Oct.15
Bond 3-1/4% (1943-45)
1,401
Nov.
Dec.15
Note 1-1/8%
421
Total
2,983
613
1,855
1944-Jan.
Feb. 1
USHA 1-3/8%
114
Mar.15
Note 1$
515
Mar.15
FFMC 3-1/4% (1944-64)
95
Apr.15
Bond 3-1/4% (1944-46)
1,519
Apr.15
RFC 1%
571(T)
May 1
HOLO % (1944-52)
779
May 15
FFMC 3% (1944-49)
835
June15
Note 3/4%
416
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Note 1%
283
Sept.15
Note 3/4%
635(T)
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 4% (1944-54)
1,037
Total
1,849
685
2,556
1,709
1945-Jan.
Feb.15
000 1-1/8%
412(T)
Mar.15
Note 3/4%
718
Apr.
May
June 1
HOLC 1-1/2% (1945-47)
755
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 2-3/46 (1945-47)
1,214
Oct.15
Bond 3-1/4% (1943-45)
1,401
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2-1/2%
541
Dec.15
Note 3/4%
531(T)
Total
1,790
412
1,214
755
1,401
1 Taxable issue.
1/ Excludes special issues, issues redeemable at option of holder, Postal Savings
bonds, FEA debentures, and issues for which an exchange offer has been cade and
accepted by the bulk of the holders.
Callable issues with respect to which & definite notice of call has been made
are listed as fixed maturities.
Regraded Unclassified
23
Calendar of Direct and Guaranteed Bonds, Notes and Certificates 1/
July 1, 1942
(In millions of dollars)
Callable issues 2/
Fixed maturities
First callable
Final naturities
Date
Description
Direct
Quaran-
Pireet
Guaran-
Direct
Quaran-
teed
teed
teed
1946-Jan. 1
Conversion 3%
16
Feb.
Mar.15
Note 1%
503(T)
Mar.15
Bond 3-3/44 (1946-56)
489
Apr.15
Bond 3-1/4% (1944-46)
1,519
May
June15
Bond 3% (1946-48)
1,036
June15
Bond 3-1/8% (1946-49)
819
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Note 1-1/2%
1,119(T)
Total
1,638
2,344
1,519
1947-Jan. 1
Conversion 3%
13
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June 1
HOLO 1-1/24 (1945-47)
755
June15
Bond 3-3/8% (1943-47)
454
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 2-3/4% (1945-47)
1,214
Oct.15
Bond 4-1/4% (1947-52)
759
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2%
701
Total
714
759
1,668
755
1948-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 2% (1948-50)
1,115(T)
Mar.15
Bond 2-3/4% (1948-51)
1,223
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 3% (1946-48)
1,036
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 2-1/2%
451
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2% (1948-50)
571
Total
451
2,909
1,036
1949-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May 15
FFMC 3% (1944-49)
835
June15
Bond 3-1/8% (1946-49)
819
June15
Bond 2% (1949-51)
1,014(T)
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 2% (1949-51)
1,292(T)
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 3-1/8% (1949-52)
491
Dec.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1949-53)
1,786
Total
4,583
819
835
T Taxable issue.
Excludes special issues, issues redeemable at option of holder, Postal Savings
bonds, FHA debentures, and issues for which an exchange offer has been made and
accepted by the bulk of the holders.
Callable issues with respect to which a definite notice of call has been made
are listed as fixed maturities.
Regraded Unclassified
24
Calendar of Direct and Guaranteed Bonds, Notes and Certificates
July 1, 1942
(In millions of dollars)
Callable issues
Fixed maturities
Description
First callable
Date
Final maturities
Direct
Guaran-
Direct
Guaran-
teed
Direct
Guaran-
teed
teed
1950-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 2% (1948-50)
1,115(T)
Apr.
May
June
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1950-52)
1,186
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2% (1948-50)
571
Total
1,186
1,686
1951-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 2-3/4% (1948-51)
1,223
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2% (1949-51)
1,014(T)
June15
Bond 2-3/4% (1951-54)
1,627
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 3% (1951-55)
755
Sept.15
Bond 2% (1949-51)
1,292(T)
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2-1/4% (1951-53)
1,118
Dec.15
Bond 2% (1951-55)
510(T)
Total
4,010
3,529
1952-Jan,
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1952-54)
1,024(T)
Apr.
May 1
HOLO 3% (1944-52)
779
June15
Bond 2-1/4% (1952-55)
1,501(T)
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1950-52)
1,186
Oct.15
Bond 4-1/4% (1947-52)
759
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 3-1/8% (1949-52)
491
Total
2,525
2,436
779
1953-Jan.
Feb.
Mar,
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2% (1953-55)
725
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1949-53)
1,786
Dec.15
Bond 2-1/4% (1951-53)
1,118
Total
725
2,904
T
Taxable issue.
Excludes special issues, issues redeemable at option of holder, Postal Savings
bonds, PHA debentures, and issues for which an exchange offer has been made and
accepted by the bulk of the holders.
Callable issues with respect to which a definite notice of call has been made
are listed as fixed maturities.
Regraded Unclassified
25
Calendar of Direct and Guaranteed Bonds, Notes and Certificates 1/
July 1, 1942
(In millions of dollars)
Callable issues
Fixed maturities
First callable
Final maturities
Date
Description
Direct
Guaran-
teed
Direct
Guaran-
teed
Direct
Guaran-
teed
1954-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1952-54)
1,024(T)
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2-3/4% (1951-54)
1,627
June15
Bond 2-1/4% (1954-56)
681
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 4% (1944-54)
1,037
Total
681
3,688
1955-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 2-7/8% (1955-60)
2,611
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2% (1953-55)
725
June15
Bond 2-1/4% (1952-55)
1,501(T)
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 3% (1951-55)
755
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2% (1951-55)
510(T)
Total
2,611
3,491
1956-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 3-3/4% (1946-56)
489
Mar.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1956-58)
1,449(T)
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2-1/4% (1954-56)
681
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 2-3/4% (1956-59)
982
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
2,431
1,170
1957-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
Taxable issue,
Excludes special issues, issues redeemable at option of holder, Postal Savings
bonds, FHA debentures, and issues for which an exchange offer has been made and
accepted by the bulk of the holders.
2/
Callable issues with respect to which a definite notice of call has been made
are listed as fixed maturities.
Regraded Unclassified
Calendar of Direct and Guaranteed Bonds, Notes and Certificates
July 1, 1942
(In millions of dollars)
Callable issues 2/
Fixed maturities
First callable
Final maturities
Date
Description
Guaran-
Direct
Guaran-
Direct
Guaran-
Direct
teed
teed
teed
1958-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 2-1/25 (1956-58)
1,449(T)
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2-3/4% (1958-63)
919
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
919
1,449
1959-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June
July
Aug.
Bond 2-3/4% (1956-59)
982
Sept.15
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
982
1960-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
Bond 2-7/8% (1955-60)
2,611
Apr.
May
June
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2-3/4% (1960-65)
1,485
Total
1,485
2,611
1961-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June 1
Panama 3%
50
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
50
T
Taxable issue.
Excludes special issues, issues redeemable at option of holder, Postal Savings
bonds, FHA debentures, and issues for which an exchange offer has been made and
accepted by the bulk of the holders,
Callable issues with respect to which a definite notice of call has been made
are listed as fixed maturities.
Regraded Unclassified
27
Calendar of Direct and Guaranteed Bonds, Notes and Certificates 1/
July 1, 1942
(In millions of dollars)
Callable issues 2/
Fixed maturities
First callable
Final maturities
Date
Description
Direct
Guaran-
teed
Direct
Guaran-
teed
Direct
Guaran-
teed
1962-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2-1/2% (1962-67)
882(T)
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
882
1963-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2-3/4% (1958-63)
-919
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
919
1964-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.15
FFMC 3-1/4% (1944-64)
95
Apr.
May
June
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
95
1965-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.15
Bond 2-3/4% (1960-65)
1,485
Total
1,485
T
Taxable issue.
Excludes special issues, issues redeemable at option of holder, Postal Savings
bonds, FHA debentures, and issues for which an exchange offer has been made and
accepted by the bulk of the holders.
Callable issues with respect to which a definite notice of call has been made
are listed as fixed maturities.
Regraded Unclassified
28
Calendar of Direct and Guaranteed Bonds, Notes and Certificates 1/
July 1, 1942
(In millions of dollars)
Callable issues 2/
Fixed maturities
Description
First callable
Date
Final maturities
Guaran-
Direct
Guaran-
teed
Direct
teed
Direct
Guaran-
teed
1966-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June
July
Aug.
Sept.
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
1967-Jan.
Feb.
Mar.
Apr.
May
June15
Bond 2-1/2% (1962-67)
882(T)
July
Aug.
Sept.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1967-72)
2,716(T)
Oct.
Nov.
Dec.
Total
2,716
882
*
1972-Sept.15
Bond 2-1/2% (1967-72)
2,716(T)
T
Taxable issue.
1/
Excludes special issues, issues redeemable at option of holder, Postal Savings
bonds, FHA debentures, and issues for which an exchange offer has been made and
accepted by the bulk of the holders.
2/
Callable issues with respect to which a definite notice of call has been made
are listed as fixed maturities.
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TREASURY BILLS
July 8
July 1
June 24
June 17
Amount offered
$300 M
$300 M
$300 M
$300 M
Bids tendered
646
671
710
801
fl
Low rate
0 3/
0 2/
.275%
0 1/
High rate
.372%
.368%
.368
.368%
Average rate
.365
>
.360
.362
.365
Amount in New York
$173 M
$200 M
$157 M
$151 M
Amount in Chicago
38
34
79
23
Amount in San Francisco
..
16
12
13
16
Amount in balance of
country
73
54
51
110
1/
$10,000 bid at 99.975; next low rate 0.277%
2/
$1,000,000 bid at 99.991; next low rate 0.237%
3/
$60,000 bid at par; $5,000 at 99.940; $10,000 at 99.935;
next low rate 0.297%.
July 6, 1942
Regraded Unclassified
30
July 6, 1942.
11:38 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
There you are.
HMJr:
Steve?
Steve
Early:
Yes, Henry.
HMJr:
How are you?
E:
All right, thank you.
HMJr:
Steve, I want a little help and B. little
advice. If our plans go through, on Wednesday
and Thursday we'll be in the market for $2
billion dollars which, incidentally, 18 the
biggest one yet.
E:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
Now what I was wondering 1s this - if there's
something other than "spot" news, supposing
the Army or Navy knows something which they've
been holding back, see?
E:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Couldn't it be arranged that they didn't just
have to give it out on that - one of those two
days?
E:
(Laughs) No. Henry, here's my advice on it....
HMJr:
Yeah.
E:
and I think it could be arranged.
HMJr:
Yeah.
E:
I think, however, that since we now have an
office....
HMJr:
Yeah.
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E:
of the Director of War Information
HMJr:
Yeah.
E:
....with all the authority and power in the
world given to him by Executive Order
HMJr:
Yeah.
E:
that he is your man.
HMJr:
I see. Well, that's what I wanted to know.
E:
Yeah, I'd talk to Elmer Davis about it, and I
think you'll - I'm sure you'll find him co-
operative.
HMJr:
But normally I'd go to you, you see?
E:
That's right. That's right.
HMJr:
But I - you think I ought to talk to him.
E:
Yes, I do, because he is the control on that.
HMJr:
Well, he can control maybe the others, but you
might control the President.
E:
Well, I - - I'll do my bit over here.
HMJr:
Would you do your bit with the President?
E:
Yes, oh, yes. But what I was thinking about
was the - the rest of the - the Government,
and outside of the President, Davis 1s your
news controller.
HMJr:
Well, I....
E:
He's your czar.
HMJr:
I know.
E:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Well....
E:
(Laughs)
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HMJr:
A lot of (laughs) - a lot of these things are
set up and they're beautiful on paper
E:
I know.
HMJr:
but you can often call up a friend and
get much further.
E:
Oh, I'll do that. I'll - I'll put in an oar
here.
HMJr:
Well, if you'll put in with the boss....
E:
Yeah.
HMJr:
....I mean it's just that there's something.
E:
Yeah.
HMJr:
....bad and
E:
Yeah.
HMJr:
they were holding it for a month, don't let
them just break it on Wednesday
E:
Between now and Thursday.
HMJr:
What?
E:
Between now and Thursday.
HMJr:
Pardon?
is
I say, between now and Thursday.
HMJr:
No, well
E:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Yeah, between now and Thursday night.
E:
Yeah, yeah. All right, then....
HMJr:
In other words, I need all the help I can get.
E:
Yeah.
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HMJr:
Well, now we'll....
E:
I'll - I'll do my part over here. You put in a
phone call and talk to Elmer.
HMJr:
I'll....
E:
You'll find him thoroughly cooperative, I'm
sure.
HMJr:
I'll do that right away.
E:
Right, sir.
HMJr:
There's - the thing 18 I - I - if they want
anything bad, let them announce it on Friday.
is
Yeah, okay (laughs)
HMJr:
See?
E:
All right.
HMJr:
I mean if they've got something bad, let them
announce it on Friday.
E:
Yeah. All right. I'll tell you the picture,
I think, as far as I can see it at the present
time, it looks pretty good.
HMJr:
Yeah, I think 80.
E:
Between now and - and through Thursday.
HMJr:
Right.
E:
If the British can hold, we'll be in pretty
good shape.
HMJr:
That's right.
E:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Of course, in my business I've got to go
through with it anyway.
E:
That's right.
HMJr:
But I just didn't want a kick in the pants
unnecessarily.
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E:
No. Right.
HMJr:
Thank you.
E:
You're welcome.
HMJr:
Thank you.
E:
Goodbye.
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July 6, 1942.
11:45 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Elmer Davis.
HMJr:
Hello, hello.
Elmer
Davis:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
This is Henry Morgenthau.
D:
Davis.
HMJr:
Mr. Davis, on Wednesday and Thursday I'm going
to borrow $2 billion dollars. Hello?
D:
Yes.
HMJr:
If there 1s any war - latent war news--I'm not
talking about "spot" news-that they were think-
ing of announcing, you know?
D:
Yes.
HMJr:
If you could persuade the various people - I mean
unless it's "spot" news--I'd never ask for that--
to hold it back until Friday morning, it would
help me.
D:
Latent stuff.
HMJr:
Hello?
D:
You say, latent stuff, yes.
HMJr:
Well, something, you know there may have been a
ship sunk or something we lost, a transport a
month ago or something like that and they just
get around to announcing 1t, or some - you know,
something which happened...
D:
Hold till Friday.
HMJr:
Hello?
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D:
Hold till Friday.
HMJr:
Yes.
D:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Now I talked to Steve Early, and he said he'd
take care of the President.
D:
I'll - I'll ask the Services then on that point.
HMJr:
If - if you would, we - normally before you were
in the picture, I'd have to call up about six
people myself.
D:
Yeah.
HMJr:
So having you here is - 1s a godsend for me.
D:
You don't think bad news would - if any happened
to be available, would promote the sale?
HMJr:
Well, this 1s regular financing.
D:
I see.
HMJr:
This is - I got - and this - I got to go to the
banks in this case.
D:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
This - this has nothing to do with my War Bonds.
D:
Yeah.
HMJr:
This - I've got to go and get the banks to
subscribe $2 billion dollars in two days, and -
oh - I - if something broke, it isn't going to
spoil it but I've got troubles enough, you know?
D:
Yes, surely.
HMJr:
And if Frank Knox had lost a battle-ship or the
War Department a troop-ship or something a month
or two ago, and they just thought, "Well, we'll
tell the public about it now"
D:
Yeah.
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HMJr:
....I don't think it would make a hell of a lot
of difference if they waited a day or two.
D:
Yes.
HMJr:
Is that right?
D:
Surely.
HMJr:
Is my request a fair one?
D:
I think it is, absolutely.
HMJr:
All right.
D:
Anything like that for release Friday morning.
Would that do, if they had it?
HMJr:
That's - that's all right, a.8 long as they can
hold it till Friday morning.
D:
Fine, thank you.
HMJr:
I thank you.
38
July 6, 1942
11:45 a.m.
WAR BONDS
Present:
Mr. Graves
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Gamble
Mr. Odegard
Mrs. Klotz
H.M.JR: I just thought I would have a couple of
minutes with you to tell you about the thing up at
Poughkeepsie, which Mr. Meyer did extremely well.
There was nobody there from the State headquarters.
I mean, whatever was done was done by him, and there
was nobody there from Washington. I mean he did the
whole thing by himself. He got no help, although the
State people knew I was going up there.
Knowing that I was coming, the International
Business Machines, which has ten thousand employees,
and which he said he had made fifteen trips to and
made no headway, they worked right straight through
80 that by the time I got there Saturday they had
over ninety percent. Instead of having one they had
sixteen. A number of them went over the ten percent,
from which he had had none so far. The International
Business was just below the ten percent. They said
they would get it. They said Saturday morning they
had one conscientious objector, and they got him, which
made them a hundred percent.
But the point that I am making is - and I intro-
duced each of the sixteen fellows. Each said a little
word.
MR. GAMBLE: I read about it in The New York
Times.
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H.M.JR: The whole thing was handled locally.
As I said, there was no one that came up from the
State headquarters. I mean, there is usually so much
fuss. Maybe it is better not to have any fuss. I
mean, when we went to Detroit, the amount of fussing--
MR. KUHN: I know. This is much better.
H.M.JR: This seems to be much better, and the
people liked it. In view of the fact that my coming
seems to have given a goal to shoot at, I am ready to
take on some other place. Remember, I spoke to you
about it?
MR. GRAVES: Yes.
H.M.JR: I spoke off and on for half an hour.
MR. KUHN: Just introducing the men?
H.M.JR: I made little speeches, little quips,
little remarks here and there, and enjoyed it. I
enjoyed it.
MR. GAMBLE: Meyer told me. I talked to him
over the phone. He said it was a lift to them, your
being there.
H.M.JR: So where are you ready, Harold, because
I have got to do a little planning about the time?
MR. GAMBLE: Why wouldn't it be a good plan at
these twelve regional meetings that we are going to
have to bring in all the honor roll - bring in the
firms that are in that particular territory - - bring
in all of the representatives of the firms that have
gone over ninety percent in these regional meetings
and have the Secretary appear at one or more of those -
as many of them as you would like to attend. We will
give you the schedule on them.
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H.M.JR: Well, I am getting a little choosy. I
don't think ninety percent is good enough.
MR. GAMBLE: Ninety and ten.
H.M.JR: I don't think the ninety is good enough.
MR. KUHN: Wouldn't you like to do it actually
at some plant?
H.M.JR: Would you like to hear what they did,
because this was - in the first place I didn't say,
which I should have, that they had the most amazing
stand that you talk from that I ever saw. It must
have been especially for Mr. Watson. It looked like
the instrument board of a Boeing bomber. It had
every instrument painted, down to the last detail of
where you put your paper to turn it, which was cork.
I had never seen anything like it in my life. They
expected Watson, and he didn't show up.
It was actually inside the plant, which was &
closed plant where they are making these twenty
millimeter anti-aircraft guns, and the company had
its own little band, which was good, and then they
invited in - they only had five or six people on the
stand, and then they had these - I had stressed it
so much that in practically every case there was a
workman or working woman who represented the plant.
It was not the plant's owner. I mean I finally got
that over to them. Each person came up. Theyhad
time on a little local broadcasting station. I am
sure they could have gotten it on the State-wide.
At least they had it on the local. Nobody made any
arrangements for any hook-up or anything, and these
people came up. I was actually in the plant. I
don't know what arrangement they had made about the
men, but all the men stopped work, about a thousand,
and they gathered around in the plant. Afterwards
we went over to the company cafeteria and sat down
with the men and had lunch.
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41
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But it was very, very nice, and I think that that
has an advantage over being in a big hall because the
men seemed to like it. They seemed to like it.
MR. KUHN: Suppose it were done at a shipyard
near Washington? Wouldn't that be a good place?
H.M.JR: What I had in mind was this. After this
experience I went through there I don't know whether -
take, for instance, Newport shipyards, which is only
an hour by air. Down at Norfolk, I don't know what
the situation is there, how good it is, I mean. If you
told your administrator, "We think we could get Mr.
Morgenthau to come down if you could get your plant up
to ten percent", or the Camden Shipyards at Philadelphia,
or the New York Shipbuilding Company - "We can deliver
Mr. can." Morgenthau if you can get ninety and ten, and you
In the case of this one company they went to the
employees right straight through the night, all Friday
night, in order to get this - Standard Gage.
MRS. KLOTZ: Was that good or bad?
H.M.JR: It was good.
MRS. KLOTZ: Well, I mean on a volunteer basis.
(Laughter)
MR. KUHN: How did the employees take it?
MRS. KLOTZ: I would like to know what compulsory
means. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: They seemed to be happy. They gave me
a book with every employee's name in it, and certainly
the attitude of the people standing around--
MRS. KLOTZ: All night long, I think that is very
funny.
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42
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MR. KUHN: I mean, you didn't see any surly
people around?
H.M.JR: No, no. And I had this man with me,
Secret Service man, who mixed with the crowd, and he
said they all liked it, and a number of the other
people said that they all liked it.
MR. KUHN: I believe you can tell, Mrs. Klotz,
if you mingle with the crowd.
H.M.JR: (Reading)
"We Pledge
"Our Hearts to allegiance to our Country
and to our fighting men--
"Our Brains to Out-Think the Axis every
step of the way--
"Our Hands to manufacture munitions to
carry our fighting men to Victory--
"Our Dollars to buy bonds to equip and
aid those men fighting for us.
H.M.JR: I was really quite touched. Everybody's
name is in there, and they have their own ten-percent
club. And the interesting thing is - anothing thing
which came up - you see, they have got a ten-percent
club, and then they had the War Production Advisory
Committee, and they both were working together, which
I think is interesting. All the men signed it (indicat-
ing book).
MR. KUHN: Is that at Poughkeepsie?
H.M.JR: Yes, the War Production and the other,
and the other thing which I brought - - the Army in-
spection service is all there, civilians - I mean if
we ever wanted any help - Gawd, they just stand around
and don't do a thing as far as I could tell - the
brass hats.
This is very nice (indicating book). The Army
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43
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and Navy people are in every plant in the country.
But I came back - it was very, very good for me.
It did a lot for me. So if you men would think about
it.
MR. ODEGARD: To what extent, Mr. Secretary, was
this a community affair, or was it just a plant affair?
MR. GAMBLE: Sixteen plants represented.
H.M.JR: No. They had three or four banks; they
had a railroad brotherhood; they had Standard Gage. It
was all the Poughkeepsie area, and the interesting thing
is - here this concern went in there, built a new plant,
entirely new, and they brought in practically no employees
from the outside - everybody from the farms and the
community. They had one or two technicians, but out-
side of that - and the most amusing thing of all was
right in the front there was one Negro, and they were
ready--
MR. KUHN: In the front row?
H.M.JR: Working, yes, right there at the machine.
You fell over him as you came in. So Mrs. Morgenthau
said, "How about it, where are the Negroes?" There
is our Negro." They had one. (Laughter)
MR. KUHN: Somebody tipped them df.
H.M.JR: They had one.
MR. GAMBLE: I would like to suggest that if you
are willing to give it some time, Mr. Secretary, we
not confine it to a single plant. We might make the
plant the meeting place.
H.M.JR: No, no, just like this. Take Norfolk
or Philadelphia - if you were going to take Philadelphia,
for instance, and gave them a week or ten days for the
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44
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boys to come in on the volunteer basis.
MR. GAMBLE: Have a drive, that is right.
H.M.JR: And then I could combine that visiting
with my Federal Reserve Board directors in Philadelphia
and do the whole thing - if necessary take two days.
But anyhow I looked at - Graves gave me his weekly
chart on plants. I was surprised, for instance, to
find how low Connecticut was on the pay-roll deduction -
fifty or sixty percent, or something.
MR. GRAVES: The number of concerns, you mean?
H.M.JR: Yes.
MR. GRAVES: We are concentrating on that.
MR. GAMBIE : It is coming up.
H.M.JR: This thing of Meyer's, I don't think
you can improve on the pattern. He only had three
days' notice. You announce I am coming and get them
up to ninety and ten, and get as many as you can in
that community and then go into one plant - I would
like to try it again. It was just awfully good for
me.
MR. GAMBLE: Don't you think if you did it in
connection with these Federal Reserve regional meet-
ings we are having - you could combine that.
H.M.JR: When?
MR. GAMBLE: They will start the end of this
month.
H.M.JR: That is a lifetime.
MR. GAMBLE: The end of the month. This is the
sixth of July.
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H.M.JR: I want to do something right away again.
MR. ODEGARD: Do both. They are not mutually
exclusive.
H.M.JR: No. Think it over.
MR. GAMBLE: We can move - there is no reason
we can't move it several weeks up. This meeting in
Boston Mr. Sullivan is covering on the ninth, that
would very well have been a meeting where we could do
this, an industrial meeting, pay-roll savings meeting,
and we could have tied that in had we suspected we
could have had you.
H.M.JR: Have you got a good man down at Norfolk?
MR. GAMBLE: Yes, we have.
MR. KUHN: The great concentration of industry
is up around Wilmington and Chester, which is even
nearer than Norfolk.
H.M.JR: Well, look, here is Harold Graves and
his three right hands, so you fellows get together.
I am willing to be used. I want to try it again.
MR. GAMBLE: Can we extend that to include these
meetings, or some of these twelve meetings?
H.M.JR: I don't want to be booked more than
one meeting at a time ahead. I don't want to be
booked for more than one. But I have got to make my
plans, one at a time. But I think if it worked here
I don't see why you couldn't do it in a bigger plant.
MR. GAMBLE: It is more important that we do it
in a bigger place.
H.M.JR: I may stumble, stub my toe, but I would
like to try it again. Incidentaily, what kind of an
insignia do you have?
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46
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MR. GAMBLE: They get a bull's eye.
MR. KUHN: It goes down in the corner of their
flag.
1 MR. GAMBLE: Right in the center.
H.M.JR: Will you bring me a flag with the ten
percent? I would like to see it. Incidentally, there
should be one flying from the Treasury, and I will bet
you there isn't.
MR. GRAVES: We will have to take it up with the
administrator for the District and see if we can get
one. (Laughter)
H.M.JR: I want to see your flag. But what about
the Treasury? We are ten percent. Why don't we fly
the flag?
MR. GAMBLE: Probably lack the four dollars to
buy the flag.
H.M.JR: That is all I have.
You got a couple of telegrams from me, didn't
you?
MR. GAMBLE: Yes, sir. May I report on them.
Mr. Meyer says they have been moving and that he may
have missed this in the excitement of the moving, but
see, we sent him on June 27 a copy of this program,
the retailers' program.
H.M.JR: He didn't know anything about it.
MR. GAMBLE: Well, in reading his mail - there
is a copy. That was the bulletin that went with the
two eight-page newspapers that we sent him on June 27.
I asked him to wire during the day and confirm the
receipt of this so you would know it had gone out.
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On the other matter, we have a weekly program
on the night of the 16th, a half an hour, on the
seventy-one CBS stations, which is going to be
dedicated entirely to this program on the 17th. The
radio department now is checking to see if they can
dub in the commercials on the Star Parade. They have
already been made for that week - they have been made
through the first of August.
H.M.JR: Why can't we just postpone them and
make a new one?
MR. GAMBLE: We have asked about that, making
new ones and dubbing in the ones already made, also
the use of the forty-six commercials, approximately,
which will be our share.
H.M.JR: Wait a minute. You are talking a
language - the suggestion I made was that the Star
Parade be prior to the 17th, that it be to boost this
thing. Now, you tell me that they have been made--
MR. GAMBLE: That is correct.
H.M.JR: Those could all be shoved ahead, and
couldn't you make three new ones and make them on
Tuesday?
MR. GAMBLE: Either that or dub in one of the
other--
H.M.JR: What do you mean by "dub"?
MR. GAMBLE: There is a series of commercials
in each one of the transcriptions. They would dub
in new copy and use the programs now set.
H.M.JR: But if you had another one of these
historic ones, you know, the "Boy on the Burning
Deck" and that kind of thing, Horatio Alger stuff,
it wouldn't get anybody very much excited about going
into it.
Unclassified
48
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MR. GAMBLE: I only checked that, not knowing
about making new ones.
H.M.JR: My thought was this, if you can do it.
After all, the retail department stores have a lot of
clever people. I don't know whether you have got time
or not. It is only two weeks off now.
MR. GAMBLE: That is why I checked the dubbing
in of new commercial copy.
H.M.JR: Why don't you take a look at the things
which they were going to rely on that week? I mean,
they might not fit at all.
MR. GAMBLE: That is right.
MR. KUHN: Bill Murray is back in New York from
the coast.
H.M.JR: On your commercials, if you haven't, why
don't you ask McClintock to write you some good ones
for that week? But tie them in. Those might not be
fitting at all.
MR. GAMBLE: Well, we will do that. I will give
you a report on it later in the day. You see, we
have these commercials that go on all other programs,
about forty-six of them during the week, and we are
going to put the forty-six a week in advance of the
17th.
H.M.JR: Don't you think that in that you might
say something about, "You can actually get your bonds
at these stores"?
MR. GAMBLE: Yes, sir.
MR. ODEGARD: Wouldn't most of these radio
activities be a matter for the local radio station?
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49
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MR. GAMBLE: No, not this. These are - you see,
the commercials are right in the transcriptions, and
there are seven hundred of them now.
H.M.JR: My point is simply this: In doing a
lot of stuff out of Washington why not just let's tune
it in with a national program? That is all.
MR. ODEGARD: I was thinking that is perfectly
true on the national program, but it does seem to me
that your more effective promotion is going to be in
your local.
MR. GAMBLE: It will be.
H.M.JR: Yes, but supposing we come along with a
flood of publicity that whole week that has nothing
to do with this thing?
MR. ODEGARD: We ought not to do that.
MR. GAMBLE: That is absolutely right.
MR. KUHN: That is right.
H.M.JR: Until I sent the telegram nobody had
thought of that.
MR. GAMBLE: Yes, Mr. Secretary, we had even
gotten the thirty-minute special program from Wrigley's.
H.M.JR: Not the Star Parade.
MR. GAMBLE: No, the Star Parade we had not.
H.M.JR: I don't like to be right when somebody
else is wrong - I only like to be right when it is
original.
But I did enjoy that Poughkeepsie thing very
much, to my surprise, and you fellows had better
look out. I am going to think I am a speaker.
50
July 6, 1942
My dear Mr. President:
The Dutchess County War Bonds
Committee made excellent arrangements
last Saturday for the presentation
of certificates to sixteen concerns
that had 90% or better participation
in the War Savings Pay-roll Deduction
Plan.
I an enclesing herewith a copy
of the Sunday Courier, which covered
this program, as I know how interested
you are In local affairs.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) 1. Morgentban. and
The President,
2 clippings from the NY Times
The White House.
of 7/5/42 also enclosed
Delivered by Secret Service
Agent 3:55 PM 7/6/42.
UInclassified
POUGHKEEPSIE (NEW YORK) HUDSON VALLEY SUNDAY COURIER
51
JULY 5, 1942
Morgenthau
turers' National back for the 100 par-
cent employe participation in the
payroll deduction plan. The local
bank was the first institution of its
Praises Firms
kind to be cited at the ceremony.
The First National Bank, the
Poughkmepsie Trust company and
the Vassar bank also won 100 per-
cent employe participation awards.
For War Savings
The Standard Degr scenpany WM
among two organizations reporting
not only 100 percent employe par-
Licipation but 10 percent of per-
sonnel payroll In purchase of war
Official Cites
bonds, Secretary Morgenthau noted
the country's objective of 10 percent
IBM Employes,
of payroll participation. others of
the speakers reforring to that soging
Working on Holiday
Thomas J. Watson preside: of
the International Musiness Ma-
chines corporation, who ase un-
Congratulating 16 industrial,
able to attend the ceremony on Ac-
count of Illness. sent & telegram to
banking and other firms of
Secretary Morgenthau, asserting
Dutchess county on their 90
that a "great honor" had been con-
ferred on Poughkeepsie by the
or better percent participation
Treasury head's presence at the
in the war savings payroll de-
ceremonies. Mr. Morgenthau had
noted that is was his first experience
duction plan, in ceremonies at
in presenting the was savings cer-
the International Business Ma-
cificates, Mrs. Morgenihsu having
vohinteered her services to take part
chines corporation plant yester-
in a similar ceremony at the Chrys-
day Secretary of the Treasury
ler plant in Detroit,
Mr. Watson's telegram tead:
Morgenthau said:
"You have conferred 8. great hon-
Message to Hitler'
or on our Poughkcepale community
by taking time off from your buby
"I do net know or any better
life to attend the ceremony In con-
message to send back to Mr. Hitler
nection with the United States bonds
than to tell him about an you men
and savings stamp campaign. I
we see here working on the Fourth
congratulate you and all members
of July like any other day." Work-
of your staff on the efficient and
era of the IBM plant were at their
successful Anancing of our govern-
machines at the more of care-
ment during these critical times. We
monies, but warer permitted to -
are proud to be among the group
semble with the mests of
who are being honored you to-
pany int the
day. These certificates symbolize the
gram. One resure of the
united determination of these peo-
sembly was the playing of martial
ple to assume their individual re-
airs by the new IBM band.
sponsibility by making the soundest
Before presenting certificates of
investment in the world and giving
merit to the 15 organizations which
concrete evidence of heir support
were represented, Secretary Mor-
LG our Commandar-In-Chlef. Presi-
genthau pointed out that the gov-
dent Roosevelt, and you M the head
ernment is spending a "Httle over #1
of the financial department of our
& day for every man. woman and
government is carrying out our
child in the country" on the was
country's war program.
program, and that "we, in the
Richmond F. Mayer. chairman of
Treasury, have the job for the vest,
the Dutchess County War Savings
of the year of relaing something like
committee was in charge of the pro-
four billion, five hundred million
gram, and Mrs. Lytle Hull, vice
dollars."
chairman of the New York State
committee and Benster Bontecou,
Secretary Morgenthau WM pre-
chairman of the Hudson Valley Dis-
sented with & book containing the
triet No. 6 committee were present
names of the IBM employes M par-
for the ceremonies. Pred M. Far-
ticipante in the SET savings pay-
wel, resident manager of the IBM
roll' deduction plan. Asserting that
plant, introduced Mr. Meyer.
he was "more touched than I can
In her message to the assembled
say over reselving this book," Mr.
group. Mrs. Hull said that the der-
Morgentheu called for support of
tiffeate of merit ceremony will the
President Roosevelt in the war pro-
"most fitting" observance of Inde-
gram asserting that "we have &
pendence day that she had experi-
long hard FOW shand of us."
enced.
Congratulates Banks
Double Significance
Mr. Morgenthau took occasion to
The occasion, she said, "has a
congratulate the banks of the coun-
double significance for me-first, be-
try for their "grand" work in sell-
cause the awards are being pre-
ing bonds and stamps. He did so in
sented in my own county of Dutch-
citing the Farmers' and Manufac-
eas; and secondly, the awards are
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52
beling given to the plant of my;1BM organization, welcomed the
friend. Mr. Watson, for when Typente at the places and made the
have the areatment respect, admitts-ysport that will was production Date
tion and affection.
of the employ, instruting
"As a member of the New York
thome at Sudicott, Weshington, and
State War Savings staff, I am natur-
Rochester M well as Poughkeepain
ally Interested in the establishment
had reported 100 percent of employe
of payroll allotment plans in in-
participation in the payroll de-,
dustry, although this is somewhat
duction plan for purchase of the
removed from my OWD department, war bonds.
which concerna itself with women's
The 16 concerns which received
groups and women's programs.
the certificates and their representa-
"I am convinced. however, that
tives, in some Instances employes,
the effectiveness of any payroll
accepting the citations were: the
savings plan depends in no small
IBM plant, Joeeph A: Proley, em-
way upon the degree to which the
playe, speaking for the company:
women in the community under-
Bedgwick Machine Works, Inc.,
stand the was sayings program and
Joseph Maries, assistant engineer)
are in accord with It. The percent-
Ideal Linen Mesh company. Att-
age of women actually employed
gusta. Miller, employe: Pringhkeepsis
here is very great; yet each man in
Trust company, Harry C. Welch
this organization is a member of
trust officer: First National bank,
some family group which includes
John R. Evans, president: Western
women-wiyes, sisters or mothers.
Printing and Lithographing com-
These women as receivers. and
pany, Robert 8. Callender, em-
spenders of family Incrime will have
ploye: Gulf Oil company, Stanley
a large voice, If not the deciding
Husted, employe; Fallkill Machine
voice as to whether the employe will
company, Elaine Welsa, employe:
subscribe to the payroll savings
International Harvaster company,
plan. and, If so, how much.
John J. Hanrahan, local manager:
"We have discovered in many
Smith Brothers Inc., William W.
parts of the country that women,
Smith, 2nd, president; Roe Movers:
by their enthusiasm or by their in-
Floyd C. Roe, president, Mainten-
difference, can determine the sue-
ance of Way Employee, Friendship
cess or failure of this effort.
lodge, 1164, New Hamburg, George
should like, therefore, to express
E. Reich, necretary-treasurer.
my admiration of the splendid job
Also, Vassar bank. James Town-
of explanation and Instruction
send. president: Standard Gage
which has been done in this com-
company, Allen L. Quigley Jr., em-
munity to bring about such mag-
ploye; Farmers and Manufacturers
nificent results.
National Bank. Spencer W. Inger-
Trend Is Challenge
soll, employe: and WKIP radio sta-
tion, Richard McCarthy, announcer.
"Now. more than ever before, we
Karl P. Charter, of the IBM em-
need to enlist behind this program.
playes, announced that a. 10 percent
The distressing reports from the
of payroll club had been formed at
war front are a challenge to each
the local plant and pledged the et-
one of us to redouble our efforts in
forts of the group to enroll as many
support of our fighting forces.
of the employee M possible.
As workers and as individuals, we
have but one objective- to ent higher
Meyer Congratulates Press
and ever higher goals for ourselves
Mr. Meyer, in discussing features
until we can truly say that our
of the war savings campaign in the
energy and our dollars have been county. congratulated county news-
fully mobilized.
papers for their cooperation in pub-
"I am sure you are sware of the
licizing the war savings drive. Cited
personal reasons for investing as in this connection were the Beacon
heavily M possible in war savings. News, the Engle-Hews, the Fough-
Quite apart from any patriotic con- keepile New Yorker and the Hudson
alderations, war boods offer an in- Valley Bunday Courier. Also cited
vestment under such advantageous for its work was the WRIP radio
terms that every thoughtful person station.
should welcome the opportunity to Mr. Morgenthau at one point in
secure them. This is attested to be the program complimented the IBM
the fact that every business man and organization for its corperation In
every bustness organization in the providing registration cards used in
country is investing in these securi-
connection with war savings pro-
time even beyond the amounts which
gram. He pointed ous that after
patriotism would demand of them-
Pearl Harbor. the cards were being
if there can be any limit put upon
provided at a rate of some 350,000
patriotism. At this critical moment,
6. day. but that this FM not fast
however, and especially on this an
enough. The Treasury head then said that
niversary of the declaration of that
freedom which we are now fighting
he communicated with Mr. Watson,
to maintain. WS need no such argu-
acquainting him with the problem.
ments. IS is sufficient for all of us
The next day, he said. the cards
were supplied at the rate of one
that we are able to serve our coun-
try. and by your overwhelming par-
million a. day.
After the program had been con-
Holpation in the payroll assings
cluded those who participated were
plan, you have certainly demons-
trated your eagerness to do NO."
gunta as luncheon in the new cafe-
Veria at the plant. Mrs. Morgenthau
Kirk Welsames Goasts
scompanied (Secretary Morgenthau,
Charles 4. vice predent in
and Lytle Hull accompanied Mrs.
charge of of the
Hull
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53
Prepared for delivery by HM, Jr at cere-
nonies at Walter Reed Hospital when the
disabled soldiers who participated with
Gen. Doolittle in the raid over Japan
were decorated. The Secretary decided
to speak extemporaneously and his remarks
were transcribed from a recording of the
broadcast and are also dated 7/6/42.
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DRAFT OF SECRETARY MORGENTHAU'S
RADIO TALK ON JULY 6, 1942
These men have been decorated, but decorations
will not restore their health nor make up for the
pain they have suffered -- for us. The only way
we can keep faith with them is to work harder,
to save materials, to practice real self-denial,
and to put more of our earnings into War Bonds,
80 that these brave men shall not have suffered
in vain.
"
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See page 9 for the Secretary's remarks.
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July 6, 1942
1:40 p.m.
PRESENTATION OF DISTINGUISHED FLYING CROSSES AND
PURPLE HEART TO SIX ARMY FLYERS AT A CEREMONY
AT WALTER REED HOSPITAL
MR. FRANK BLAIR: Good afternoon, ladies and
gentlemen, this is Frank Blair speaking to you from
the solarium of a ward at Walter Reed General Hospital
in the Army's great medical center in Washington, D. C.
This occasion is the first ceremony conducted at
the hospital for sick and wounded veterans of this World
War. Six gallant young men of the Army Air Forces are
being decorated by Major General Millard F. Harmon,
chief of the air staff of the Army Air Forces.
Five of these men flew with Brigadier General James
H. Doolittle in the daring raid on Japan. The sixth
went through hell at Pearl Harbor. Most of them are
sitting up in hospital chairs this afternoon, and
several are well enough to be discharged very shortly,
and soon they will be flying again.
Parents and wives of some of the men are looking
on proudly and beaming. Now the ceremony is about to
get under way. General Harmon has just entered the room
and stands facing the veterans. General Doolittle and
General Marietta, the commanding officer of the hos-
pital, are at his left. Captain Mollaun, the hospital
adjutant, is about ready to read the citation.
CAPTAIN MOLLAUN: Citation for Distinguished Flying
Cross. The following officers are cited for extraordinary
achievement while participating in a highly destructive
raid on the Japanese mainland on April 18, 1942. They
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volunteered for this mission knowing full well that
the chances of survival were extremely remote, and
executed their parts in it with great skill and dar-
ing. Their achievement reflects high credit on them
and on the military service.
MR. QLAIR: That was Captain Mollaun reading
the citation, and now the three Generals are moving
over to the wheel chair of Lieutenant Ted W. Lawson of
Los Angeles, who was wounded worst of all. His left
leg was hurt in a plane crash sometime since the raid,
and it had to be amputated. General Harmon leans
over the Lieutenant's chair and pins the Flying Cross
above his heart. The General is saying something to
him; we can't hear what it is, but from the way Lieu-
tenant Lawson is grinning it must be pretty good.
Mrs. Lawson is watching from beside the wheel chair,
and she is smiling too.
And now to Lieutenant Harold F. Watson of West
Hartford, Connecticut. He is a big husky fellow.
His right shoulder was hurt. Lieutenant Watson is
getting well pretty fast, and General Harmon con-
gratulates him warmly. The General pins the Distinguished
Flying Cross above his heart and is about to move on to
Lieutenant Charles L. McClure of University City,
Missouri. Lieutenant McClure is a good-natured, athletic-
looking navigator. Both of his shoulders were hurt, and
he says that he'll be as well as new - as good as new -
before the year is out.
General Harmon has now reached Lieutenant McClure
and is pinning the Distinguished Flying Cross over his
heart. That makes three of our six men already decorated,
and they're all smiling and very happy.
I notice that General Doolittle is talking to one
of the men, and they're both smiling, probably reminiscing.
General Harmon turns now to Lieutenant James M.
Parker, Jr., of Livingston, Texas, and Lieutenant Howard
A. Sessler of Arlington, Massachusetts. They both had
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the same bad break. After sailing through the ack ack
over Japan without a scratch, they came down with
malaria in Washington.
The last man to get his medal in this ceremony is
Second Lieutenant Wallace F. Pickard of Forest Hills,
New York. He is getting the Purple Heart for wounds
suffered at Hickam Field in Hawaii the day the war
began. I think Captain Mollaun has & citation to read.
CAPTAIN MOLLAUN: Citation for the Purple Heart
to Wallace F. Pickard, Second Lieutenant, Army Air.
Forces, for wounds suffered during the attack on
Hickam Field, Territory of Hawaii, on December 7, 1941.
MR. BLAIR: Lieutenant Pickard helped rescue three
men from a burning supply room before a bomb fragment
hit him in the hand. He says that he'll be flying
again in a matter of months.
And now let's see if we can't get some of the
flyers and their families to talk to you for a moment.
Lieutenant Lawson, can you tell us something about the
accident in which you were hurt?
LIEUTENANT LAWSON: I'm sorry, sir, but I can't.
It might give the Japs an idea of the way in which we
came back to the States. The less they know the
better off we'll all be.
MR. BLAIR: Well, Lieutenant, have you decided
what you want to do when you get out of here?
LIEUTENANT LAWSON: Yes, Mrs. Lawson and I have
been thinking a lot about that, of course. I don't
want a soft job on somebody's shelf. I think I can
do the Army some good in aeronautical engineering. I
worked for three years in the shop and in the engineer-
ing department at Douglas Aircraft before I went into
the Air Corps, and on top of that my type of experience
should help. Just give me a real job when I get out of
here, and I'll be all right.
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MR. BLAIR: Thanks a lot, Lieutenant Lawson. I
certainly hope you get that engineering assignment.
And now, if you don't mind, I'm going to get the low-
down on that Tokyo raid of yours from your wife. Mrs.
Lawson, when did you first know that the Lieutenant
had raided the Japs.
MRS. LAWSON: We were pretty darn sure about it
April 18th, the day they made the raid. The Japs said
the bombers were B-25's, you know. We had seen the
boys practicing with B-25's before they left, and we
knew they didn't go off on & merry chase. After the
accident General Doolittle wrote us as soon as he
could that his head had been hurt.
MR. BLAIR: It's easy to see that you are terribly
proud of your husband, Mrs. Lawson, but I'd like you to
tell us exactly how you feel in your own words.
MR. LAWSON: I can't begin to tell you how proud
I am. He's getting well now, and that's all that
matters.
MR. BLAIR: That's right, now thank you, Lieutenant
and Mrs. Lawson.
Now, let's go over to - Lieutenant Watson is sitting
with his family. They knocked off the top of that cast
yesterday, I understand. How do you feel?
LIEUTENANT WATSON: I'm feeling mighty fine. They
knocked off the top of my cast yesterday, and you should
see my operation. The Doctor did a neat job, and it
won't be many months now before I'll be flying again.
MR. BLAIR: Well, that's great, Lieutenant. What
does your family think about your plans to fly some
more?
LIEUTENANT WATSON: I'd better let them answer
that one. Mother, how do you feel about it.
MRS. WATSON: Well, it's just like this as it has
always been, Harold. We want you to do what you want
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to do. I knew you wouldn't be happy doing anything
else. It's all right with me to "keep'em flying.
MR. BLAIR: Mr. Watson - is he here? Where is
Mr. Watson? Does that go for you, too, sir? Do you
feel that way about your son's flying?
MR. LAWSON: Of course it does. Hal has been think-
ing of nothing else since he was eleven years old. Our
friends used to think we were a little bit off, letting
him do it, but both of us felt that he had the right
to choose his own career. I tried a little once to
discourage him, but I didn't have much luck. He was
thirteen or fourteen years old then and already 8. big
fellow. I told him that flyers had to be small men.
But when I took him over to a flying field to prove
it, some Army planes were coming in and every man who
stepped out of those planes was at least six feet tall
or better. I didn't have a chance after that.
MR. BLAIR: Thank you, Mr. Watson.
Now we'd like to hear from the Lieutenant's better-
half. What do you think about your husband flying again,
Mrs. Watson?
MRS. WATSON: I want him to go wherever he wants
to go. As long as he is in a plane, I feel all right.
Sometimes I have to keep his dinner warm, and once or
twice I had to call in friends to eat it, but I don't
worry - honestly, I don't, because he's the best flyer
in the world.
MR. BLAIR: I'm sure he is. Thank you very much,
Mrs. Watson. Now, I don't think we'll quarrel with you
at all about that. I've never flown with him, but he
looks like he should be able to fly.
Now if you'll pardon us a minute, we'll talk with
Lieutenant McClure and his folks. Lieutenant, you've
got 8. big grin on your face. You must be feeling pretty
good.
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LIEUTENANT McCLURE: I'm feeling fine, and tell
the boys I'll be right back out there swinging the
golf clubs pretty soon.
MR. BLAIR: Well now, do you want to get back in
the air, Lieutenant?
LIEUTENANT McCLURE: Oh, you bet I do. Now I'm
a navigator, but I'd like to pick up pilot training
again if I can--
MR. BLAIR: Well now, Lieutenant--
LIEUTENANT McCLURE: ... but that's up to the Army.
MR. BLAIR: I'm sure it is. I'd like to ask your
mother what she thinks about that.
MRS. McCLURE: Well, naturally, that's up to him,
but if he wasn't flying, it would be something else.
When Charlie was a little boy, he wanted to be a fire-
man. Every once in a while he would say, "Say, mother,
how old do I have to be before I get into that firemen
school?"
MR. BLAIR: Mrs. McClure, when did you find out
that the Lieutenant had been injured?
MRS. McCLURE: Well, General Doolittle wrote us
a very nice letter right after the first detail of the
raid was announced in Washington. I was worried every
minute until I walked into this hospital, but now I
feel all right.
MR. BLAIR: Well, you look all right. Tell me,
are you proud of your son?
MRS. McCLURE: Yes, I'm proud of Charlie. I'm
proud of his achievement, and I'm proud of his courage.
I've been proud of Charlie for twenty-five years.
MR. BLAIR: Well now, this is one time a father
will have the last word. What do you think of the job
your boy did, sir?
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MR. McCLURE: Well, naturally, I feel very proud
of him and thrilled that he was one of those who took
part in such a daring undertaking.
MR. BLAIR: Thank you very much, Mr. McClure.
Now, here is Lieutenant Parker. Lieutenant, what
are you doing in the hospital? You don't look sick at
all. (Laughter.)
LIEUTENANT PARKER: I wish I knew, sir. I'm dying
to get home and see my folds, but the doctor says I'd
better stick around until he's sure I'm O.K.
MR. BLAIR: Well now, tell me, just where are your
folks?
LIEUTENANT PARKER: They're in Livingston, Texas.
MR. BLAIR: Well, you know there's just a bare
possibility they may be listening in to you at this
moment. I'm sure you'd like to say something to them.
What would you like to say to the folks back home?
LIEUTENANT PARKER: Hello, mother and dad, I'm
feeling fine. Give me another week or ten days and
I'll be deep in the heart of Texas. (Laughter)
MR. BLAIR: Thank you.
Lieutenant Sessler, you look like you are in the
same fix pretty good.
LIEUTENANT SESSLER: That's right, sir. We both
got all the way back to the United States and then came
down with malaria. I've been feeling all right for
nearly a week, but the doctor says we've got to stay
here.
MR. BLAIR: Well, we've told our station in Boston
that you'd be on this program, and we asked the station
to advise your parents in Arlington so that they'd be
listening when you said hello.
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LIEUTENANT SESSLER: Hello, mother and dad. I'll
be running around Arlington, Mass. in another ten days.
I'll sure be glad to get home.
MR. BLAIR: Well, ladies and gentlemen, I think
you're as impressed with this ceremony as I am, and I'm
sure these men who say they are going to be home in two
or three days are - well, they know what they are talk-
ing about they know how they feel and they'll really
make it this time.
And now, Lieutenant Pickard, if we don't knock you
over getting out of here, will you come over and tell
us what happened to you at Pearl Harbor?
LIEUTENANT PICKARD: Be glad to. They got me in
the hand, sir, that's all. It was lucky for me that
there was a mighty good surgeon out there at the time.
He saved my hand, and now the doctors back here are
finishing up the job very well.
MR. BLAIR: Mrs. Pickard, is it all right with you
for your son to start flying again?
MRS. PICKARD: Surely, because that's what he wants
to do. It's been seven months today since he's been
in the air, and that's just about to kill him.
MR. BLAIR: Well, thank you very much, Mrs. Pickard,
and thank you all, ladies and gentlemen, and you men who
fight in the air far from home, you mothers and fathers
and wives who watch them go with courage and devotion,
you are America's fighting team. You are the team that
will win this war.
Ladies and gentlemen, after hearing these men speak
to you and tell of their experiences - tell how they
were injured, and so forth, I'm sure that there's not
a better time in the world to present to you now & man
that you all know, Secretary of the Treasury, Henry
Morgenthau.
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H.M.JR: It has been a most unique privilege to
be here at this ceremony and see these men decorated
here today. And for those of us who have to stay at
home and have nothing else to do - who cannot go out
and fight the least that we can do is to back up
these men and millions like them by furnishing the sinews
of war and buying your ten percent of War Bonds; and
I'm sure if each of you who are hearing me now could
have taken part in the ceremony you wouldn't let the
sun set without going out and buying your quota.
MR. BLAIR: Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Morgenthau has
just spoken to you.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, our time is just
about up, but in case you've tuned in late, I'd like
to tell you that you've been listening to a broadcast
coming to you from the solarium of a ward at Walter
Reed Hospital in your Nation's capital. The purpose
of this broadcast was to bring you the first-hand
description of the ceremony in which six men have
received distinction here this afternoon, & ceremony
in which Major General Millard F. Harmon, chief of the
air staff of the Army Air Corps, gave to five men who
were with General Doolittle in his raid on Tokyo, the
Distinguished Flying Cross.
One man with us who was at Hickam Field in Hawaii
on that fateful day of December 7 received the citation
for the Purple Heart. The men who received the Dis-
tinguished Flying Cross were First Lieutenant Ted. W.
Lawson, First Lieutenant Harold F. Watson, First Lieu-
tenant Charles L. McClure, First Lieutenant James M.
Parker, Jr., and Second Lieutenant Howard A. Sessler.
Wallace F. Pickard, Second Lieutenant, Army Air Forces,
received the citation for the Purple Heart.
These men, ladies and gentlemen, are very proud of
their decorations, as well they might be, and I'm sure
that every one listening in to my voice now joins me in
congratulating these men, and we want these men to know
that we're behind them one-hundred percent.
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As the Secretary of the Treasury has just told
you, the least we can de, those of us who are not in
the scrap, is to go out and buy War Bonds and Stamps
and buy them to the limit, not just up to the ten-
percent quota, but buy just as many War Bonds and Stamps
as you can possibly afford. That's the way we will
give these men, when they are back on their feet again,
the instruments with which to win this war for us. So
don't forget, buy your War Bonds and Stamps today.
Your announcer has been Frank Blair, speaking
to you from Walter Reed Hospital in your Nation's
capital. This broadcast originated through WOL. This
is the Mutual Broadcasting System.
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July 6, 1942
2:40 p.m.
TRANSFER OF CLIFTON E. MACK
Present:
Mr. Bell
Mr. Graves
Mr. Thompson
Mrs. Klotz
H.M.JR: This is what I asked you people to come
in for.
Incidentally, this ceremony that was out at the
Walter Reed Hospital was one of the most touching
things that I ever participated in. There were four
men who had been with Doolittle; one man's leg is
gone, his teeth all gone, and he is just as cheerful -
he was stroking his hair - I mean they had me in tears
most of the time. The mothers and fathers, the wives
and the other people were there. And coming in the
fellow winks at me like this, and they had this general
whatever his name is. He never cracked a smile or
anything, but anyway the chief of the air staff was
there, whatever that means. It was a very touching
thing.
MR. GAMBLE: It apparently wasn't broadcast.
H.M.JR: It was Mutual. They made a mistake. A
man by the name of Duffus gave you the wrong informa-
tion. He got it wrong.
MRS. KLOTZ: I hunted for it.
MR. BELL: They decorated them?
H.M.JR: Yes, it was a very touching thing.
MR. THOMPSON: The men that went over Tokyo?
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H.M.JR: Four of them.
Well, I didn't call you in for that, but it was
a very touching thing.
Cliff Mack came to me Friday and said that the Air
Corps has offered him the position of Chief Procurement
Officer for the Air Corps at Wright Field to buy about
a billion and a half dollars a month. This isn't a new
one because he is forty-four . it is not a question of
draft, and so forth. I don't have to ask for a defer-
ment in that.
MR. BELL: He is in the second draft.
H.M.JR: Well, I know, but it will be & long time
before they get those boys.
MR. BELL: William Heffelfinger has just been put
in 1-A.
H.M.JR: Well now, don't get my mind off what I am
talking about. And this is what I thought - I don't
want you to think I am doing it under heat or anything,
but, after all, the time will come where we will have to
maybe ask - I don't know for what - maybe some of the
men to be loaned back to us from the Army, but if it
affects raising the revenue or the taxes, which is our
principal business - I mean, that is our business, I
mean, collecting of taxes and raising the money.
So the thought that was going through my head was
that I might, unless you people disagree with me - that
I might say to Cliff Mack, "Now, Cliff, I can't advise
you; you have got to decide. But I want to tell you that
I am going to ask you and Norman Thompson to make a study
of that part of the procurement which is not strictly
Treasury, like Lend-Lease buying, or buying other than
maybe for Treasury agencies. I don't know just where to
draw the line - look after our own selves. As to
looking after somebody else, we will ask the Director
of the Budget to give it to another department, but I
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can't begin first to find somebody to take your place.
I get another man and if he makes good the Army will
take him, so it is just going to be & constant process.
So why not let's chop off the things which are not
strictly - - having to do with raising and protecting
the revenue? I mean, raising the revenue and pro-
tecting the revenue is Treasury business in war time."
Now, when it comes to some of these other things,
my inclination is let's just take the bull by the horns.
After all, they are going to have four and a half
million men and they are going to be sharp-shooting
for our people. Now, if they ask me for Harold Graves,
the Air Corps, I would say, "No, I need Harold Graves
to raise the money. I don't want to make a general
out of him now." Well, I mean if they want to do
something like that I would say, "No, I need Harold
as head of my War Bonds, or Dan Bell and Norman
Thompson. They may want to make Mrs. Klotz a major.
(Laughter)
MRS. KLOTZ: I would love it.
H.M.JR: If they decide what the uniforms are.
With all of this publicity do you know how many they
have? Less than five hundred.
MRS. KLOTZ: What?
H.M.JR: That is all they would take.
MR. GRAVES: Women?
H.M.JR: Women as officers. I mean, all of this
publicity, all these people, it is less - there are
four hundred and something.
So what do you men think, because I want to see
Cliff Mack before I go home?
MR. GRAVES: I am a little out of date. As I recall,
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they are buying for Lend-Lease, they are buying for
Red Cross, and they are still buying some critical
materials, are they not?
MR. THOMPSON: Strategic and critical materials.
H.M.JR: Something for Agriculture, too.
MR. GRAVES: You mean having to do with war?
H.M.JR: Oh, it was the Red Cross, Agriculture for
the food and us for the - something for the Red Cross,
something for Lend-Lease, and the critical materials.
After all, if we still are buying it should go over
with whoever is doing the critical--
MR. GRAVES: Much of that is done elsewhere,
anyway.
MR. BELL: I suppose - I sign all those contracts,
and I don't see one in ten days now.
MR. GRAVES: You mean critical materials?
MR. BELL: Critical mat erials.
H.M.JR: How about WPA?
MR. GRAVES: We still do that.
MR. THOMPSON: All war agencies other than Army
and Navy.
MR. BELL: That is, all the other departments.
You do the regular buying which, after all, isn't
very big.
MR. GRAVES: We are not doing the buying, simply
making the general contracts under which they buy.
That would be practical, in my opinion, to do that.
H.M.JR: But keep that part of the thing which is--
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MR. GRAVES: Permanent.
H.M.JR: Regular establishments. Yes, I mean, it
would be just--
MR. GRAVES: And WPA.
H.M.JR: I would like WPA--
MR. GRAVES: That is our whole field organization,
and procurement is practically doing nothing but WPA
buying. In other words, we do have the setup for WPA
buying.
MRS. KLOTZ: Supposing he doesn't go?
H.M.JR: He told me he wanted to go. He only would
not go if I asked him not to. He said, "Mr. Morgenthau,
I want to go, but if you ask me not to I won't."
MRS. KLOTZ: Yes, but I was here; I got the feeling--
MR. BELL: He wanted to be asked not to go?
H.M.JR: No. Did you?
MRS. KLOTZ: Yes, that is - no, let me, to be fair
to Cliff - they have been bringing pressure to bear
and he wanted to show you that. I mean if you thought
that that was more important that he would go, but that
he would just as soon stay here with you. He just couldn't
make up his mind.
H.M.JR: Well, Mrs. Klotz, to be Chief Procurement
Officer for the Air Corps at Wright Field where they
do all the buying for all the planes for the United
Nations, I do consider it more important. I mean, I
consider it one of the most important procurement jobs
the Government has.
MR. THOMPSON: If you eliminate Lend-Lease or
include Lend-Lease--
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H.M.JR: Pardon?
MR. THOMPSON: With Lend-Lease - if we retained
Lend-Lease it would be just as important.
H.M.JR: Yes, but - no, not when you see what we
buy.
MR. GRAVES: He just buys the non-military things.
H.M.JR: The Chief Procurement Officer for the Air
Corps, for ourselves and for all of the United Nations,
it is a terrifically important job.
MRS. KLOTZ: What happens after the war?
MR. BELL: He will be back.
MRS. KLOTZ: Where?
MR. BELL: He is entitled to come back here.
MR. THOMPSON: He is just taking a war-time job.
MR. BELL: Under the legislation he is entitled
to his job back if he goes to an agency that has
priority, a war agency.
H.M.JR: What would he come back to?
MR. THOMPSON: Procurement director.
H.M.JR: Who will fill it in the meantime?
MR. BELL: You would have to appoint an acting -
or somebody with the understanding they go back.
MRS. KLOTZ: That is my point. Try to hold it
open for him.
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MR. THOMPSON: They go on furlough.
H.M.JR: I mean, it is opening a whole new field.
I tell you what I think I will do. I will tell Cliff
just what I told you people, tell him to talk it over
with the three of you. How is that? I will have him
come over here - it will only take a minute - at four-
thirty or four forty-five. It will only take a minute,
and then I will tell him Bell will get the two of you
together, go to Bell, and talk with him because it is
not only his job, but it opens the whole thing up. I
mean, if that is going to happen, well then, I would
rather do it. Maybe I should do it anyway.
MR. BELL: You mean, follow out your original
suggestion?
H.M.JR: I mean, maybe that is the thing to do
anyway, or maybe just wait until the Army comes around
and tries to take him.
MRS. KLOTZ: I would wait, because you never know
when something may happen where you would want to have
Procurement do the buying.
H.M.JR: Not the way the Army is going, but I put
Cliff Mack in there so that I could sleep nights. I
didn't know whether he would be a good procurement
officer, but he could smell graft about as far as any-
body.
Now, to start all over again, to look for somebody,
have that additional worry. - the day isn't long enough
now to do the things that I have got to do. I mean,
if he is going to go, I would just rather say, "O.K.,
you draw up something, send it over to the President,
ask him to relieve us of this responsibility."
MR. THOMPSON: I think if he goes that is the
thing to do, reduce the Procurement Division to a peace-
time basis.
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MRS. KLOTZ: I didn't get the feeling that he
wanted to just walk out.
H.M.JR: I did - not walk out, but I got the
feeling he was very keen to do this. But he can talk
it over with these three men quietly. We can talk
about it tomorrow. But I don't want you to think
that this is any trick I am playing because I don't
play tricks - this isn't something that I am doing
to try to keep him. I am going to tell him I think
he ought to go to the Air Corps.
MR. BELL: You are going to tell him that?
H.M.JR: Yes, I think it is more important. No,
I will say this, "You have got to decide between the
two jobs. I think it is more important--"
MR. BELL: I think that is probably right. It
is more important.
H.M.JR: It is more - I mean, which is the more
important? Well, that is more important. He said he
is buying about a couple of hundred million dollars.
MR. GRAVES: A month.
H.M.JR: A month. They are buying a billion and
a half out at Wright Field.
MR. BELL: Quite a difference.
MR. GRAVES: And that is military material, and
his is non-military.
MRS. KLOTZ: But you are closing the door. I get
the feeling you close the door to him. If he changes
his mind and wants to stay he won't be very comfortable
staying the way you are presenting it to him.
MR. BELL: No, I take it he is leaving it to his
discretion, his discretion as to whether he should go.
But if he is asking his advice, his advice is that he
should take it.
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H.M.JR: He asked me to tell him.
MR. BELL: He may ask you can he come back after
it is all over. Under the law he is entitled to come
back.
H.M.JR: Well, that is being fair. This isn't &
shutout. Isn't that what they call it in baseball?
Whoever goes in can go in as acting director.
MR. BELL: Yes, or goes in for the duration as
director.
H.M.JR: So that is being fair.
MR. BELL: It is just like these other appoint-
ments. They are all made for the duration, and anybody
who comes back from the Army goes right back to his
old job and the others go out.
H.M.JR: So the person who goes in will be acting
director, so there is no trick to the thing.
MR. BELL: It doesn't necessarily have to be act-
ing; he could be director, but with the understanding
that when Cliff comes back he--
H.M.JR: Mrs. Klotz thought if he was out he was
out, and this would be sort of putting--
MRS. KLOTZ: He would have to come back and just
take whatever was available.
MR. THOMPSON: Under the law he is entitled to
the job.
H.M.JR: Which I am glad of. He has done a fine
job, in the first place. In the second place, I am
devoted to him.
MR. BELL: A grand fellow. If he goes out there
and does that job he may not want to come back. He
will be in touch with everybody in the country.
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MR. GRAVES: It may kill him.
MRS. KLOTZ: You mean, he may--
MR. BELL: If he does a good job out there, he
will be acquainted with every purchasing officer and
every big factory in the country, and they will wan t
him.
H.M.JR: Well, listen, fellow, after this war is
over as between being with an airplane factory and
having a nine thousand dollar civil-service job in the
Treasury, give me the Treasury, with the retirement fund
and everything else. I mean, if I had to choose, when
the war was over, between a nine-thousand-dollar job,
civil-service retirement, I would choose the Treasury
every time.
Well, thank you for your advice.
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July 6, 1942.
3:45 p.m.
Robert
Rouse:
Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Hello, Bob. I thought that I would tell my
regular press conference at four o'clock
that the financing was going to be two billion
and that it would be - be on Wednesday. Hello?
R:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Is that all right?
R:
I think it's fine. Are you going to have the
books open two days?
HMJr:
Two days.
R:
Did you give any more thought to the suggestion
that you announce it during the day on Wednesday,
then have the books open only on Thursday?
HMJr:
No, we don't like that. The Board didn't like
it.
R:
Well, they're
HMJr:
But I don't have to
R:
....you're going to lose the zip, I think.
HMJr:
What?
R:
You're going to lose - this one day business
has a little zip that you lose.
HMJr:
Well, I don't have to - I can - I don't have to -
I can tell them that it'll be the end of this
week. I'd better give them a day though.
R:
I'd give them a - say you'd planned to announce
it on Wednesday.
HMJr:
Yeah, then you can....
R:
Then - then you can....
HMJr:
We can argue about the other business.
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R:
Sure.
HMJr:
All right.
R:
Do you want to talk now about....
HMJr:
No, I - - I'll call you as I said at four-thirty.
R:
All right, fine.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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3 Mr. Sullivan:
I'd like a prompt reply on this.
H. Morgenthau, Jr.
cc-Mr. Sullivan
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July 6, 1942.
4:16 p.m.
Operator:
Go ahead.
HMJr:
Hello.
Congressman
Gearhart:
Hello, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Hello, Congressman.
G:
This is Congressman Gearhart.
HMJr:
Yeah, I know.
G:
(Laughs) I - Congressman, I - I mean,
Mr. Secretary, I have a little matter on
my mind, impressed and placed there by a
lot of my constituents out our way.
HMJr:
Go ahead.
G:
You know I live in Fresno.
HMJr:
Yes.
G:
That's the exact center of California and the
center of the sweet wine industry.
HMJr:
Yes.
G:
We have heard down in the valley that because
of a shortage in office space in San Francisco
that the Alcohol Tax Unit has been asked to
move out of a certain building it's now in,
and that Mr. Berney, who helps you in matters
of that kind....
HMJr:
Yes.
G:
....18 doing his best to find a new place for
it.
HMJr:
Yes.
G:
Since Fresno's the center of the sweet wine
industry and the center of the stille which
produce the brandy....
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HMJr:
Yeah.
G:
people down our way were hoping we
might move it - that the office might be
moved down there. I know it will be far
more convenient for the vintners.
HMJr:
Is there room there?
G:
Oh, yes. Fresno is a town of about 100,000
people with many class-A office buildings
ranging from ten to twenty stories high.
HMJr:
Well, I haven't been there in thirty years
80 it's grown.
G:
Oh, tremendously, yes.
HMJr:
I was there thirty years ago. It was a
little town.
G:
(Laughs) I'll say, thirty years ago it was
only about ten or twelve thousand.
HMJr:
That's right.
G:
And now it's the center of the metropolitan
city and of an area of about 600,000 people.
HMJr:
What's happened to the Armenian colony that
used to be there?
G:
Well, it's still there and it's become very
American.
HMJr:
Is that....
G:
It's Americanized very, very quickly.
HMJr:
Yeah.
G:
And they pride themselves on doing things as
Americans do.
HMJr:
There's a lot of....
G:
There are about ten thousand Armenian families
in there.
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HMJr:
Yeah, that's what there were.
G:
Yeah. We count them as very good and very
desirable sort of people.
HMJr:
Good.
G:
So I just wondered if I'd go down and lay the
facts
HMJr:
Well, let me look into it
G:
What did you say?
HMJr:
Let me look into it and either I or John
Sullivan will contact you on it.
G:
Well, gee, that will be just fine. It would
not be objected to by Mr. Maloney, the head of
the office in San Francisco. I'm sure that
he'd be delighted to move to Fresno.
HMJr:
Well, I'll look into it right
G:
He just won't take the initiative in it because
he says that - some of his stenographers might
not like it.
HMJr:
Well
G:
(Laughs) You know how that 1s.
HMJr:
Yeah. I'll - I'll have Mr. Sullivan look into
it.
G:
Well, I sure do appreciate it, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Thank you.
G:
Thank you for calling.
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MEMORANDUM
July 6, 1942.
TO:
The Secretary
Jhs
FROM:
Mr. Sullivan
In reference to your telephone conversation with
Congressman Gearhart about moving the Alcohol Tax Unit out
of San Francisco to Fresno, I am advised by Mr. Birney that
there is no intention of moving this office from San Francisco.
Commissioner Helvering advised me that Mr. Berkshire
would object to the office being located in Fresno if it
were necessary to move out of San Francisco.
Do you wish me to wind this up with Gearhart?
yes 1m/
please
Regraded Unclassified
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July 6, 1942.
4:30p.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Mr. Rouse. Go ahead.
HMJr:
Hello.
Robert
Rouse:
Hello, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Well, what does it look like now?
R:
Well, I've talked to a lot of people today,
and it - it's a very confusing picture
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
....and I'm afraid it might be confusing to
you as well as to me.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
There's no clear-cut opinion here....
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
....or, in general, I think the view 1e ex-
pressed by two-thirds of our local banks that
I talked with that a single issue 1s inadvisable.
HMJr:
Inadvisable?
R:
Yeah. The opinion is mixed. They, as far as
themselves are concerned, generally I think
want to - feel they - the bank should stay
within the ten-year period.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
Although individually they wouldn't go out
beyond it, in some cases.
HMJr:
Well, the two percent is within the....
R:
Oh, yes, that's within. Now the only coupon
that seems to arouse any enthusiasm 1s the
two and a quarter percent coupon
HMJr:
Yeah, yeah.
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R:
and that reflects the banks outside the
city.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
But their vice presidents, in going around and
talking to the banks of the country, find that
there is a definite interest in more income
than which a two and a quarter would provide
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
some of them paying two percent on savings
accounts, and so on. When you get to the note
issue, the possibility in a split - if the
offering were split, the interest centers around
a two-year one or, more particularly, I think,
discussed 1s the three-year one and a quarter.
HMJr:
Yeah, well, I don't want to do that.
R:
Hello?
HMJr:
I don't want to do that.
R:
Yeah. Well, they all point out too that the
note market 18 - 1s rather limited in size
because of its restriction to New York. The -
quite a number of people think - of the dealers,
I think more of the dealers than not believe
that you could do it all in one issue of bonds,
and I think more of them would recommend a two
and a quarter than a two.
HMJr:
Yeah. Well, we may have to get to the point
where we're going to tell them.
R:
Well, Miller and I were just discussing it from
that angle, and it may well be that you let them
decide what you're going to do and tell them.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
But that 18 - - that's the picture here
HMJr:
Well
R:
there's very little interest in a two and an
eighth. Usually people would point out the
market situation with respect to the two's in
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R:
1951-55.
(cont.)
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
It's a very small issue, and I don't think it
would represent much of a problem but the -
some of the people are conscious of it.
HMJr:
Well, I'm seeing some tomorrow, and you'll be
seeing some more, won't you?
R:
Yes, we'll be talking more but chiefly with
these same people
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
....and after the thing's jelled overnight.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
But as it stands now, it is a confusing situation.
HMJr:
Okay.
R:
Fine.
HMJr:
Thank you.
R:
Right.
cc-Mrs. Klotz
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July 6, 1942.
4:37 p.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Mr. Welles.
HMJr:
Hello.
Sumner
Welles:
Hello, Henry.
HMJr:
How are you?
W:
I'm fine, thanks.
HMJr:
I've been having a South American fiesta over
here with Brazil and Cuba....
W:
Oh, yes.
HMJr:
....signing rather meaningless gold memoranda
with them.
W:
Oh, yes, I remember, Well, good, good.
HMJr:
What I'm calling up about - remember I called
you up on that question of....
W:
Yes, indeed.
HMJr:
....J.D.C.
W:
Yes, indeed.
HMJr:
Were you able to look into it?
W:
I've taken that up immediately, and I think
I'll be in a position to send you, say, a
written memorandum on it this afternoon.
HMJr:
Well, that will be wonderful. Is there any
chance of doing that?
W:
I think 80.
HMJr:
Well, that will be grand.
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W:
I think 80.
HMJr:
Those poor people are in a desperate
situation.
W:
Oh,I know it.
HMJr:
Yeah.
W:
But I wanted to explore every possibility
before sending you any word.
HMJr:
Right. Well, thank you, Sumner.
W:
Not a bit, Henry. Hope to see you soon.
HMJr:
I hear you - I do too - I hear a gentleman
walked out on you the other day because he
didn't like his table - place at table.
W:
(Laughs)
HMJr:
What?
W:
Yes, I've tried twice to reach him a.e I told
Foley I would speak with him, but each time
he was either out or busy.
HMJr:
Hmmm.
W:
And I haven't talked to him, but I will. I'll
try again this afternoon.
HMJr:
Well, you know in my lifetime that only
happened once. It happened to my father in
Turkey....
W:
Oh, no.
HMJr:
....when General von Saunders....
W:
Oh, yes.
HMJr:
who wanted to be placed ahead of the
Turkish Cabinet....
W:
Yeah, I see.
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HMJr:
decided to pick my father's embassy as
the place to test it.
W:
Yes.
HMJr:
And, of course, the whole question was whether
he, as representing the German Army in Turkey,
outranked the Turkish Cabinet.
W:
Yes.
HMJr:
But that's the only other time I've knownit's
ever happened. But that was important.
W:
Well, I'm particularly sorry to have had a
thing of this kind happen, but it's just one
of those things.
HMJr:
Yeah, well, I think it's bad breeding on his
part.
W:
It's too bad.
HMJr:
I said, bad breeding on his part.
W:
I know. I say it's too bad....
HMJr:
Yeah.
W:
....that it did happen.
HMJr:
All right. I'll look forward to that memo.
W:
All right, Henry.
HMJr:
Thank you.
W:
Goodbye.
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July 6, 1942.
5:17 p.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
He'll be right on. All right, sir.
Judge
Rosenman: Hello.
Operator:
Secretary Morgenthau.
HMJr:
Hello.
R:
Henry?
HMJr:
Yes.
R:
I suppose you've heard, but if not I want to
report to you. This God damn thing's been
signed.
HMJr:
You don't mean it?
R:
Yes.
HMJr:
When you mean "this God damn thing," you mean
that God signed it. (Laughs)
R:
That what?
HMJr:
That God signed it.
R:
Yes, right.
HMJr:
No.
R:
God damned it and signed it.
HMJr:
He did sign it.
R:
Yeah, 80 it's signed. I guess I'll try to get
it released for tomorrow afternoon....
HMJr:
Oh, wonderful !
R:
....released for tomorrow.
HMJr:
All strictly kosher?
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R:
Everything is kosher now. You're all right.
HMJr:
Well, we'll have to have a party now.
R:
Yeah, invite Crowley, will you? (Laughs)
HMJr:
(Laughs)
R:
I told him you loved him, 80 you'd better invite
him.
HMJr:
Did you really say 80?
R:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Did the President know that he got up and left
the table?
R:
No, gosh. I showed him these two letters, one
saying you were happy and the other saying
Crowley was, and he said, "It just can't be true."
HMJr:
Did Crowley write a letter saying he was happy?
R:
Yeah....
HMJr:
He did?
R:
....Markham did for him.
HMJr:
Well I didn't write any letter.
R:
Sure, Foley did for you.
HMJr:
Oh. What other comment did he make?
R:
That's all. He said, "Fine." Oh, yeah (laughs)
we used the word "vest" in here and "cloak" in
the statement, you know.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
He said, "This 18 just like the clothing business."
HMJr:
(Laughs) It's like Bill Bullitt. I was saying to
him about all these kings coming. He said, "Well,
they've got to work at it just like you do at the
cloak and suit business."
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R:
(Laughs) That's very funny.
HMJr:
When am I going to see you and have some gossip?
R:
All right, I suppose you won't invite me around
now until you've got another job to do.
HMJr:
I said, when am I going to see you?
R:
Well, I'm...
EXECUTIVE ORDER
AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 9095
ESTABLISHING THE OFFICE OF ALTEN
PROPERTY CUSTODIAN AND DEFINING ITS
FUNCTIONS AND DUTIES AND RELATED MATTERS.
By virtue of the authority vested in me by the
Constitution, by the First War Powers Act, 1941, by the
Trading with the enemy Act of October 6, 1917, as amended,
and as President of the United States, it is hereby ordered
as follows:
Executive Order No. 9095 of March 11, 1942, is amended
to read as follows:
1. There is hereby established in the Office
for Emergency Management of the Executive Office
of the President the Office of Alien Property Cus-
todian, at the head of which shall be an Alien
Property Custodian appointed by the President. The
Alien Property Custodian shall receive compensation
at such rate as the President shall approve and in
addition shall be entitled to actual and necessary
transportation, subsistence, and other expenses
incidental to the performance of his duties. Within
the limitation of such funds as may be made available
for that purpose, the Alien Property Custodian may
appoint assistants and other personnel and delegate
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to them such functions as he my deem necessary to
carry out the provisions of this Executive Order.
2. The Alien Property Custodian is authorized and
empowered to take such action as be deems necessary in
the national interest, including, but not limited to,
the power to direct, manage, supervise, control or vest,
with respect to:
(a) any business enterprise within the United
States which is a national of a designated
enemy country and any property of any nature
whatsoever owned or controlled by, payable
or deliverable to, held on behalf of or on
account of or owing to or which is evidence
of ownership or control of any such business
enterprise, and any interest of any nature
whatsoever in such business enterprise held
by an enemy country or national thereof;
(b) any other business enterprise within the
United States which is a national of &
foreign country and any property of any
nature whatsoever owned or controlled by,
payable or deliverable to, held on behalf
of or on account of or owing to or which
is evidence of ownership or control of any
such business enterprise, and any interest
of any nature whatsoever in such business
enterprise held by a foreign country or
national thereof, when it is determined by
the Custodian and he has certified to the
Secretary of the Treasury that it is neces-
sary in the national interest, with respect
to such business enterprise, either (1) to
provide for the protection of the property,
(11) to change personnel or supervise the
employment policies, (111) to liquidate,
reorganise, or sell, (iv) to direct the
management in respect to operations, or
(v) to vest;
(c) any other property within the United States
owned or controlled by a designated enemy
country or national thereof, not including
in such other property, however, cash, bullion,
moneys, currencies, deposits, credits, credit
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instruments, foreign exchange and securities
except to the extent that the Alien Property
Custodian determines that such cash, bullion,
moneys, currencies, deposits, credits, credit
instruments, foreign exchange and securities
are necessary for the maintenance or safe-
guarding of other property belonging to the
same designated enemy country or the same
national thereof and subject to vesting
pursuant to section 2 hereof;
(d) any patent, patent application, design patent,
design patent application, copyright, copy-
right application, trademark or trademark up-
plication or right related thereto in which
any foreign country or national thereof has
any interest and my property of any nature
whatsoever (including, without limitation,
royalties and license fees) payable or held
with respect thereto, and any interest of
any nature whatsoever hold therein by any
foreign country or national thereof;
(o) any ship or vessel or interest therein, in
which my foreign country or national thereof
has an interest; and
(f) any property of any nature whatsoever which
is in the process of administration by any
person acting under judicial supervision or
which is in partition, libal, condemnation
or other similar proceedings and which is
payable or deliverable to, or claimed w,
& designated energy country or national thereof.
When the Alien Property Custodian determines to exercise
any power and authority conferred upon him by this
section with respect to any of the foregoing property
over which the Secretary of the Treasury is exercising
any control and 80 notifies the Secretary of the Treasury
in writing, the Secretary of the Treasury shall release
all control of such property, except as authorised or
directed by the Alien Property Custodian.
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3. Subject to the provisions of this Executive
Order, all powers and authority conferred upon to by
sections 3(a) and 5(b) of the Trading with the energy
Act, as amended, are hereby delegated to the Secretary
of the Treasury or any person, agency, or instrument-
ality designated by him; provided, however, that when
any property or interest, not belonging to a foreign
government or central bank, shall be vested by the
Secretary of the Treasury, such property or interest
shall be vested in, and dealt with by, the Alien Property
Custodian upon the terms directed by the Secretary of
the Treasury. Except as otherwise provided herein,
this Executive Order shall not be deemed to modify or
amend Executive Order No. 8389, as amended, or the
President's Proclamation of July 17, 1941, or Executive
Order No. 8839, as amended, or the regulations, rulings,
licenses and other action taken thereunder, or in
connection therewith.
4. Without limitation as to any other powers or
authority of the Secretary of the Treasury or the Alien
Property Custodian under any other provision of this
Executive Order, the Secretary of the Treasury and the
Alien Property Custodian are authorised and empowered,
either jointly or severally, to prescribe from time to
time, regulations, rulings, and instructions to carry
out the purposes of this Executive Order. The Secretary
of the Treasury and the Alien Property Custodian each
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shall make available to the other all information in
his files to enable the other to discharge his functions,
and shall keep each other currently informed as to in-
vestigations being conducted with respect to energy
ownership or control of business enterprises within
the United States.
5. The Alien Proparty : Dustodian is authorised
to issue appropriate regulations governing the service
of process or notice upon any person within any desig-
nated enemy country or any enemy-occupied territory
in connection with any court or administrative action
or proceeding within the United States. The Alien
Property Custodian also is authorised to take such other
and further measures in connection with representing
any such person in any such action or proceeding as
in his judgment and discretion is or may be in the interest
of the United States. If, as a result of any such action
or proceeding, any such person obtains, or is determined
to have, an interest in any property (including money
judgments), such property, less an amount equal to the
costs and expenses incurred by the Alien Property
Custodian in such action or proceeding, shall be subject
to the provisions of Executive Order No. 8389, as amended,
provided, however, that this shall not be deemed to limit
the powers of the Alien Property Custodian under section 2
of this Order; and provided further, that the Alien
Property Custodian may vest an amount of such property
equal to the costs and expenses incurred by the Alien
Property Custodian in such action or proceeding.
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6. To enable the Alien Property Custodian to
carry out his functions under this Executive Order,
there are hereby delegated to the Alien Property
Custodian or any person, agency, or instrumentality
designated by his all powers and authority conferred
upon - by section 5(b) of the Trading with the enery
Act, as amended, including, but not limited to, the
power to make such investigations and require such
reports as he deems necessary or appropriate to determine
whether any enterprise or property should be subject to
his jurisdiction and control under this Executive Order.
The powers and authority conferred upon the Alien
Property Custodian by Executive Order No. 9142 shall
be administered by him in conformity with the provisions
of this Executive Order.
7. In the exercise of the authority herein
delegated, the Alien Property Custodian shall be subject
to the provisions of Executive Order No. 8839 of
July 30, 1941, and shall designate & representative to
the Board of Economic Warfare in accordance with
section 6 thereof.
8. All records and other property (including
office equipment) of the Treasury Department which are
used primarily in the administration of powers and
duties to be exercised by the Mien Property Oustodian,
and such personnel M is and primarily in the adminis-
tration of such powers and and which was hired
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by the Treasury Department after September 1, 1941
(including officers whose chief duties relate to the
administration of such powers and duties), as the
Secretary of the Treasury and the Alien Property
Custodian shall jointly certify for transfer, shall
be transferred to the Office of the Alien Property
Custodian. In the event of disagreement concerning
the transfer of any personnel, records, or property,
the determination shall be made by the Director of the
Bureau of the Budget, pursuant to the formula here
prescribed. Any personnel transferred pursuant to
this Executive Order shall be transferred without loss
of such Civil Service status or eligibility therefor
as they may have.
9. This Executive Order shall not be deemed to
modify or amend Executive Order No. 8843 of August 9,
1941, and the regulations, rulings, licenses and other
action taken thereunder. Any and all action heretofore
taken by the Secretary of the Treasury or the Alien
Property Custodian, or by any person, agency, or instru-
mentality designated by either of them, pursuant to
sections3(a) and 5(b) of the Trading with the enemy
Act, as amended, or pursuant to prior Executive Orders,
and any and all action heretofore taken by the Board
of Governors of the Federal Reserve System pursuant to
Executive Order No. 8843 of August 9, 1941, are hereby
confirmed and ratified.
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10. For the purpose of this Executive Order:
(a) The term "designated enemy country" shall
men any foreign country against which the
United States has declared the existence of
a state of war (Germany, Italy, Japan, Bulgaria,
Hungary and Rumania) and any other country with
which the United States is at war in the future.
The term "national" shall have the meaning pre-
scribed in section 5 of Executive Order No.
8389, as amended, provided, however, that
persons not within designated enesy countries
(even though they may be within enemy-occupied
countries or areas) shall not be deemed to be
nationals of a designated enemy country unless
the Alien Property Custodian determines:
(1) that such person is controlled by or acting
for or on behalf of (including cloaks for) a
designated enemy country or a person within
such country; or (11) that such person is a
citizen or subject of a designated enemy
country and within an enemy-occupied country
or area; or (111) that the national interest
of the United States requires that such per-
son be treated as & national of a designated
enemy country. For the purpose of this
Executive Order any determination by the
Alien Property Custodian that any property or
interest of any foreign country or national
thereof is the property or interest of a
designated enemy country or national thereof
shall be final and conclusive as to the power
of the Alien Property Custodian to exercise
any of the power or authority conferred upon
me by section 5(b) of the Trading with the
enemy Act, as amended.
(b) The term "business enterprise within the
United States" shall mean any individual
proprietorship, partnership, corporation or
other organisation primarily engaged in the
conduct of a business within the United States,
and any other individual proprietorship, part-
nership, corporation or other organization to
the extent that it has an established office
within the United States engaged in the con-
duct of business within the United States.
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11. The Secretary of the Treasury or the Alien
Property Custodian, as the case may be, shall, except
as otherwise agreed to by the Secretary of State, con-
sult with the Secretary of State before vesting any
property or interest pursuant to this Executive Order,
and the Secretary of the Treasury shall censult with
the Secretary of State befere issuing any Order adding
any additional fereign countries to section 3 of
Executive Order No. 8389, as amended.
12. Any erders, regulations, rulings, instructions,
licenses or other actions issued or taken by any person,
agency or instrumentality referred to in this Executive
Order, shall be final and cenclusive as to the pewer of
such person, agency or instrumentality to exercise any
of the power or authority cenferred upon me by sections
3(a) and 5(b) of the Trading with the enery Act, as amended;
and to the extent necessary and apprepriate to enable
them to perferm their duties and functions hereunder, the
Secretary of the Treasury and the Alien Preperty Oustedian
shall be deemed to be authorised to exercise severally
any and all authority, rights, privileges and powers com-
ferred en the President by sections 3(a) and 5(b) of the
Trading with the enery Act of October 6, 1917, as
and by sections 301 and 302 of Title III of the First
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War Powers Act, 1941, approved December 18, 1941.
Regraded Unclas
No person affected by any order, regulation, ruling,
instruction, license or other action issued or taken
by either the Secretary of the Treasury or the Alien
Property Custodian shall be entitled to challenge the
validity thereef or otherwise excuse his actions, or
failure to act, on the ground that pursuant to the
provisions of this Executive Order, such order, regu-
la tion, ruling, instruction, license or other action
was within the jurisdiction of the Alien Property
Custodian rather than the Secretary of the Treasury
or vice versa.
13. Any regulations, rulings, instructions,
licenses, determinations or other actions issued, made
or taken by any agency or person referred to in this
Executive Order, purperting to be under the previsions
of this Executive Order er any other proclamation, order
or regulation, issued under sections 3(a) or 5(b) of the
Trading with the enemy Act, as amended, shall be -
clusively presumed to have been issued, made or taken
after appropriate consultation as herein required and
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after apprepriate certification in any case in which a
certification is required pursuant to the previsions of
this Executive Order.
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THE WHITE HOUSE,
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July 6, 1942.
MEMORANDUM
TO: Secretary Morgenthau
FROM: Mr. Gaston
I am leaving this evening at 5:45 for Minneapolis.
The Secret Service will be able to reach me at any time.
I expect to return for duty (unless called earlier) on
Monday, August 3. I plan to return to Washington on
Friday, July 31.
Subject to your approval my work will be handled as
follows:
Mr. Rose will be in charge of the office and will
handle mail and inquiries and general routine. On political
matters he will consult, when necessary, the political com-
mittee, consisting of Mr. Sullivan, Mr. Foley and Mr. Mr.
Thompson
Helvering. He will be available to report to you on the
status of any matters you left with me.
Mr. Sullivan will take care of my "Assistant Secretary"
signatures.
Mr. Cairns will discuss with Mr. Johnson and Mr.
Anslinger matters of Customs and Narcotics policy, as well
as of law, that may come up in my absence. He will also
represent me on all censorship matters.
Mr. Irey will report to you directly, unless otherwise
ordered, any important investigational matters.
Mr. Harney, Assistant Commissioner of Narcotics, who
is acting as Assistant Coordinator, is handling the special
inquiry you assigned to me at the request of Mr. Graves. I
shall ask him to report on this to Mr. Thompson.
Mr. Johnson will be available to report to you at any
time, either directly or through Mr. Rose, on Customs matters.
Chief Wilson will take up with Mr. Irey matters that he
would normally discuss with me.
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Mr. O'Connell is my alternate on the Attorney General's
Committee on Investigations. I have given him full authority
to act.
Captain Webster of Coast Guard will represent me on
the Board of War Communications as alternate member and Com-
mander Mauerman as Secretary.
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BRITISH JOINT STAFF MISSION
OFFICES OF THE COMBINED CHIEFS OF STAFF
WASHINGTON
AIR STAFF
6th July, 1942.
Dear Mr. Morgenthau,
I am most grateful for your letter of July 3rd and
delighted to hear that the tour of the young British and American
fighting men has been such an unqualified success.
I shall transmit your letter to Air Chief Marshal
Sir Charles Portal and am sure that he and the other British Chiefs
of Staff will be most gratified to know that the selections from the
British services have proved so satisfactory. Such a tour is
undoubtedly & great test of personality and fibre and they will be
pleased to know that such a diversity of ranks has stood that test so
well.
Let me assure you once more that the British Chiefs of
Staff have fully appreciated the value of this tour as an opportunity
of bringing the British Services into closer touch with the American
people and are most grateful to you for the invitation and for the
thorough organisation and generous hospitality which have contributed
so largely to the success of the tour.
May I ask you to convey our thanks to Mr. Kuhn and
Mr. Charles Gilchrist who did so much personally for our men,
Yours sincerely,
Destrin
D.C.S. Evill,
Air Marshal.
The Honourable Henry Morgenthau,
The Secretary of the Treasury,
WASHINGTON, D.C.
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and act feed
is dated 7-10
July 6, 1942
Dear Mr. Swing:
Ferdie Kuhn has shown me the text
of your broadcast to England in which
you spoke with such warmth and under-
standing about the war heroes' tour.
I feel that you have done a real
service in helping the British people
to distinguish between the true and the
false in American attitudes toward them.
This is just to tell you of my deep
appreciation and to congratulate you on
a wonderful job.
Sincerely,
(Signed) 1. Norgenthaw. is:
Mr. Raymond Gram Swing,
Hotel Roosevelt,
2101 16th Street, N.W.
Washington, D. C.
Copies to Thompson
(NMC)
FK/cgk
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE June 30, 1942
TO
Secretary Morgenthau.
FROM
Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.
M
You may be interested in these pages from
Raymond Swing's latest fortnightly broadcast to
England, in which he told the British public of our
welcome to the war heroes. Swing has the largest
public of any broadcaster in England, and what he
said was heard by about eight million listeners.
Please write a teller F.K. for
me to sign to Sevine
Dec 7-6
in this broa dcost it is wonderford
107
On the subject of American attitudes toward the British
something should be said about the experience of the
visiting British heroes, now touring the United States as guests
of the government, along with some of our own men. This has
been 8. revealing experience, and British people, if they
could have witnessed the enthusiasm of the crowds, would
have felt assured about the warmth of American feeling.
Fifteen persons are making the tour, ten of them from Britain.
These visitors are all men of action and of distinguished
services. They are young men, they have no histrionic
talent to speak of, but wherever they have appeared they
have registered something far greater than could have been
achieved by the highest polish of appearance and rhetoric.
They have symbolized deeds and exalted courage and done 80
with simplicity and directness and the most winning modesty.
Wherever the party has stopped, there has been first
a great parade, then a press conference, some entertainment
of 8. formal kind, and finally a mass meeting. At the
meeting, the visitors would stand in line, and the chairman
would read, one after the other, the brief citation of what
each man has done, whereupon he would respond with a few words.
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In every instance the response of the huge crowds was
explosive and deeply moving. Few persons could have taken
part in those meetings, or have seen the parades, who did
not have a quick, heart-catching sense of being partakers
of a moment in history, a great moment, when the war ceased
to be something read in 8. newspaper or heard over the radio,
and became living in terms of individuals who had made great
individual contributions.
Today the tour is drawing to its close on the Pacific
Coast after having crossed the continent. Everywhere the
reception has been excitingly warm hearted. Everywhere the
parades have jammed the streets and crowded the largest
auditorium. The people responded to the visits with delight
and gratitude. They are people who have been following the
war with rapt attention, but now the war was bringing to them
some of its outstanding personalities. The plan was first
conceived at a time when our vast continent was bound to be
thinking of the war somewhat abstractly, and it was promoted
to provide background for the campaign to stimulate the
purchase of government war bonds.
At no moment during the tour was a distinction drawn
between American and British. The tour was called a United
Nations tour. When the heroes stood impressively in their
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line across the platforms of packed auditoriums, the Americans
were not introduced separately, as & play on local emotions,
but 8. man was cited for his bravery at St. Nazaire, then a
man for bravery in the Java Sea, then another for his part
in the raid at Augsburg, and another for bringing down
Japanese planes at Pearl Harbor and 80 on. And when the men
rode in the parade, they were paired not as nationals but as
companions. So the enthusiasm which was evoked--and you can
believe me that it was thunderous--it was for the individuals
first and for the common effort next. And one had a sense of
merger in collaboration. You may have heard about the warmth
of the New York welcome. But this warmth has not been
localized. And & remarkable fact about this tour is that the
two high spots were, of all places, Boston and Milwaukee.
Boston turned out a crowd of seven hundred thousand, the
third largest in its history. And Boston has ranked as one
of the most apathetic cities to the war, and to the British
in particular, because it has such a large Irish population.
But the crowd in Boston was the largest of the entire tour.
Milwaukee, in Wisconsin, has one of the largest populations
in this country of German descent. Here the mass meeting was
sponsored and presided over by men of German ancestry and
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bearing Germanic family names. And here the enthusiasm
was second only to Boston.
If two men stand before an American crowd, and one of
them is an American who has taken part in the bombing of
the Japanese in the Philippines in a historic flight from
Australia, and the other is an English aviator who has had
a part in destroying 8. vital factory at Augsburg, and the
ovation is the same for each of them, that bespeaks more
than courtesy to the British pilot. There is a sense of
common effort in a joint enterprise. And it is well to
remember this tour, as having tested the core of American
emotions, when the evidences appear of criticism over some
specific issue. The one does not deny the other. The
deeply-felt emotions do not preclude the frankest and most
searching inquiry in the days of bad news, and the critical
inquiry does not record a congealing of the deeper emotions...
approv 7116-v2
CITIES THAT WB KNOW NOW FROM OUR REPORTING SYSTEM ARE GOING TO
ENDEAVOR TO HAVE AN ALL-OUT ON AMERICAN HEROES DAY, JULY 17.
RICHMOND
NEW ORLEANS
BOISE
KANSAS CITY 1
OMAHA
ST. LOUIS
DENVER
TRENTON
HARTFORD
BUFFALO
NEW HAVEN
CINCINNATI
SOUTH BEND
CLEVELAND
TERRE HAUTE
COLUMBUS
BOSTON
OKLAHOMA CITY
BIRMINGHAM
SCRANTON
JAMAICA, L.I.
PROVIDENCE
TOLEDO
PEORIA
INDIANAPOLIS
CHICAGO
DEMOINES
SIOUX CITY
WICHITA
LOUISVILLE
DETROIT
DULUTH
TUISA
LANCASTER
JACKSONVILLE
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
M
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
Regraded Unclass
DATE July 6, 1942
TO
THE SECRETARY
FROM TED R. GAMBLE
As I previously mentioned to you, our biggest concern about
the July 17 American Heroes Day is the retail leader in each
community. They have done some splendid work in different sections
of the country, but they have not had a closely knit organisation
and we have been working to try to get responsibility for these
days effectively decentralised so far as the retailers are concerned.
I assured Major Iam and his Executive Committee that your making
available bonds to many of their outlets was occasioned by your
concern and interest in the success of the July 17 celebrations. I
told him further that it would be highly desirable if they would set
aside some of their collateral activities and concentrate on the
success of this day.
I asked Name to make a further poll of retailers in the country
and in answer to this I have received the attached wire from hime
You will probably be receiving direct wires from all parts of the
country in connectionwith this retailer activity. I would appreciate
it if you would have them referred to My office so that I can keep a
check on them.
INDICATED
STAND
RECEIVE
(44)
Postal Telegraph
ORAM on RADIOGRAM 118 URLESS OTHERWISE
THE - A FULL RATE
CABLE
INDICATED BY FYMBOL - THE PREAMBLE
OR - THE ADDITION OF THE MESSAGE
med.) DESIGNATING SERVICE SELECTED
AME - - THE COMMANY'S TAMPY
BOI AND
TELEPHONE YOUR TELEGRAMP
AUTHORITIES
TO POSTAL TELEGRAPH
-
LA590
NC287 RXGR106N 205/204 1 EXTRA GOVT (RUSH) CNJ
X*S=GR NEWYORK NY 3 430P
MR TED GAMBLE WAR SAVINGS STAFF= 709-17 1942 JUL 3 PM 5 Dd 12
UNITED STATES TREASURY DEPARTMENTWASHINGTON DC=
HAVE JUST SPOKEN WITH LEW HAHN, THE MANAGING DIRECTOR OF
NATIONAL RETAIL DRY GOODS ASSOCIATIONs 101 WEST 31 STREET,
NEWYORKCITY, CHICKERING 4-7313 X ALSO WITH DICK MEYBOHM WHO
IS IN CHARGE OF SALES PROMOTION THERE AND THE MAN BEING HELD
RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR TELEPHONE CHECK-UP X MEYEBOHM*S PROGRAM
IS TO MAKE ABOUT FIVE NUNBRED TELEPHONE CALLS STARTING WITH
YE HUNDRED FIFTY LOCAL RETAIL BRY GOODS ASSOCIATIONS X
THESE WILL BE ONED BY CALLS TO ONE HUNDRED FIFTY RETAIL
TRADE BOARDS OF LOCAL CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE X THESE WILL BE
FOLLOWED BY TWO HUNDRED CALLS TOLEADING MERCHANTS IN OTHER
CITIES X IN EACH CASE HE 18 SKING THEM TO SEND A WIRE
DIRECT TO SECRETARY MORGENTHA INDICATING THEIR OBSERVANCE
OF "AMERICAN HEORES DAY". AND STIPULATING THEIR QUOTA X ME
IS SUGGESTING THAT THEIR QUOTA BE NOT LESS THAN TEN DOLLARS
PER CAPITA OF POPULATION X IN ADDITION MEYBONN WILL MAKE AN
INTENSIVE STUDY OF THE FOLLOWING THREE STATES MASSACHUSETTS
OHIO AND MICHIGAN CONTACTING AS MANY CITIES AND JOHNS ss
POSSIBLE X HE WILL MAKE DAILY REPORTS BY WIRE 10 you M
PERSONALLY X ! HAVE ALSO TOLD HEM THAT ME REED NOT
HESITATE TO CALL YOU ON THE TELEPHONE IF NECESSARY
CORDIALLY=
BENJAMIN H NAMM CHAIRMAN RETAIL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Regraded Unclassified
M119
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
July 6, 1942
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY
Attached is a list of the programs on which we are planning
to have special copy used for the American Heroes Day on July 17.
The earliest that we could possibly get transcription mailings to
radio stations on any change in the Treasury Star Parade would be
July 13. Air Express charges would amount to $1700.00. We have
decided, therefore, to send special announcements to each station in
the country for tie-in before and after the Treasury Star Parade
Program, which copy will be in their hands by not later than July 10.
You might be further interested to know that on the night of
July 16 we have a special Navy program of the Wrigley Company dedicated
to the American Heroes Day. This is a thirty-minute program and will
be heard over the 71 stations of the Columbia Broadcasting System.
Ted R. Gamble
FORDEFENSE
BUY
UNITED
STATES
SAVINGS
BONDS
Pearadad
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PROGRAMS TO PROMOTE "AMERICAN HEROES DAY"
AND "RETAILERS FOR VICTORY"
BLUE NETWORK
DAY
DATE
TIME
PROGRAM
Monday
July 13
1:45 - 2:15 P.M.
Hotal Taft
Tuesday
July 14
9:30 -10:00 P.M.
This Nation At War
Wednesday
July 15
8:15 - 8:30 A.M.
Pages of Meledy
Wednesday
July 15
2:45 - 3:00 P.M.
Jack Baker
Friday
July 17
9:30 - 9:45 A.M.
Breakfast Club
Friday
July 17
2:30 - 2:45 P.M.
Jas. G. MacDonald
Friday
July 17
9:30 - 9:45 P.M.
Dinah Shore
COLUMBIA BROADCASTING SYSTEM
Monday
July 13
9:30 - 9:45 A.M.
Four Clubmen
Monday
July 13
2:45 - 3:00 P.M.
Pepper Young
Tuesday
July 14
1:15 - 1:30 P.M.
Woman in White
Wednesday
July 15
11:45 - 12:00 A.M.
Aunt Jenny
Wednesday
July 15
8:30 - 9:00 P.M.
Dr. Christian
Wednesday
July 15
10:00 - 10:30 P.M.
Great Moments in Music
Thursday
July 16
1:45 - 2:00 P.M.
The Geldbergs
Friday
July 17
2:30 - 2:45 P.M.
We Love and Learn
Friday
July 17
7:15 - 7:30 P.M.
Dear John
MUTUAL BROADCASTING SYSTEM
Monday
July 13
1:35 - 1:45 P.M.
Bobby Peters Orchestra
Tuesday
July 14
5:15 - 5:30 P.M.
Man With A Band
Wednesday
July 15
2:30 - 3:00 P.M.
Camp Grant In Review
Wednesday
July 15
4:15 - 4:30 P.M.
Walter Compton
Thursday
July 16
12:30 - 1:00 P.M.
Navy Band
Thursday
July 16
8:00 - 8:30 P.M.
Sinfonietta
Friday
July 17
12:15 - 12:30 P.M.
Sustaining
Friday
July 17
4:30 - 4:45 P.M.
Description of Races
NATIONAL BROADCASTING CO.
Monday
July 13
9:45 - 10:00 A.M.
Music Room
Monday
July 13
3:30 - 3:45 P.M.
Pepper Young
Tuesday
July 14
9:15 - 9:30 a.m.
Hank Lawson
Tuesday
July 14
5:30- - 5:45 P.M.
Three Sens Trie
Wednesday
July 15
6:00 - 6:25 P.M.
Navy Band
Friday
1:15 - 1:45 P.M.
Sketches In Meledy
July 17
Friday
July 17
8:30 - 9:00 P.M.
Information Please
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE July 6, 1942.
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.
Here is a new wrinkle in War Bond promotion,
approved by the Army Air Corps. If you like it, you
might wish to send a letter to Mr. J. M. Kindelberger,
President of North American.
7.K.
117
You
CAN AUTOGRAPH THIS BOMBER!
Every few minutes (our enemies would like to
B-25 Bomber like the first Army plane that sank
duction line. We want you to be à member of
know exactly how often), snother airplane is com-
a U-bost in the Atlantic, and first carried the war
North American's team.
pleted at one of North American Aviation's great
to Tokio.
You are the much and women we're working for,
plants.
Perhaps your name will By with . deadly North
because you are the United States of America-
Sometimes, one of our workers gives it A per-
American fighter, like those that have downed
130,000,000 strong fighting, saving, and work-
sonal finishing touch. He paints on the fusalage
Messerschmits over Europe and Jap Zeto fighters
ing together to de the most worthwhile job in
a single parting word "Tokio," "Berlin" or may-
across the Pacific.
history.
be just his own initials,
We want you to feel the same glow of pride we
NORTH AMERICAN AVIATION, INC.
We want you to be as proud of these planes as
feel, every time another plane rolls off the pro-
Male Plant, inglawood, Cellf.
we are it North American. We'd like to put your
name on one of these planes because you're help-
ing to pay for a by buying Wat Bonds, and by
FIRST
"
lemb
paying taxes.
Here's how you can integraph one of the planes
NORTH
on the Philippines Jap will polizione North
pictured above. Mail VIII # penny postcard, with
American B-25a
your name and New serial number of the next Wir
Sarings Bond you Awy, Address North American
Aviation, Dept. B, Inglewood, Calif. Well Il write
AMERICAN
FIRST to deliver à plane
your name on 4. plane destined to smush the Axis.
under National Defense
Perhaps your name will go on à North American
Sets the Pace
comments
BONDS BUY BOMBERS!
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118
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
DEFENSE SAVINGS STAFF
July 6, 1942
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TO: The Secretary of the Treasury
FROM: James L. Houghteling
I think you will be interested in the attached record of
Pay Roll Savings participation on 90 American railroads, showing the
increased participation which has been secured largely through the
work of joint committees of Management and Labor. As far as we can
figure the average allotments they are running slightly above 5%, but
the reports of joint committees indicate a steady increase in this
factor.
In none of the attached figures is any allowance made
for the considerable number of railroad employes who a number of years
ago adopted the practice of buying U. S. Savings Bonds through their
banks and who have been reluctant to change over into the Pay Roll
Savings Plan. The Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and the Order
of Railway Conductors are especially attached to the bank deposit plan
for buying bonds.
FORDEFENSE
BUY
UNITED
STATES
SAVINGS
BONDS
Railroad Industry
119
Summary of Operation of Payroll Savings Plans in Companies Reporting
to the Treasury during May and June 1942
Month
for which
Number of
Number of
Percentage of
Name of Company
report was
employees
employees
employees
rendered
participating
participating
*The Pennsylvania Railroad Co
April
161,260
65,548
40.6
June 15
160,674
130,664
81.3
*New York Central System
April
121,697
25,906
21.3
June 15
130,223
105,196
80.8
*Southern Pacific Company
April
60,200
15,200
25.2
June 15
60,600
36,932
60.9
*Baltimore and Ohio
April
57,783
31,889
55.2
June 15
57,783
37,525
64.9
Union Pacific R. R.
May
53,000
38,175
72.0
June 15
51,550
41,364
80.2
*The Atchison Topeka & Santa Fe Ry. System
May
52,876
21,096
39.9
June 15
52,876
23,321
44.1
Southern Railway System
April
40,021
10,830
27.1
June 15
40,021
25,613
64.0
*Illinois Central System
April
37,807
24,000
63.5
June 15
36,994
33,298
90.0
*Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul & Pacific
April
32,642
16,182
49.6
June 15
30,350
21,788
71.8
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120
Month
Name of Company
for which
Number
Number of
Percentage of
report was
employees
employees
employees
rendered
participating
participating
Missouri Pacific Lines
April
32,000
7,178
22.4
June 15
35,934
31,635
88.0
Chesapeake & Ohio Lines
April
28,952
3,469
12.0
June 15
25,057
24,343
97.2
*Chicago & Northwestern Line
May
28,100
9,420
33.5
June 15
28,090
19,491
69.4
*Chicago, Burlington & Quincy R. R. Co.
May
26,454
21,321
80.6
June 15
No report available
Great Northern Railway
May
25,622
10,711
41.8
June 15
No report available
New York, New Haven & Hartford R. R. Co.
May
23,009
12,819
53.8
June 15
23,809
14,604
61.3
Erie Railroad Co.
April
23,614
15,180
64.3
June 15
No report available
Rook Island Lines
April
22,887
5,999
26.2
June 15
No report available
Norfolk & Western Railway Co.
May
21,778
18,496
84.9
June 15
22,228
18,292
82.3
Northern Pacific Railway
April
21,271
2,122
10.0
June 15
23,878
8,132
34.1
*Reading Company
May
19,500
10,235
52.5
June 15
19,722
12,313
62.4
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121
Month
for which
Number of
Number of
Percentage of
Name of Company
report was
employees
employees
employees
rendered
participating
participating
Seaboard Airline Ry. & Subsidiaries
May
17,809
8,709
48.9
June 15
No report available
*Atlantic Coast Line R. R. Co.
May
16,937
5,017
29.6
June 15
16,937
8,026
47.4
*Texas & New Orleans Railroad Co.
April
16,503
5,623
34.1
June 15
No report available
St. Louis-San Francisco Ry. Co.
May
16,186
13,022
80.5
June 15
No report available
*Boston and Maine Railroad
April
14,920
12,764
85.5
June 15
14,577
14,139
97.0
Delaware, Lackawanna & Western R. R. Co.
April
14,820
7,300
49.3
June 15
14,810
10,705
72.3
New York, Chicago & St. Louis R. R. Co.
April
12,490
2,200
17.6
June 15
No report available
Lehigh Valley Railroad Co.
May
11,984
4,040
33.7
June 15
No report available
Central Railroad of New Jersey
May
11,500
6,180
53.7
June 15
11,500
6,475
56.3
Wabash Rialway Co.
April
11,372
3,349
29.4
June 15
No report available
Canadian National Railways
April
10,814
2,981
27.6
June 15
No report available
Regraded Unclass
4-
Month
for which
Number of
Percentage of
122
Number of
Name of Company
report was
employees
employees
employees
rendered
participating
participating
Missouri-Kansas-Texas Railroad Co.
April
9,812
6,536
66.6
June 15
No report available
*The Delaware & Hudson Railroad Corp.
May
9,434
2,296
24.3
June 15
No report available
*Texas & Pacific Railway Co.
May
8,731
3,686
42.2
June 15
8,318
5,322
64.0
St. Louis Southwestern Railway Lines
May
7,750
1,288
16.6
June 15
No report available
Sault Ste. Marie Railway
April
7,539
6,135
81.4
June 15
8,374
7,599
90.7
*Western Pacific Railroad Co.
April
6,779
902
13.3
June 15
5,919
4,834
81.7
Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis Ry.
April
6,600
662
10.0
June 15
6,700
2,754
41.1
Pere Marquette Railway Co.
April
6,457
2,380
36.9
June 15
6,654
4,987
74.9
*Elgin, Joliet & Eastern Railway Co.
April
6,100
3,160
51.8
June 15
6,423
5,589
.0
*The Alton Railway Co.
May
5,821
4,010
68.9
June 15
No report available
Central of Georgia Railway Co.
April
5,470
2,565
46.9
June 15
5,470
2,565
46.9
Chicago, Saint Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha Ry. Co.
April
4,900
616
12.6
June 15
No report available
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123
Month.
Name of Company
for which
Number of
Number of
Percentage of
report was
employees
employees
employees
rendered
participating
participating
Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range Ry. Co.
May
4,659
2,116
45.4
June 15
4,650
3,298
70.9
Western Maryland Railroad
May
4,636
4,576
98.7
June 15
4,636
4.593
99.1
*Chicage & Eastern Illinois Railroad
May
4,585
3,560
77.6
June 15
No report available
*Chicago Great Western Railway
May
4,500
2,300
51.1
June 15
No report available
Wheeling & Lake Erie Ry. Co.
May
4,306
3,962
92.0
June 15
4,306
4,140
96.1
*Terminal Railroad Assn. of St. Louis
April
4,233
348
8.2
June 15
4,846
2,314
47.8
Maine Central Railroad Co.
May
4,206
3,641
86.6
June 15
4,405
3,478
79.0
*Kansas City Southern Railway Co.
April
4,190
2,042
48.7
June 15
No report available
Los Angeles Railway Co.
May
4,043
2,433
60.2
June 15
No report available
Washington Terminal Company
May
3,677
2,730
74.2
June 15
No report available
Richmond, Fredericksburg, Potomac R. R.
May
3,662
590
16.1
June 15
No report available
The Western Railway of Alabama
April
3,292
664
20.2
June 15
No report available
Regraded Unclassi
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Month
124
Name of Company
for which
Number of
Number of
Percentage of
report was
employees
employees
employees
rendered
participating
participating
The Virginian Railway Company
May
3,250
1,809
55.7
June 15
No Report available
Union Railroad Co.
April
3,214
1,442
44.9
June 15
3,218
1,465
45.5
Florida East Coast Railway
May
2,843
2,045
71.9
June 15
3,150
2,066
65.6
Spokane, Portland & Seattle Ry. Co.
April
2,760
1,448
52.5
June 15
No report available
Minneapolis & St. Louis Railway
May
2,700
2,418
89.6
June 15
No report available
Louisiana & Arkansas Railway Co.
April
2,417
1,625
67.2
June 15
No report available
*Chicago, Indianapolis & Louisville R. R.
fl
May
2,181
1,286
59.0
June 15
2,101
1,382
65.8
K. C. Terminal Railway Co.
May
1,642
400
24.4
June 15
No report available
Norfolk & Southern Railread
May
1,600
298
18.6
June 15
No report available
*The Belt Ry. Co. of Chicago
May
1,600
1,151
71.9
June 15
1,604
1,162
72.4
egraded Unclas
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125
Name of Company
Month
for which
Number of
Number of
Percentage of
report was
employees
employees
employees
rendered
participating
participating
Atlanta, Birmingham & Coast R. R. Co.
May
1,600
262
16.4
June 15
1,600
375
23.4
Illinois Terminal Railroad Co.
May
1,584
1,108
70.0
June 15
No report available
Banger & Arroostook Railroad
May
1,538
800
52.0
June 15
1,341
848
63.2
*Fort Worth & Denver City Railway Co.
April
1,477
876
59.3
June 15
1,533
1,285
83.8
Cimcinnati Union Terminal Co.
May
1,450
1,081
74.6
June 15
1,450
1,060
73.1
*Colorado & Southern Railway Co.
April
1,342
661
49.3
June 15
No report available
Climchfield Railroad Co.
May
1,326
711
53.6
June 15
1,326
718
54.1
Canadian Pacific Railway Co.
May
1,308
270
20.6
June 15
No report available
*Chicago & Western Indiana R. R. Co.
May
1,250
1,135
90.8
June 15
1,260
1,150
91.3
*Rutland Railroad Co.
May
1,221
593
48.6
June 15
1,221
823
67.4
Tennessee Central Railway Co.
April
1,118
282
25.2
June 15
1,086
970
89.3
Northern Pacific Terminal Co.
April
1,051
365
34.7
June 15
No report available
Regraded Unclassit
-8-
Month
126
Name of Company
for which
Number of
Number of
Percentage of
report was
employees
employees
employees
rendered
participating
participating
*Chicago & Illinois Railroad Co.
May
1,039
948
91.2
June 15
1,120
990
88.4
Ann Arber Railroad Co.
April
1,022
345
33.8
June 15
No report available
Pacific Fruit Express
June 15
3,840
2,860
74.5
Grand Trunk Western
June 15
7,655
3,016
39.4
Central Vermont
June 15
1,570
1,189
75.7
Bessemer & Lake Erie
June 15
3,058
1,321
43.2
Louisville & Nashville
June 15
31,000
20,739
66.9
Kentucky & Indiana Terminal
June 15
1,105
438
39.6
Chicago North Shore & Milwaukee
June 15
1,318
620
47.0
Railway Express Agency
June 15
45,582
41,187
90.4
Misscuri-Kansas-Texas Lines
June 15
10,331
8,007
77.5
Washington Terminal Co.
June 15
3,656
2,837
77.0
New York, Chicage & St. Louis R. R. Co.
June 15
12,930
9,938
76.0
Chicago, St. Paul, Minn. & Omaha Ry Co.
June 15
5,661
5,281
93.0
Total for companies reporting
1,224,523
523,518
42.8
in April and May
Total for companies reporting
as of June 15
1,078,038
787,056
73.0 graded Unclass
CONFIDENTIAL
127
UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS - TOTAL
Comparison of July sales to date with sales during the
same number of business days in June and May 1942
(At issue price in thousands of dollars)
:
July
:
Cumulative sales by business days
Date
:
daily
:
:
:
:
July as
July
June
:
sales
:
:
:
May
:percent of June
July 1942
1
$ 28,418
$ 28,418
$ 29,539
$ 19,981
96.2%
2
24,269
52,687
45,442
39,430
115.9
3
27,277
79,964
67,046
72,048
119.3
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
July 6, 1942.
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on
account of proceeds of sales of United States savings bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily
add to totals.
CONFIDENTIAL
128
UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS - SERIES E
Comparison of July sales to date with sales during the
same number of business days in June and May 1942
(At issue price in thousands of dollars)
:
July
:
Cumulative sales by business days
Date
:
daily
:
:
:
:
July as
sales
:
July
June
:
:
:
May
:percent of June
July 1942
1
$ 15,821
$ 15,821
$ 19,834
$ 12,679
79.8%
2
14,880
30,701
27,841
24,263
110.3
3
16,822
47,523
40,811
46,532
116.4
July 6, 1942.
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
Division of Research and Statistics.
Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on
account of proceeds of sales of United States savings bonds.
Note:
Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessary
add to totals.
Regraded Unclassified
CONFIDENTIAL
129
UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS - SERIES F AND G COMBINED
Comparison of July sales to date with sales during the
same number of business days in June and May 1942
(At issue price in thousands of dollars)
:
July
:
Cumulative sales by business days
Date
:
daily
:
:
:
:
July as
July
June
May
:
sales
:
:
:
:percent of June
July 1942
1
$ 12,597
$ 12,597
$ 9.705
$ 7,302
129.8%
2
9,389
21,986
17,601
15,168
124.9
3
10,455
32,441
26,235
25,516
123.7
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury,
July 6, 1942.
Division of Research and Statistics.
ource: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on
account of proceeds of sales of United States savings bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily
add to totals.
Regraded Unclassified
130
Sales of United States Savings Bonds
CONFIDENTIAL
From July 1 through July 3, 1942
Compared with Sales Quota for Same Period
(At issue price in millions of dollars)
Series X
:
:
Series 7 and G
:
Actual Sales
:
Quota,
Sales
Total
:
:
:
Actual Sales
:
Quota,
:
Sales
:
Actual Sales
:
:
July 1
:
July 1
: to Date
Quota,
:
Sales
Date :
:
:
July 1
:
July 1
:
to Date
:
:
Daily
to
:
to
: as $ of
July 1
:
July 1
= to Date
:
:
:
Daily
:
to
:
to
: as $ of
1
Daily
:
to
Date
Date
:
to
:
:
:
: Quota
: as $ of
:
:
Date
:
Date
:
Quota
:
I
Date
:
Date
#
Quota
1
$ 15.8
$ 15.8
$ 23.6
66.9%
$ 12.6
$ 12.6
$ 19.4
64.9%
$ 28.4
$ 28.4
2
14.9
47.9
64.1
$ 43.0
30.7
9.4
66.0%
22.0
36.4
60.4
24.3
52.7
16.8
47.5
73.0
65.1
32.4
84.3
62.5
3
10.5
50.6
64.0
27.3
80.0
123.6
64.7
b
126.0
82.6
208.6
7
139.3
94.2
8
162.2
233.5
114.5
276.7
9
189.8
129.5
216.0
319.3
10
139.9
355.9
11
236.6
147.7
384.3
13
273.2
160.6
433.8
14
287.6
168.0
455.6
15
311.6
181.8
493.4
16
335.5
193.5
529.0
17
358.7
202.8
561.5
18
377.4
210.5
587.9
20
411.8
223.9
635.7
425.9
231.8
657.7
22
451.1
247.0
698.1
23
477.5
260.1
737.6
24
503.8
270.7
774.5
25
525.0
279.5
804.5
27
562.7
295.1
857.8
28
577.2
304.3
881.5
29
601.3
322.1
923.4
30
625.8
337.5
963.3
31
650.0
350.0
1,000.0
ffice of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
July 6, 1942.
lource: Actual sales figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of sales of
United States savings bonds. Figures have been rounded and will not necessarily add to totals.
Note: Quota takes into account both the daily trend during the week and the monthly trend during the month.
131
Regraded Unclassified
July 6, 1942
Dear Mr. Ransons
This is to acknowledge your letter of July 3. 1942,
pointing out that the memorandum on the repayment of
debts under high tax rates which Mr. Paul submitted at
the request of the Ways and Means Committee on June 22,
1942, has given rise to come misumderstanding with respect
to the Treasury's position. I regret that come of the
newspapers have misinterproted this memerandum to indicate
a position centrary to the President's national economic
policy on the same subject as stated in his message to
Congress on April 27th.
As you point out, the memerandum was morely intended
to present to the Committee a discussion of the various
phases and complexities of the problem. It was net in-
tended as a statement of policy. As a watter of fast,
the memerandum vas not propared with the view to issuance
to the general public, but rather for the private Executive
Secsion of the Tays and Means Committee. After it was
given to that Committee it vas released by someone to -
of the nevepapors, fellowing which it became necessary for
the Treasury to make a general release.
To clarify the point developed in the last paragraph,
the memorandum (a copy of which is attached) was subse-
quently released to the press with a prefatory note which
read as follows:
"It should be emphasised that this memorandum
does not contain any recommendations of the
Treasury but was submitted merely for the
information of the Committee in response to
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questions relating to various subjects, par-
ticularly the debt problem. It is merely a
staff study and dees net insorporate any
policy desisions."
In view of the misunderstanding of the Treasury's
position which has arisen, 11 may be necessary to make
a further clarifying statement. I understand that you
are having a luncheen meeting with Mr. Paul, and the two
of you can them discuss this phase of the matter.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) 1. Morgenthaw. 897
Secretary of the Treasury
Mr. Renald Ransom,
Board of Governors of the
Federal Reserve System,
Washington, D. C.
LS:FD:ec
Regraded Unclassified
:
2
Dear Henry:
Randolph Paul fully protected the invoice -
regarding the memorandum dated June 22, 1940 d die
request of the ays and Means Corritto of the be #: - :
sentatives on the repayment of detts under him tax Tates,
is clear at the beginning of this mécorandèm that 17 EAS sub-
mitted merely for the information of the Condition in response
to questions and that it did not incorporate are poliey declsions,
A number of the papers seem to have name the Transmy position
equally clear in connection with the memorandim, Dub act of the
did not, and there is a feeling, which I 10 10 the SU
to just there the subject matter of this resocarder 1158 into to
President's national economic policy as stated in his
Congress on Acril 27, especially the reventh point relating to
the payment of debt as an anti-inflationicy resource.
It has been most heartening to have your full and help=
ful cooperation in connection with our reaponsibilities in restrain»
ing consumer credit and in our effort to get israonal 266% repuids air
vised 30 of the concern of those endeavoring to ⑇ their debtors
that I "mow you will appreciate our-past tion when uner an
conscious of the President's program. Mds doncern on the part
of the Registrants under Regulation W. is Millied to videspread
publicity surgested to us that it is important that there bell no administrative
given in the press to the memorapitus, and St has been
ing about the Government's position on this nit jesti
Some stories apparently interpret the colorantum 38
that news debtors should cease their of COMPRE
a suggestion strained and incorrect byt 1 folt
this is a should be called to your stremilon an De home
the that patter in some way the Treasury may earbasise 168 posttion
the policy involved in the memorandum,
HISAI
Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.
Regraded Unclassified
BAND DI Govername
FEDERAL RECEIVE SVSTEM
WASHINGTON
OFFICE or THE VICE CHAIRMAN
July 3, 1942
Dear Henry:
Randolph Paul fully protected the Treasury's position
regarding the memorandum dated June 22, 1942 submitted at the
request of the Ways and Means Committee of the House of Repre-
sentatives on the repayment of debts under high tax rates. It
is clear at the beginning of this memorandum that it was sub-
mitted merely for the information of the Committee in response
to questions and that it did not incorporate any policy decisions.
& number of the papers seem to have made the Treasury' 8 position
equally clear in connection with the memorandum, but some of them
did not, and there is a feeling, which I am afraid is growing, as
to just where the subject matter of this memorandum fits into the
President's national economic policy as stated in his message to
Congress on April 27, especially the seventh point relating to
the payment of debt as an anti-inflationary measure.
It has been most heartening to have your full and help-
ful cooperation in connection with our responsibilities in restrain-
ing consumer credit and in our effort to get personal debt repaid,
so that I know you will appreciate our position when we are ad-
vised of the concern of those endeavoring to get their debtors
conscious of the President's program. This concern on the part
of the Registrants under Regulation W is related to widespread
publicity given in the press to the memorandum, and it has been
suggested to us that it is important that there be no misunderstand-
ing about the Government's position on this subject.
Some news stories apparently interpret the memorandum as
a suggestion that debtors should cease their payments. Of course
this is a strained and incorrect interpretation, but I felt that
the matter should be called to your attention and the hope expressed
that in some way the Treasury may emphasize its position regarding
the policy involved in the memorandum.
Sincerely,
Renald Ransom
Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.
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134
treasury department
WASHINGTON
OFFICE OF
COMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE
ADDRESS REPLY TO
COMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE
AND REFER TO
JUL =6 1942
GC:E:LAD
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY:
In re: William Bioff V. Commissioner
B.T.A. Docket No. 111249
The following case is now pending before the Bureau
of Internal Revenue:
1. William Bioff V. Commissioner, B.T.A. Docket No.
111249, for the redetermination of a deficiency
in income tax in the amount of $9,200.56, plus
$4,600.28 fraud penalty, for the year 1938.
Although a petition was filed by the taxpayer
it has not as yet been accepted by the Board
because of the failure to pay the $10 filing
fee. An order to show cause has been issued,
returnable July 15.
Under the authority of paragraph 12 of Mimeograph
Coll. No. 4960 R.A. No. 1014, approved by you under date
of September 14, 1939, the foregoing case has been ex-
cepted from the decentralization procedure for reasons
stated in the memorandum of withdrawal, a copy of which
is herewith attached.
Commissioner.
Enc.
Mem.
135
GC:EtLAD
JUL 1942
MR. COMMISSIONER:
In ret William Bioff V. Commissioner
B.T.A. Docket No, 111249
1. William Bioff Ve Commissioner, B.T.A. Docket No. 111249,
for the redetermination of a deficiency in income tax
in the amount of $9,200.56, plus $4,600.28 fraud penalty,
for the year 1938. Although a petition was filed by the
taxpayer it has not as yet been accepted by the Board
because of the failure to pay the $10 filing fee. An
order to show cause has been issued, returnable July 15.
This office recommends withdrawing the foregoing case, now
docketed before the Board of Tax Appeals, from the jurisdiction
of the Staff Field Division at Los Angeles, California. The
disposition of this case may then be had under our joint direction
pursuant to the provisions set forth in "Functions and Jurisdict-
ions of the Field Divisions of the Technical Staff" dated Septem-
ber 14, 1939.
This recommendation is made for the following reasons: the
taxpayer is now under indictment for attempting to defeat and
evade his income taxes for the years 1936 and 1937, arising from
the failure to report certain income alleged to have been received
from Joseph M. Schenck of 20th Century Fox Film Corporation. The
income alleged to have been omitted by the taxpayer from his 1938
return is that allegedly received in connection with extortion
payments received from & number of motion picture producing 002-
panies and individuals, including Joseph M. Schenck. Investiga-
tion is now proceeding with respect to the tax liabilities of
these various companies in connection with extortion payments
made during a period of several years, including the year 1938.
The interests of the Government will be best served if the
above described Board case is centrally administered along with
a number of other matters involving the motion picture industry.
J. P. WENCHEL
Chief Counsel
APPROVED: JUL 1942
Bureau of Internal Revenue
(Signed) Guy T. Helvering
Commissioner
136
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
July 6, 1942
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY:
You asked the other day for certain information
about Mr. James Sauter.
I find that R. C. A. has retained the firm of
Blackett, Semple, and Hummert, and that Sauter is
assigned by the firm to handle the R. C. A. account.
I attach a memo about Sauter's tax returns,
showing his income for the years 1938 and 1939.
A
GRAVES.
FORYICTORY
BUY
UNITED
STATES
BONDS
TAMES
137
SAUTER, JAMES E.
1940 return is with Revenue Agent in Charge of 3d New York
District, for routine examination.
1939 Total income was
$53,502.77
Net income
49,220.67
Tax
9,194.78
Salary as "radio executive"
10,027.77
Dividends from "Air Features,
Inc.," and Feature Artists
43,125.00
1938 Total income
$18,495.91
Net income
15,911.18
Tax
1,222.45
Salary
8,412.28
Dividends from "Air Features, Inc.,"
and "Feature Artists"
12,000.00
Interest
262.50
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
138
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE
July 6, 1942
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM
Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.
The attached report from Mr. Mack will
explain the circumstances of the recording
contract that was mentioned to you at the broadcast
with Speaker Rayburn last week.
This was entirely a Procurement award, made on
a lowest bid basis. Mr. Callahan had tried hard to
have the award made to the N.B.C. recording service,
but Procurement ruled otherwise.
achment
3n F.K.
139
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
PROCUREMENT DIVISION
OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR
WASHINGTON
July 3, 1942
MEMOPANDUM.,FOR THE ASSISTANT TO THE SECRETARY, MR. KUHN
Re: Award Allied Record Manufacturing Company
Reference is made to your request for a report in re-
gard to the award of contract to the Allied Record Manufacturing
Company.
Award was made to the Allied Record Manufacturing
Company for recording and transcription service for the period
September 1, 1941 to August 31, 1942. The accepted bid was the
lowest bid received on the basis of the evaluation of bids as
set forth in the advertisement.
The award was protested to the Secretary of the Treasury
by the National Broadcasting Company, Incorporated, letter August 22,
1941. A protest was also filed with the Comptroller General of the
United States.
The National Broadcasting Company, protesting bidder, was
advised in letter of September 10, 1941 that in view of the protest
filed with the Comptroller General no further action would be taken
by the Treasury Department.
The Comptroller General advised the National Broadcasting
Company under date of January 13, 1942 that there was no proper
basis for questioning the conclusion of Procurement Division of the
Treasury Department that the bid of the Allied Record Manufacturing
Company was the most advantageous to the Government.
PVICTORY
BUY
UNITED
STATES
Jones Clifton E. Back
Director of Procurement
BONDS
AND
STAMPS
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY
WASHINGTON
ADDRESS REPLY TO
COMPTROLLER or THE CURRENCY"
July 6, 1942
MEMORANDUM
To:
Secretary Morgenthau
From:
Mr. Delano
We are in receipt of an application for a
branch of the Bank of America N. T. & S. A. to
be located at 14528 Ventura Boulevard, Sherman
Oaks, Los Angeles, California. Similar appli-
cations by the Bank of America for a branch at
this location have twice been received and twice
rejected. There has been no essential change in
the situation. This community already has adequate
banking facilities and the establishment of the
proposed branch would materially affect pioneer
banking institutions now operating in adjacent
territory.
Disapproval is recommended.
Prentied clans
Preston Delano
.n.
Comptroller of the Currency
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141
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
CONFIDENTIAL
DATE July 6, 1942
TO
FROM
Mr. Haas
Secretary BA Morgenthau
Subject:
The Business Situation,
Week ending July 4, 1942.
Summary
(1) The real test of the price ceiling program will not
come until consumers find that stores no longer have ample
inventories of goods, but the first indication of a break in
retail ceilings appeared last week when the OPA permitted an
increase of 2à cents a gallon in gasoline prices in the Eastern
States, and stated that retail prices of canned and dried
fruits would be raised by 15 percent or more. These precedents,
together with other developments, may offer a grave threat to
the effectiveness of the price control program.
(2) Certain other situations also are potentially infla-
tionary: (a) The steel wage rate case, now pending before the
War Labor Board, will establish a wage trend that will doubtless
be widely followed in industry. (b) Pressure toward raising
living costs will become stronger if the House Conference group
succeeds in establishing basic crop loans at 100 percent of
parity. (c) Reduced supplies of textiles for civilians will
put additional upward pressure on retail clothing prices.
(3) Commodity price indexes recently have continued to
move within a narrow range. The BLS all-commodity wholesale
price index in the week ended June 27 regained the 0.3 point
loss of the preceding week and stood at 98.4. The BLS index
of basic commodity prices last week rose slightly.
(4) Factory employment and payrolls in May rose to new rec-
ord highs. Factory payrolls continued to advance more rapidly
than employment as a result of increased average earnings.
(5) National income payments in May expanded to an annual
rate of $109.3 billions. This compares with $108.5 billions
in the previous month and $89.7 billions a year earlier. The
purchasing power of national income payments, however, held
virtually unchanged, due to a parallel rise in the cost of
living.
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142
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Retail price ceilings lifted
The price ceiling plan as an aid to inflation control has
not yet faced a real test, since the pressure of consumer de-
mand has slackened considerably over the past several months,
and stores have continued to carry ample inventories of most
goods built up from past production. Some evidence of weaken-
ing in the price ceiling structure, however, appeared last week.
The Price Administrator announced during the week that retail
prices of canned and dried fruits of the 1942 pack could not be
maintained at present ceilings, unless prices to growers are
fixed at lower prices (which 18 prohibited by the Price Control
Act) or subsidies are granted by Congress. Lacking such con-
trols, he said that retail prices of such fruits must be raised
by 15 percent or more. Earlier in the week an increase in the
retail price of gasoline amounting to 21 cents & gallon had been
allowed in the Eastern States.
Since these precedents are being established, and since
the appropriation requested by the OPA for enforcement of price
control measures has been drastically reduced, there 16 grave
danger that the effectiveness of the price ceilings may be
seriously weakened. Difficult as their enforcement will be in
any case, the difficulties would, of course, become much greater
if it should appear that the ceiling plan is breaking down.
It seems quite likely that the failure of the OPA to main-
tain retail prices may prove & shock to housewives, who had
curtailed their buying in recent months when the price ceiling
order had apparently removed the threat of higher prices. The
direct warning that prices of canned fruits will be raised when
the 1942 pack comes onto the market may lead to another buying
movement in food stores.
Other developments
Three other situations offering potential inflationary
threats were prominent in the news last week: (1) the steel
wage rate case, (2) the insistence by the House Conference group
on 100 percent of parity loans to farmers, and (3) prospective
sharp curtailment in the production of textiles for civilian
use,
The decision to be made by the War Labor Board in the
steel rate involving demande for a wage increase of
$1 a day wage in the Bethlehem, case, Republic, Youngstown, and Inland steel
widely followed in the steel industry and in industries generally.
companies, will establish a wage trend that 1s expected to be
A decision will be made soon by the War Labor Board, following
last week's report by the Board's fact-finding panel which, in
effect, recommended the increase.
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143
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The fact-finding panel reported that all four steel com-
panies were able to pay the wage increase, as measured by
their incomes before taxes. It was pointed out that most of
the wage increase -- 94 percent under the Ways and Means
Committee tax proposals -- would be paid by the Treasury in
reduced corporation taxes, since the earnings of the four
companies are within the scope of the House excess profits
tax.
The insistence of the House Conference group that a pro-
vision for 100 percent of parity loans for 6 major farm crops
be included in the Department of Agriculture appropriation
bill, unless the Senate group recedes from its amendment per-
mitting the sale of Government wheat below parity for feeding
purposes, is potentially inflationary in that such loans
would raise prices of important cost-of-living items. Prices
of cotton, wheat, corn and peanuts, now below parity, would be
raised by the loans -- wheat by as much as 40 percent.
Such loans would affect not only the prices of cotton
goods, flour, bread, and other items made directly from these
products, but would also affect the prices of meats, butter,
eggs, and other livestock products dependent upon corn and
wheat as feedstuffs. While prices of & number of these items
are controlled by price ceilings, pressure would nevertheless
be exerted on prices, which might require revisions of the
ceilings.
Curtailment in civilian textiles
Price control will be made more difficult in the months
ahead by prospective curtailment in the supplies of textiles
and clothing for civilian use. Added to the shortage in
woolen goods, which has necessitated various restrictions on
the production of civilian clothing, a reduction in civilian
supplies of cotton and rayon goods is putting increased pres-
sure on clothing price ceilings. Clothing prices in recent
months have risen more rapidly than food prices. The BLS
cost-of-living index shows a rise of 10.2 percent in clothing
costs from December 15 to May 15, as compared with a rise of
7.5 percent in food prices during that period. Relatively
large retail and distributors' stocks of textiles and clothing
have helped thus far to prevent an even greater rise.
In cotton goods, a joint survey by the OPA and WPB indi-
cates that at least 50 percent of the production in 1942 will
be for military purposes, or A-rated orders, as compared with
20 percent in 1941. This will leave a supply for civilian
uses (including various indirect defense needs) which will be
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144
the smallest since the depression year of 1932. The amount
available for civilian use in 1942 is estimated at 6,800 mil-
lion square yards, as compared with 8,073 millions last year
and an average of 8,467 millions in the previous five years.
Rayon supplies are being diverted increasingly to war
uses. The pinch in civilian rayon goods 1s likely to make
itself felt by August, according to trade comments, this being
normally the heavy month of producing fall fabrics. Shipments
of civilian goods by some mills are reported already to be as
much as 60 percent below last year.
Canadian cost-of-living index under fire
Rural housewives and others in Canada do not believe the
Dominion price ceiling has held prices down as the official
cost-of-living index reports, according to a digest of complaints
from various sources published by the Financial Post of Toronto.
It is charged that all price changes are not being reported by
storekeepers; that even if prices are nominally unchanged,
there has been deterioration in the quality of merchandise,
equivalent to an increase in prices; and that fewer bargain
sales, and declining stocks of merchandise in "low-priced"
stores, result in customers paying substantially more for simi-
lar goods than they did during the "base" period.
An unusual delay in publishing the official Canadian cost-
of-living index as of June 1 has apparently been associated
with an investigation of these criticisms by the Dominion
Bureau of Statistics through a survey in some of the larger
cities. Reports coming to Ottawa, according to the Financial
Post, reveal an amazing unconcern among many retailers on the
reporting of price increases. Moreover, the official cost-
of-living index does not reflect price movements in rural
communities, 80 that it is quite possible that prices may be
rising in village stores in violation of the ceilings. The
majority of complaints reported to officials in various parts
of the country are concerned primarily with "black market"
operations in commodities that are in short supply.
Wholesale price level slightly higher
During the seven weeks' operation of over-all price ceilings
only minor fluctuations have occurred in the general wholesale
price level. In the week ended June 27, the BLS all-commodity
index regained the loss of 0.3 percent of the week before, and
at 98.4 the index is still within its range since mid-April.
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145
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Basic commodity prices continue rise
Last week the BLS price index of 28 basic commodities rose
for the fourth successive week. (See Chart 1.) Led by in-
creases in the prices of cotton and livestock, the index of
8 uncontrolled commodities rose also, reversing a six-week
decline which began shortly after the general maximum price
regulation was applied.
A8 a result of light receipts and continued heavy Govern-
ment pork and lard purchases, and buying by Eastern shippers
to meet a strong demand for pork along the Atlantic Seaboard,
hog prices reached a new sixteen-year high. Cotton prices were
strengthened by mill buying. Although barley and flaxseed
prices again were off from their season's high levels, prices
of wheat, corn, and butter increased. The index of 20 controlled
commodities declined slightly, owing to a substantial decrease
in the price of gum rosin, although cottonseed oil and wool
prices increased moderately.
Record domestic and world wheat supplies
Wheat prices recently have recovered a little from the
decline begun in mid-March, which carried prices to the
lowest levels since last October. The slight recovery 18
attributed by the Department of Agriculture in part to the
increase in facilities provided by the Commodity Credit
Corporation to store a part of our record supplies, which
will permit a larger quantity of 1942 wheat to be placed
under loan. The Department believes it likely that more than
half of the record carryover on July 1, 1942 will be under
Government control or under loans. In addition, if space
can be obtained, a quantity approaching half of the new crop
may be stored.
In order to increase storage facilities for wheat, the
Commodity Credit Corporation has contracted to purchase 100
million bushels of bin space made of non-metals, with deliv-
eries to be completed before July 31. In addition, about
33 million bushels of bin storage was to have been moved
by July 1 from Corn Belt States into three spring wheat
States and three winter wheat States. Trucks moving these
bins have been carrying a return load of feed wheat for
storage in the Corn Belt.
As a result of large world crops and restricted trade,
a new record in world wheat supplies is expected in 1942.
Of interest in this connection 18 the plan for control of
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146
- 6 -
production and distribution of wheat during and after the
war, made public by the State Department last week. The
plan constitutes an agreement, effective June 27, for
cooperation among the United States, Australia, Canada,
United Kingdom, and Argentina, in providing for establish-
ment of an international pool of 100 million bushels of
wheat for relief purposes in stricken war areas, and the
maintenance or the establishment of controls of production
and stocks. It also calls for international price fixing
of wheat.
Farm product prices more stable
Average prices received by farmers as of June 15 were
practically unchanged from those received in April and in
May. This is the most extensive levelling out that has
occurred in more than a year. Prices paid by farmers as
of June 15 were unchanged from a month earlier. As a net
result, prices of farm products averaged 99 percent of
parity, the same as in mid-April, and 1 point below that of
mid-May. The index of farm wages, which are not included
in the index of prices paid, rose 3.4 percent since April,
when last reported.
The price movements for farm products as a group and
for important individual commodities in the first half of
1942, and in the full years of 1940 and 1941, are shown in
Chart 2. Substantial declines occurred in prices for cotton
and cottonseed, grains, and dairy products. Fruit prices
rose sharply, and prices were higher for chickens, eggs, and
meat animals.
Industrial production index at 180
indicate that the FRB index of industrial production increased
Preliminary estimates of the Federal Reserve Board
4 points further in June to 180. (See Chart 3.) Last June
the index stood at 159, and three years ago, in the pre-war
month of June 1939, the index was only 103.
Most of the increase in industrial production in June,
of course, was in the machinery, transportation equipment,
chemical, and other armament industries. The output of non-
durable goods showed little change from the May rate.
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147
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Factory employment and payrolls at new highs
Both factory employment and payrolls rose to new peaks
in May, although the expansion in payrolls was much sharper
than in employment. (See Chart 4.) This tendency has been
in evidence over an extended period, in reflection of longer
working hours, overtime payments and higher wage rates. Thus,
factory payrolls in May were nearly 34 percent above year-
earlier levels while employment was only 10 percent higher.
Since May 1940, just before the long upswing in the defense
program got under way, factory payrolls have nearly doubled
while factory employment has increased about one-third.
Despite the wage stabilization feature of the President's
anti-inflationary program, demands for wage increases continue.
Prominent among these demands are those of the workers in the
"Little Steel" companies and automobile workers of General
Motors and Ford. An increase in wages of commercial shipyard
workers 18 going into effect during the current month, when
wage rates of U. S. Navy Yard civilian workers are raised to
conform to increases granted by private yards. It 1s said
that the pay adjustment will add more than $1,000,000 per week
to the pay envelopes of 250,000 civilian employees at U. S.
Navy Yards and shore stations.
In reflection of the further expansion of factory pay-
rolls, estimated average weekly earnings of factory workers
also rose to a new peak in May. (Refer to Chart 4.) By mid-
May, weekly earnings were nearly 22 percent above the correspond-
ing period of 1941 and were nearly 48 percent above the levels
prevailing in May 1940.
Further rise in national income payments
The upswing in salaries and wages has been the dominant
factor in the rising tide of national income payments, which
reached a new high in May at an annual rate of $109.3 billions.
(See Chart 5.) This compares with $108.5 billions in the
previous month and $89.7 billions a year earlier. In contrast
with the recent record high, national income payments in May
1940 (at the beginning of the defense program) were running at
an annual rate of only $75.2 billions, the expansion during the
2-year period thus amounting to more than 45 percent.
The further moderate gain in income payments during May
was accompanied by an increase in living costs of approximately
the same proportions. As a result, the estimated purchasing
power of national income payments in May was virtually unchanged
from the previous month. (Refer to Chart 5.)
Regraded Unclassified
MOVEMENT OF BASIC COMMODITY PRICES
1941
1942
PERCENT
PERCENT
August 1939-100
190
190
185
185
8 Uncontrolled Commodities
IBO
180
175
175
170
28 Commodities
170
165
165
160
160
20 Controlled Commodities)
155
155
150
150
145
145
140
140
SEPT.
NOV
JAN.
MAR.
MAY
JULY
SEPT.
NOV.
1941
1942
PERCENTAGE CHANGE DEC. 6, 1941 TO JUNE 26 AND JULY 3, 1942
PERCENT
PERCENT
20 Controlled
8 Uncontrolled
Hoge 44.2%
+45
Commodities
+45
Commodities
+40
+40
+35
+35
Flavered 347x
+30
+30
+25
+25
+20
Lard 19/x
+20
Com MSS
Shellac /18%
+15
Lood IIIX
+15
Cotton 1442
Milbain 87%
Cottonesed Oil un
*10
Tollow 79%
+10
Print Cloth 70%
Steers an
Sugar 6.9%
Barley A-EX
Zine 2%
+5
+5
Butter 5.8x
0% Change
Hides. Salk,
Tin, Rubber,
o
o
Coffee, Copper,
St. Screptom,
St Scrap,exp
Wheat -171
- 5
- 5
Coooo #X
Buriap ax
Who/ Tope -54%
-10
-10
-
Dec 6
June 26
July 3
Dec. 6
June 26
July 3
1941
1942
1942
1941
1942
1942
148
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
Desee of Reserrch - Statistics
Regraded Unclass
AVERAGE PRICES RECEIVED BY FARMERS: GRAPHIC SUMMARY FOR THE UNITED STATES
INDEX NUMBERS ( AUG. 1909-JULY 1914=100)
175
175
175
ALL FARM PRODUCTS
GRAIN
COTTON AND COTTONSEED
150
150
150
1941
125
1948
125
125
100
100
100
1940
PERCENT
75
PERCENT
75
PERCENT
75
175
MEAT
DAIRY PRODUCTS
CHICKENS AND EGGS
ANIMALS
150
150
150
125
125
125
100
*
100
100
75
75
J. F. M. A. M. J. J. A. s. 0. N. D.
J. F. M. A. M. J. J. A. 9. 0. N. D.
J. F. M. A. #. J. J. A. 5. o N. o
ACTUAL PRICES
90
140
180
CORN
WHEAT
RICE
80
120
150
CENTS PER BUSHEL
1942
1941
70
64.2
CENTS PER BUSHEL
100
80
CENTS PER BUSHEL
120
88.4
60
90
81.3
1940
50
60
60
20
COTTON
WOOL
BUTTERFAT
CENTS PER POUND
10
CENTS PER POUND
40
12.4
30
CENTS PER POUND
40
15
30
26.3
5
20
18.8
20
12
HOGS
12
BEEF CATTLE
LAMBS
DOLLARS PER 100 POUNDS
10
DOLLARS PER 100 POUNDS
10
10
8
8
7.93
CENTS DOLLARS PER 100 POUNDS
8
6
6
6
6.21
.
5.87
4
4
4
CHICKENS
EGGS
APPLES
16
40
CENTS PER POUND
14
CENTS PER DOZEN
PER BUSHEL
140
30
100
12
21.8
96.0
11.4
20
10
60
J. F. M. A. M. J. J. A. s. o. N. D.
J. F. M. A. N. 1. J. J. A. 5. o. N. D.
J. F. M. A. M. J. J. A. s. o IL D.
. YEAR AVERAGE. AUGUST 1900-JULY 1914
149
Regraded Unclass
F.R.B. INDEX OF IND STRIAL PRODUCTION
1935-39=100, Seasonally Adjusted
1939
1940
1941
1942
1943
PERCENT
PERCENT
190
190
180
180
170
170
160
160
150
150
140
140
130
130
120
120
110
110
100
100
90
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J
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$
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1940
1941
1942
1943
150
Chart 3
Office of the Secretary of the Truesery
Division of - -
C-349-A
Regraded Unclassifie
FACTORY EMPLOYMENT, PAYROLLS AND WAGES
FIRST 6 MONTHS OF 1939 = 100, UNADJUSTED
1939
1940
1941
1942
PER
PER
CENT
CENT
220
220
200
200
180
180
PAYROLLS)
160
160
Est
140
140
EMPLOYMENT
120
120
100
100
AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS
OF FACTORY WORKERS
80
80
J
M
M
J
5
N
J
M
M
J
$
N
J
M
M
J
5
N
J
M
M
J
5
N
1939
1940
1941
1942
SOURCE: B.L.S.
151
Chart 4
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
Division of Research and Statister
C . 414
Regraded Unclassified
NATIONAL INCOME AND ITS EQUIVALENT PURCHASING POWER
1939
1940
1941
-1942
DOLLARS
DOLLARS
Billions
Billions
Monthly
115
115
110
110
105
105
100
National Income
100
95
95
90
90
85
85
Purchasing Power of
National Income
-
80
80
75
75
70
70
A S o N D J F M A M J J A $ o N D J F M A M J J A $ o N D J F M A M J J A SOND
1939
1940
1941
1942
*Besed on cost of living index of B.L.S. Aug. 1939-100
152
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury
Chart 5
Division of Research and Statesties
C-415-A
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153
OFFICE OF PRICE ADMINISTRATION
For Immediate Release
Monday, July 6, 1942
OPA - 206
The Amalgamated Sugar Company was accused today by Price Administrator
Leon Henderson, of using incomplete and inaccurate information to make sugarmationing
the goat in explaining to beet sugar growers the company's failure to make its usual
supplemental payments to them.
Mr. Henderson's charges were contained in a letter which he wrote to
H. A. Benning of Ogden, Utah, vice president of the company, challenging statements
nade over his signature in a circular letter to the company's beet growers. Mr.
Henderson directed that his letter be made public.
The company's circular letter, Mr. Henderson said, stated that it sales
of sugar for the eight months ending May 31, 1942 were only 42 percent of the total
sugar on hand on October 1 and subsequently produced from the 1941 crop, and that
sales during the same period of the previous year were 68 percent above this year's
sales. "It is interesting to note that total deliveries of beet sugar during this
period declined only 16 percent, "Mr. Henderson said, calling this fact an indication
that the company's selling policy or some cause other than the reduction of deliver-
ies under the rationing program was responsible for the low deliveries of the con-
pany during this period.
Mr. Henderson pointed out that OPA early recognized that reduction of
sugar shipments from the off-shore producing areas would require that the beet sugar
industry furnish supplies to consumers outside its normal marketing areas, and that
the excess transportation costs thus involved would require Government assistance
if the prices of sugar were not to be increased unduly. It therefore sent telegrams
June 9 to all western sugar beet companies "offering to assist them in the movement
to deficit areas in the East, of quantities of sugar in excess of the quantities
with respect to which arrangements had already been made." The companies were asked
to specify how much sugar they desired to nove to territory east of Chicage, and
Amalgamated offered to move 400,000 bags at Government direction and expense.
"It is hard to understand way you did not offer to ship A barger quantity
if your inventory of 1,332,000 bags WAB 80 expessive R$ you indicated to your
growers, "Mr. Henderson said. "Your letter suggests that your concern may have been
over a reduction in the net return for the sugar, but any such reduction should be
more than offset by the increased price of 1941 sugar óver the crops of previous
years."
The company's an eal to the sugar growers to urge their senators and
congressmen to protest restrictions on use of sugar for home canning, Mr. Henderson
said, WAS made despite the fact that there is no restriction, under rationing, on
the amount of canning that may be done in the home. Rationing boards, he said, are
instructed to provide sugar in the ratio of one pound for ench four quarts of canned
goods in any reasonable quantity which the housewife may desire to prepare. Like-
vise, he said, there is no restriction on the amount of sugar which may be used for
commercial canning, the only requirement being that the pack shall be in syrup 10
percent lighter than in the preceding year. This, he said, 1s in keeping with FL
fundamental policy in sugar rationing. that farm and dairy products shall be
conserved
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July 3, 1942
154
Mr. E. À. Benning
Vice President & General Manager
The Amalagated Sugar Company
First Security Bank Building
Ogden, Utah
Dear Mr. Benning:
I have just come into possession of a copy of a circular letter dated
June 9 sent by your company to beet sugar growers in the Twin Falls, Idaho
area which contains grossly erronsous and mislbading statements regaBding
the sugar situation.
Your letter, I understand, WAS sent to the beet growers AB an explanation
of your company's failure to make its usual supplemental payment to sugar beet
growers at this time,
In the belief that the beet sugar growers who received your letter should
be given the full facts on the sugar siturtion, I address this letter to you
with the request that you send a copy of it to all beet growers to whom you sent
the original circular letter. I an also meking this letter public et my office.
The outstanding errors in your circular, and the facts of each case are:
1.
You state the sugar salos of your company during the period from
October 1, 1941 to May 31, 1942 were only 42 percent of the total
you had on hand October 1 and subsequently produced from the 1941
crop; also that your sales during the same period of the previous
year were 68 percent higher than this year's, the implication being
that the sugar rationing program was to blame.
The fact is that beet sugar deliveries generally declined only
16 percent in the period in which your own company' B decline
was 42 percent, indicating that the selling: policy of your
company, or some cause other than reduction of deliveries under
the rationing program, was responsible for your low deliveries
during this period.
2.
Your statement that "the rationing program has almost entirely
halted sugar buying by dealers and manufacturers," 1s unwarranted
by the facts. Buying dropped sharply at the outset of retioning,
but recovered stendily AB manufacturers and dealers disposed of
their excess stocks on hand. Deliveries during the week in which
your circular letter WAB mailed increased more than 30 percent
over the previous week, and the recovery has progressed steadily
since.
3.
You told your beet growers that "unless sugar rations are increased,
it will be necessary to market A large part of the inventory in
areas where the not return will he substantially lower, and this,
of course, will be reflected in the growers' final return from the
corp." The fact 18 that on the very day you sent your circular
letter to the growers, the OPA offered, in A telegram to all
western sugar beer companies, to Assist them in marketing their
(Over)
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Mr. H. A. Benning - 3
July 3, 1942
155
Kr. H. A+ Benning - 2
in the letter to your Growers, nor does It justify your discomination of inspourate
in territories they do not normally deficit sorve the paying the
Information of a nature which destroys confidence in the retioning program, without
sugar transportation costs to the Bastorn creas DEL
first wis consulted she Medicy of your government which 10 charged with the
extra titles not alrMady arranged for Ve naked you to and specify have NO
responsibility of administering shie program. Your netion, taken as it vas before
you desired to move under this arrangement, you offered It
vo could possibly have had adéquate information upon which to justify an increase
sugar nove 400,000 bage at government direction and expense. is hard
in the allowance, perely serves to emphasise the indication that you vere seeking
to understand: why you offered. such a smáll quantity If your invoice
a vig" out of A situation created largely by your own company's marketing policy.
to of 1,332,000 bags was as excessive as you indicated been to your
This office is making na honest endeavor to administer the sugar rationing program
tory Your letter suggests that you may have such concerned over
fairly and equitably and with the least possible hardship upon consumers and
grovers. reduction in the net return for the sugar, but entry reduction
primary distributore, end notions such AB yours only serve to pake/ow brek
a should be more than ffset by the increased price of 1941 sugar over
increasingly difficult.
the crops of previous years. Your published financial statements
indicate your company could well afford to Absorb the cost of angketing
Very truly yours.
when freight costs east of Chicago are absorbed by the government.
a granter than normal quantity of sugar east of Chicago particularly
It seens strange to no that n. company which has benefitted AB your
company has under government sugar logislation should take such
Leon Handerson
extra-ordinary steps to instituto a propaganda compaign at the first
Administrator
indication that some encrifice may be required of the company in order
to meet war requirements and protect the welfare of consumers.
H Rowe/bao
4.
You told the grovers that "there 10 no Justification for the drastic
rations that are being imposed upon sugar consumers.' You quote
"roliable sugar experts and statisticinns" as maintaining that
there 10 no existing sugar shortage that warrants the present con-
THE AMALAGAMATED SUGAR COMPANY
sumption restrictions. These exports should be named, and the basis
of their conclusions nade known, if they are to be given any weight.
TWIN FALLS, IDAHO
Truth is that stocks of sugar on hand in this country are one-third
(
below normal, but that's not the most important factor. The real
question is whether we have sufficient shipping facilities evail-
June 9, 1942
able to bring in adoquate sugar supplies from the off-shore productor
arons in the future. You can't ignore the subs@rine meance. Our
Mr. Best grower:
nerchant shipping has been hit and hit hard. Anyone who rends the
papers knows this, and unless ve can see fair prospects of getting
Your beet contract provides for additional payments on the 1941 crop on
the ration allowance except to An extent which 10 justified by supplisi
in adequate sugar supplies, it would be dangerous public to increase
March 15, 1942, and June 15, 1942, in such amounts as the company may deem to be
justified considering anticipated returns from the sale of sugar, the sugar con-
already received and on hand.
tent of beets, and the quantity of sugar sold,
5,
Your appeal to your growers to urgo their senators and corgresses
There is stated below in each of the company districte the sugar content of
to protest the present ration of eight ounces per week per person así
beets, the amount of the initial payment for these beets, and the amount of the
what you term "the restriction on the use of sugar for home canning."
additional payment nade on February 5, 1942.
seems to ne to be an unfortunate one. There has been no serious
Bugar
Initial
Additional
objection from the public on the amount of sugar allotted the individ-
Content
Payment
Payment
unl, and there is no restriction at all that would prevent home - ratil
We have instructed local rationing boarde to provide sugar in the
Ogden District
16.02
4.85
.70
of one pound for each four quarts of canned goods for any reasonable
Lewiston District
15.95
4.80
.70
quantity which the housewife may desire to prepare. Likewise, there
Idaho District
17.00
5.15
.78
restriction on the volume of commercial canning. We have simply
Nysen District
16.52
5.00
.73
no required that the commercial canners neo 8 syrup 10 percent lighter
in the preceding year.
The net return from sugar sales during the first eight months of the crop year
is $4,12 per bag, and on this basis under ordinary conditions the company would
I point out in conclusion that OPA has consistently stated that rationing
feel Justified in making MA additional payment at this tâme, but for reasons
allowances will be increased whenever we can be assured of n. sufficient supply
stated below, it in folt that conditions do not justify that A payment be made.
to justify such increase. We are currently announcing euch an increase follow
ing n very careful re-expringtion of the situation in the light of our first got
There vero 310,610 base of sugar on hand October 1, 1941, and 2,133,336 brugs
experience under the rationing program. However, this notion doos
ware produced from the 1941 boot crop, midne A total of 2,343,946 baca, Sugar
months justify in any vary the extrament statements concerning sugar supplies contains
sales during the eight months' period, October let My 31eb, were 1,011,946 bruce,
or only 42 percent of total, with only, (Over) four, months remaining to sell the balance
Mr. Beetgrower: 2
of the sugar on hand. Last year's sales for the same period were 1,698,949 bags,
or 68 per cent more than this year's sales.
)
The rationing program has almost entirely halted sugar buying by dealers and
manufacturers. Unless sugar rations are increased, it will be necessary to market
R. large part of the present inventory in areas where the net return will be
substantially lower, and this, of course, will be reflected in the grower's final
return from the crop.
There is no justification for the drastic rations that are being imposed
upon sugar consumers. Reliable sugar experts and statisticians maintgin that there
is no existing sugar shortage that warrants the present consumption restrictions.
We wish to suggest that you urge your association and your congressmen and senators
to protest the present ration of eight ounces per week per person and the restrict
ion upon the use of sugar for home canning. The ration should be not less than
one pound per week And there should be no restriction upon the use of sugar for
home canning.
Yours very truly
THE AMALGAMATED SUGAR COMPANY
Whe156
BOARD OF ECONOMIC WARFARE
WASHINGTON, D. C.
Office of the Executive Director
JUL 6' 1942
The Honorable
The Secretary of the Treasury
Dear Mr. Secretary:
After consultation with the interested agencies,
it was decided that additional time was need for prepa-
ration of the report on trade of neutral countries, and
therefore, the meeting of the Board of Economic Warfare,
which was scheduled for July 9, is being postponed until
July 16.
nile Sincerely Parkins yours,
Executive Director
VID3691T
Sher : JUL
to
downses VisienoM
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3
Treasury Department
Division of Monetary Research57
7/6/42
Date
19
To:
Mr. White
From:
L.S.
Farm.
Miss Chauncey returned with message:
"The Secretary said Mr. White should
get an appointment and talk to him
about them."
3 3
Dr,
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
158
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE July 6, 1942.
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM
H. D. White
Subject: Dollar Relief on British Contracts
Your commitment to provide $300-400 million of re-
lief to the British Treasury on their dollar contracts
in the United States has now been amply met. Total
relief in the form of cash refunds and relief from commit-
ments that has to data been provided or specifically
agreed to be provided totals $370 million.
Accordingly, there are attached two drafts of letters
to Sir Kingsley Wood. Each of these drafts lists the
facilities and contracts taken over. Draft No. 1 refers
to the Treasury's efforts to provide dollar relief and
states that these takeovers represent fulfillment of your
commitment to the British. Draft No. 2 reports the facts
without mentioning the Treasury's efforts or your commit-
ment.
I prefer Draft No. 2 as I am a little bit troubled
about the desirability of stating so clearly your efforts
in a letter to the Chancellor because of the record.
Draft No. 2 is less specific as to the Treasury role.
Possibly it might be sufficient to tell Mr. Bewley orally
that the commitment has been met and give him a list of
the items taken over.
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TREASURY department
158
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE July 6, 1942.
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM
H. D. White
Subject: Dollar Relief on British Contracts
Your commitment to provide $300-400 million of re-
lief to the British Treasury on their dollar contracts
in the United States has now been amply met. Total
relief in the form of cash refunds and relief from commit-
ments that has to data been provided or specifically
agreed to be provided totals $370 million.
Accordingly, there are attached two drafts of letters
to Sir Kingsley Wood. Each of these drafts lists the
facilities and contracts taken over. Draft No. 1 refers
to the Treasury's efforts to provide dollar relief and
states that these takeovers represent fulfillment of your
commitment to the British. Draft No. 2 reports the facts
without mentioning the Treasury's efforts or your commit-
ment.
I prefer Draft No. 2 as I am a little bit troubled
about the desirability of stating so clearly your efforts
in a letter to the Chancellor because of the record.
Draft No. 2 is less specific as to the Treasury role.
Possibly it might be sufficient to tell Mr. Bewley orally
that the commitment has been met and give him a list of
the items taken over.
Attachments
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159
OFFICE
OF
Deaft #1 /
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
THE
SECRETARY
Excellency:
During the past year the United States Treasury has endeavored to
find a means of strengthening the dollar position of the British
Treasury in order that the British Treasury might be able to build up
a gold and dollar balance sufficient for advance planning and efficient
prosecution of the war.
The United States Army has been asked to take over certain supply
contracts made in this country by the British Purchasing Missions, and
to make cash payments for certain war materials from those contracts
diverted to the uses of the United States, and the Army, the Maritime
Commission, and the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, though its
subsidiary the Defense Plant Corporation, have been asked to purchase
various war material plants built in this country by the Missions.
This program has recently succeeded in providing, or obtaining
agreements to provide, a substantial volume of dollar relief. I should
like, therefore, to review briefly the accomplishments of the entire
program.
Cash refunds or relief
from commitments
(In millions)
Transfers of facilities
1. Tennessee Powder Company
$21
2. Machine gun plants
24
Buffalo Arms Company
Colts Patent Firearms Company
High Standard Manufacturing Co.
Kelsey-Hayes Wheel Company
3. Todd shipbuilding facilities
12
Todd-California Shipbuilding Corp.
Todd-Bath Iron Shipbuilding Corp.
4. Other facilities for which purchase
agreements are being negotiated:
45
New Jersey Powder Company
Packard Motor Car Company
Curtiss-Wright Corporation
General Motors Corporation
Pullman Standard Car Mfg. Co.
Pressed Steel Car Company
OPVICTORY
Lima Locomotive Company
BUY
Republic Steel Corporation
UNITED
STATES
Western Cartridge Company
WAR
Remington Arms Company
$102
BONDS
ARE
STAMPS
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160
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Cash refunds or relief
from commitments
(In millions)
Transfers of contracts
1. Machine guns
$28
Buffalo Arms Company
Colts Patent Firearms Company
High Standard Manufacturing Co.
Kelsey-Hayes Wheel Company
2. Tennessee Powder Company
6
The terms of this transfer called
for cash refunds of $6 million and
relief from commitments of $29
million. However, the Treasury
understands that the British
contract for the product of this
plant was not a firm commitment,
and we have not, therefore, included
the $29 million as dollar relief,
even though the British Treasury has
been relieved of payments of that
amount.
3. Vultee Airplanes
12
4. Remington Arms Company
33
5. Savage Arms Company
25
6. Mack Trucks, Incorporated
4
7. Pressed Steel Car Company
6
The preliminary contract for this
transfer calls for payments not
to exceed $9 million. It is ex-
pected that the total payment will
be about $6 million.
8. Ordnance contracts
84
Under the terms of this transfer
the War Department has agreed to
the take-over of some 44 British
contracts for ammunition, explo-
sives, and tanks, aggregating
$84 million.
$198
Payment for materials diverted from British
contracts for the uses of the United States
1. Aircraft items
$ 70
An additional payment on these
items is expected when the values
of the materials diverted are
70
finally determined.
Grand Total
$370
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I am glad that I have been able, with the cooperation of other
government agencies, to obtain $300-$400 million of relief for the
British Treasury, thus bringing this complicated chapter of our joint
effort to a successful close.
Very sincerely yours,
Secretary of the Treasury
His Excellency,
The Chancellor of the Exchequer,
London, England.
OFFICE
O
TREASURY department
diff
WASHINGTON
THE
SECRETARY
Excellency:
During the past year this Government, as you know, has taken many
steps to assist the British Treasury in building up a gold and dollar
balance and in maintaining that balance at a level deemed necessary for
the efficient prosecution of the war. The completion of several recent
arrangements between the Army and the British Supply Council in North
America makes this an appropriate time to review the accomplishments of
this program.
The total of United States Government purchases of British armament
facilities, contracts, and products now amounts to about $370 million
as follows:
Cash refunds or relief
from commitments
(In millions)
Transfers of facilities
1. Tennessee Powder Company
$21
2. Machine gun plants
24
Buffalo Arms Company
Colts Patent Firearms Company
High Standard Manufacturing Co.
Kelsey-Hayes Wheel Company
3. Todd shipbuilding facilities
12
Todd-California Shipbuilding Corp.
Todd-Bath Iron Shipbuilding Corp.
4. Other facilities for which purchase
agreements are being negotiated:
45
New Jersey Powder Company
Packard Motor Car Company
Curtiss-Wright Corporation
General Motors Corporation
Pullman Standard Car Mfg. Co.
Pressed Steel Car Company
Lima Locomotive Company
Republic Steel Corporation
Western Cartridge Company
Remington Arms Company
$102
FORVICTORY
BUY
UNITED
STATES
WAR
BONDS
AND
STAMPS
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Cash refunds or relief
from commitments
(In millions)
Transfers of contracts
1. Machine guns
$28
Buffalo Arms Company
Colts Patent Firearms Company
High Standard Manufacturing Co.
Kelsey-Hayes Wheel Company
2. Tennessee Powder Company
6
The terms of this transfer called
for cash refunds of $6 million and
relief from commitments of $29
million. However, the Treasury
understands that the British
contract for the product of this
plant was not a firm commitment,
and we have not, therefore, included
the $29 million.
3. Vultee Airplanes
12
4. Remington Arms Company
33
5. Savage Arms Company
25
6. Mack Trucks, Incorporated
4
7. Pressed Steel Car Company
6
The preliminary contract for this
transfer calls for payments not to
exceed $9 million. It is expected
that the total payment will be
about $6 million.
8. Ordnance contracts
84
Under the terms of this transfer
the War Department has agreed to
the take-over of some 44 British
contracts for ammunition, explo-
sives, and tanks, aggregating
$84 million.
$198
-
Payment for materials diverted from British
contracts for the uses of the United States
1. Aircraft items
$ 70
An additional payment on these
items is expected when the values
of the materials diverted are
finally determined.
70
I
Grand Total
$370
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The cooperation of the War Department, the Maritime Commission,
the Lend-Lease Administration, and the Defense Plant Corporation has
made possible the completion of this program.
Very sincerely yours,
Secretary of the Treasury
His Excellency,
The Chancellor of the Exchequer,
London, England.
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THE BRITISH SUPPLY COUNCIL IN NORTH AMERICA
2
Box 680
TELEPHONE: REPUBLIC 7860
BENJAMIN FRANKLIN STATION
WASHINGTON, D. c.
6th July, 1942
SECRET AND CONFIDENTIAL
My dear White,
I sent Mr. Hicks our gold and
dollar figures up to and including the 19th June.
The figures for June 26th and 30th are as follows:
1942
June 26
June 30
Total Gold (Including Belgian)
734
738
Official Dollar Balance
144
140
Total Gold and Dollars
878
878
Less: Belgian Gold
105
105
Scattered Gold
101
139
Gold reserve against
immediate liabilities
10
10
Available Gold and Dollars
662
624
Yours
Dr. H. D. White,
Director of Monetary Research,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D.C.
ster a JUL
to goistvi(I
dosessed
166
TREASURY department
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE
July 6,1942
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
Mr. Kamarck
FROM
Subject: Shipment of Planes to British Forces
1. In the week ending June 30, 1942, a total of 173
planes of all types (137 combat planes) were shipped
to British forces.
2. In the first six months of 1942, somewhat over
3,000 planes of all types (2,600 combat planes) were
shipped to the British. This represents an average
of 117 planes of all types (99 combat planes) a week.
Compared to 1941, the rate of shipment in 1942 of
planes of all types has increased by 17 percent, but
of combat planes by 40 percent.
3. More than half of all the combat planes went to
the British Isles. One-quarter of the total were
destined for the Middle East. The Pacific forces
received 8. little more than 10 percent of the total.
The detailed figures follow:
Percent of Total
Area
Combat Planes Received
United Kingdom
56 percent
Middle East
25
#
Pacific
13
n
Canada
04
India
02
Total
100
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Table A - Shipments by Area
167
Week
Total Shipped
Ending
Total Shipped
in 1942
since
June 30,1942
to date
Jan. 1, 1941
to the United Kingdom
Light and medium bombers
29
450
1,611
Heavy bombers
10
94
198
Naval patrol bombers
0
8
110
Pursuit
33
808
1,119
Army Cooperation
O
R
71
102
Trainers
0
o
24
Total to the United Kingdom
72
1,431
3,164
to the Middle East
Light and medium bombers
53
286
616
Heavy bombers
0
0
5
Pursuit
12
344
1,192
Army Cooperation
0
12
12
Trainers
0
8
150
Total to the Middle East
65
650
1,975
to the Canadian Forces
Light and medium bombers
0
44
212
Heavy bombers
0
1
1
Naval patrol bombers
0
23
31
Pursuit
0
30
72
Trainers
36
469
1,710
Total to Canadian Forces
36
567
2,026
0 the British Pacific Forces
Light and medium bombers
o
141
241
Naval patrol bombers
0
0
27
Pursuit
0
200
363
Trainers
O
0
105
Total to Pacific Forces
0
341
736
0 the British Indian Forces
Light and medium bombers
0
20
20
Pursuit
o
40
40
Total to Indian Forces
0
60
60
otals
Light and medium bombers
82
941
2,700
Heavy bombers
10
95
204
Naval patrol bombers
o
31
168
Pursuit
45
1,422
2,786
Army Cooperation
o
83
114
Trainers
36
477
1,989
Grand Total
173
3,049
7,961
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Table B - Shipments by Types
Week
Total Shipped
Total Shipped
Ending
in 1942
since
June 30,1942
to date
Jan. 1, 1941
Bell Airecobra
0
314
468
Boeing B-17
8
24
44
Boston III
1
14
38
Brewster Buffalo
0
0
168
Cessna Crane I-A (AT-17)
0
65
65
T-50
O
86
700
Consolidated Catalina
o
31
168
Liberator
2
71
160
Curtiss Kittyhawk
12
575
957
Tomahawk
0
0
544
Douglas Boston I,II and III
0
0
492
Fairchild 24 R-9
O
73
95
Glenn Martin B-26A (Marauder)
o
2
2
Baltimore
12
241
309
Maryland
0
0
150
Grumman Martlet II
1
47
88
Lockheed Hudson
16
389
1,359
Lightning
O
3
3
Venture I
0
12
12
Ventura Bomber
28
186
186
North American B-25
25
77
77
Harvard II
0
52
949
Mustang
32
478
558
Northrop Vengeance
0
5
5
Pitcairn Autogiro
0
O
5
Stearman PT-27
36
274
275
Vought-Sikorsky Chesapeake
o
O
50
Vultee-Stinson 0-49
o
10
14
Vultee Vengeance
o
20
20
Grand Total-All Types
173
3,049
7,961
Light and
Naval
Army
Week
medium
Heavy
patrol
Coopera-
Ended
bombers
bombers
bombers
Pursuit
tion
Trainers
Totals
Weekly average
of shipments
in 1941
36
2
3
23
1
30
100
January 6,1942
24
0
5
30
4
9
72
January 13,1942
3
O
2
58
0
42
105
January 20,1942
4
0
0
14
o
60
78
January 27,1942
24
0
1
100
5
13
143
February 3,1942
9
o
3
10
4
4
30
February 10,1942
20
0
3
59
o
4
86
February 17,1942
9
0
2
41
7
0
59
February 24,1942
24
0
2
86
7
1
120
March 3,1942
26
0
1
80
6
0
113
March 10,1942
25
2
O
78
1
o
106
March 17,1942
34
1
0
94
8
0
137
March 24,1942
94
9
12
79
0
84
278
March 31,1942
49
1
0
58
4
10
122
April 7,1942
69
2
o
OR
4
5
88
April 14,1942
55
7
o
86
6
29
183
April 21,1942
55
11
O
43
15
34
158
April 28,1942
35
10
o
39
0
26
110
May 5,1942
14
2
0
98
0
4
118
May 12,1942
10
3
O
75
12
6
118
May 19,1942
22
0
o
37
0
7
66
May 26,1942
23
8
0
34
o
38
103
June 2,1942
32
3
O
68
0
42
145
June 9,1942
69
OR
0
23
0
OR
108
June 16,1942
30
6
0
53
0
4
94
93
June 23,1942
9
o
21
0
11
June 30,1942
82
10
135
0
45
0
36
173
Total shipments since
January 1,1941 to
date
2,700
204
168
2,786
114
1,989
7,961
169
#
Total includes planes shipped in 1942 prior to March 17 which are not included in the weekly totals
up to that date.
Regraded Unclassified
170
Treasury Department
Division of Monetary Research
Date July 6. 1942
19
To:
Secretary Morgenthau
From: Mr. White
The present gold purchase agreement
with Russia was signed January 3, 1942.
It committed us to buy $21,070,000 of gold
against which we advanced $20,000,000.
Deliveries were to be made by July 2, 1942.
Deliveries thus far made have reduced
the advance still outstanding to $11,886,730.
This reduction was in the form of a delivery
of $6.7 million in gold on May 9, 1942 and
$1.4 million available from deliveries under
the previous agreement.
Mr. Gromyko has informed us that about
$3 million of gold is enroute to the United
States but that the balance of the deliveries
under the agreement can probably not be
completed until the end of October.
MR. WHITE
Branch 2058 - Room 2141
171
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
Washington
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE,
Press Service
Monday, July 6, 1942.
No. 32-32
The Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
end Minister Fernando Lobo, Charge d'Affaires of the United
States of Brazil in Washington, today signed an agreement
extending to July 15, 1947 the Stabilization Agreement
entered into five years ago.
Under this Agreement, as extended today, the United
States will make dollar exchange available to the Govern-
ment of the United States of Brazil for the purpose of
stabilizing the Brazilian milreis-United States dollar rate
of exchange up to a total amount of $100,000,000 and will
sell gold to the United States of Brazil at such times and
in such amounts as the Brazilian Government may request,
also to a total amount of $100,000,000. In the Agreement
as originally drafted these two amounts were $60,000,000.
"The extension of this Agreement between the Treasuries
of the United States of America and the United States of
Brazil and the increase in the facilities made available to
Brazil under the Agreement," said Secretary Morgenthau, "are
a further evidence of the close and friendly relations exist-
ing between the two countries and constitute an assurance of
continued cooperation between the two Treasuries.
"The friendship and understanding symbolized by this and
other agreements with our great sister republic in South
America promise much for both a joint attack on the problems
of the war and a solution for our common problems in the
peace."
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172
THEASURY DEPARTMENT
Washington
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE,
Press Service
Honday, July 6, 1942.
No. 32-33
The Secretary of the Treasury, Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
and the Cuban Ambassador, Dr. Aurelio F. Conchoso, today
signed an agreement under which the Government of the United
States undertakes to sell gold to the Government of the
Republic of Cuba from time to time with payment to be made
within 120 days after delivery of the gold provided that
the unpaid-for amount of gold shall not at any time exceed
$5,000,000.
The details of the Agreement were worked out between
the Cuban and United States Treasuries on the occasion of
a recent visit to this country by Dr. Oscar Gercia Montes,
the Minister of Finance of Cuba.
This Agreement, evidencing the close cooperation that
has existed between the Treasuries of the Republic of Cuba
and the United States, will enable the Cuban Treasury to
carry out operations designed to stabilize the Cuban peso-
United States dollar rate of exchange.
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173
o
ELP
Buenos Aires
P
This telegram must be
Y
paraphrased before being
Dated July 6, 1942.
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental
agency. (BR)
Rec'd 10:50 p.m.
Secretary of State,
Washington.
TRIPLE PRIORITY
1326, July 6, 8 p.m.
Department's 1281, June 30, 10, p.m.
The Embassy has just received Central Bank cir-
cular No. 295 dated July 3 which reads in translations
as follows:
"Owing to the measures of control over United
States dollar notes adopted May 19 last by the
Treasury Department of the United States, the Central
Bank has been empowered by decree No. 122,882 of
National Executive power and the corresponding
ministerial resolution (the texts of which are
attached) to take correlative measures of control over
the movement and negotiation of the said notes with
the object of protecting the legitimate interests of
those who engage in good faith in the pertinent operations.
As a first measure, the Central Bank recommends to
174
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the authorized institutions and exchange houses that
they suspend for the time being all operations in dollar
notes. In case there may be special urgency in
conducting an operation in this currency they must first
consult the Central Bank.
The importation of dollar notes has also been sub-
mitted to the control of the Central Bank under the
aforementioned decree and resolution. For this purpose
importers of that currency must declare it in the form
established for the importation of securities in our
circular No. 206 of July 15, 1940 and they must deposit
it in a bank or institution authorized to operate in
foreign exchange until the Central Bank grants the
pertinent import license.
Regarding the exportation of dollar notes their
control will be made through the intermediary of the
institutions authorized to operate in foreign exchange
which by the present circular are authorized (?) ex-
clusively in the operations of exporting currency to
the United States. For this purpose as soon as the
Treasury of that country establishes the requisites
necessary for obtaining the entry of the said
currency into the United States these will be commun-
icated to the aforementioned organizations in order
175
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that they inform the interested parties. The holders
of dollar notes who desire therefore to export them
to the aforementioned country should address the
aforementioned organizations for which purpose it is
now recommended that they present as soon as possible
a statement of the amount of those notes in their
control.
As to the exportation of dollar currency to other
countries this should be applied for to the Central
Bank through the aforementioned institutions".
In addition the government has announced one de-
cree No. 122,882 dated June 17, which extends to the
importation of all securities the control previously
exercised over the importation of Argentine securities
by decree No. 67,355 of July 13, 1940 and which gives
the Central Bank control over the internal market of
foreign securities; and a resolution dated June 18,
1942 which declares that "United States dollar notes
are subject to the control established by decrees
No. 67,355 and No. 122,882 dated July 13, 1940 and
June 17, 1942 respectively".
The reference to the Treasury in the fourth
paragraph of the circular covers the required inform-
ation as set forth in the Department's No. 909 of
Regraded Unclassified
176
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June 19, 7 p.m. and which the Embassy at the request of
the Central Bank agreed to communicated to the Foreign
Office after the local measures were adopted. It would
be appreciated if the Department would advise the
Embassy whether it may suggest to the Foreign Office
that the exporting banks (1) require the aforementioned
information in a sworn declaration to the authorized
Argentine institutions copies to be sent to the Embassy
and the consignee bank in the United States and (2)
advise their clients to designate a consignee bank
which would submit applications on their behalf to
the Treasury Department and (3) or whether they should
advise their clients to execute the regular Treasury
application forms modified so as to call for the
currency information required by the Treasury.
Please indicate any preferable alternatives.
The Central Bank states after looking into the
matter that the institutions authorized to operate in
foreign exchange which in turn are authorized to ex-
port the dollar currency number thirty three but that
the two German banks and probably various other in-
stitutions which are included would not in practice
engage in these transactions. Gagneux may have re-
ferred to the institutions which he thought would as
a matter of practice engage in the operations.
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It is proposed to state plainly to Prebisch
tomorrow that these measures fall short of his
assurances because they fail to prohibit unwanted (1)
all dealings in United States currency and (2) export
to all countries except the United States; and to in-
form him that the large number of authorized institutions
is a disappointment.
ARMOUR
NK
Copy:lc:vw:eh
7-7-42
Regraded Unclassified
178
MJF
La Paz
This telegram must bE
paraphrased before being
Dated July s, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental Rec'd 10:06 p.m.
agency. (BR)
Secretary of State,
Washington.
507, July 6, 5 p.m.
Department's circular telegram June 23, 11 Delle and
Embassy's telegram no. 469, June 24, 6 p.m.
Decree issued by Bolivian GovernmentJune 29, made
public July 4, provides control over United States currency
in accordance with Department's suggestions; presume
Banco Central will Joon begin under the terms of decree
accepting currency for transmittal to the United States.
In the meantime, there is no market, official or free,
for dollar currency and consequently no exchange rate. lio
large blocks known to be seeking markets. Text of decree
follows by air mail.
DOAL
HK
Regraded Unclassified
179
HEL
PLAIN
Buenos Aires
Dated July 6, 1942
REc'd 6:50 peme
SECRETARY of State,
Washington.
1323, sixth
FOR TREASURY
240 offered no bid pending clarification new
cEntral bank restrictions on trading in dollar notes.
CHARGE TREASURY.
ARMOUR
CSB
Regraded Unclassified
180
FIIH
Chungking, via H. R.
This telegram must bE
paraphrased before being.
Dated July 6, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental
Rec'd 1:48 p.m., 7 th
agency. (BR)
Secretary of State,
Washington.
796, July 6, 1 p.m.
Following from Dr. Hung for the Secretary of
the Treasury refers to Department's no. 576, July
1, 7 p.m.
"Your telegram dated July 1, 1942, Washington,
is just received through the courtesy of Ambassador
Causs.
I much appreciate and agree with your suggestion
that in view of the passing of Mr. Fox and the
Japanese detention of Mr. William Taylor the American
alternate in Hong Kong an acting clternate bE appointed
to perform the duties and obligations of the Anerican
member of the Stabilization Board.
I am equally gratified that you recommend Mr. S.
Adler who during the late Hr. Fox's visit to the
United States had proved his ability as acting
American member in cooperating with other members
of the board.
I am therefort, happy to appoint Mr. S. Adler
as the acting
Regraded Unclassified
181
-2- 796, July 6, 1 p.m. from Chungking, via N. R.
as the acting American alternate member of the
Stabilization Board.
I trust this will find you in the best of health.' 11
GAUSS
WSB
Regraded Unclassified
182
ISL
Chunglting
This telegram must bE
paraphrased before being
Dated July 6, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental
Rec'd 1:35 p.m.
agency. (DR)
Secretary of State,
Washington.
797, July 6, 2 p.m., (SECTION ONE)
FOR THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY FROM ADLER.
"Ty 48.
Weekly sconomic
One. Chungling wholesale pricts May: general
4,790, food 3,220 (Institute of War Time Economics,
January-June,1937 equals 100) or increases of nearly
10 and 5% respectively in April. Highest increase for
the month was in clothing which jumped over 25,5. Pre-
liminary reports indicate that rise in pricts in June
more moderate than in May particularly in CASE of
food.
Two. 1,000,000,000 Chinase currency of allied
victory bond of 1942 flocted July 1 paying 6,1,5 per
annum and redemable in national currency in ten years
beginning 1945. Issue will bE sold by compulsory al-
lotment and guaranteed from British starling 50,000,000
loan; Cassels informs me that in negotiations for
British
Regraded Unclassified
183
-2-, 797, July 6, 2 p.m., (SECTION ONE) from Chungking.
British loan allocation of only sterling 10,000,000
against internal bond issues is contemplated.
Three. Consolidated tax on cotton yarn and
wheat flour will henceforth bE collected in kind to
facilitate work of -commodity administration. Rate
of tax will be one kilogram per 27.5 kilograms of
cotton yarn and one sack of wheat flour per 40 sacks.
This is yet manifestation of tendency toward barter
economy.
GAUSS
BB
Regraded Unclassified
184
/.HC
Chungking
This telegram must bE
paraphrased before being
Dated July 6, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental
Rec'd 11:58 n.m.
agency. (BR)
Secretary of State,
Washington.
797, July 6, 2 p.m. (SECTION TWO)
Reorganization of four Government banks out-
lined in Section One of TF 44 of June 6 went into
Effect July 1. With centralization of note issue
in the hands of Central Bank other three Govern-
ment banks are to turn over to Central Bank their
reserves against notes previously issued consis-
ting of 60% cash and 40% securities Et cetera and
will receive interest on the latter for three
years. Central Bank will rediscount for the
three banks at rate of 2 to 4% lower than they
charge customers. Government is increasing its
capital in the three banks to 60 million Chinese
currency in each. They are required to report
their fortign Exchange assets to Central Bank.
Still doubtful how contemplated division of
labor between Government banks will work out in
practice. Press reception of banking reform favor-
able on whole emphasizing increased importance of
the Central
Regraded Unclassified
185
-2- #797, July 6, 2 p.m. (SECTION TWO), from Chungking
the Central Bank as "bankers bank". Some news-
papars question value of retaining joint head
office of four government banks in new SET up."
GAUSS
BB
186
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED
FROM: American Embasay, Chungking, China
DATE: July 6, 1942, 3 P.M.
NO.1 798
This telegram, 2547, is from Mr. Adler and contains
a message for the Secretary of the Treasury.
On July 1 the Chairman of the Board received a
written communication from Dr. Kung along the following
lines:
1. The contents of the memorandum submitted an
April 16 to him by the Beard conserning the proposed
reduction in the exchange rate to five cents in United
States currency have been duly noted by him. (A summary
of this measrandum was given in paragraph one of telegram
no. TF28, dated April 18.)
2. He makes the suggestion that as of July 10 the
official rate of exchange be made five cents in United
States currency.
A meeting of the Board has been called for July & by
the Chairman at which time presumably favorable action on
this suggestion will be taken. The Chairman has asked me
to netify you that the fast that the Treasury did not object
in April to the propesed reduction has tempered his regret
that the Beard has to ast on the exchange rate without an
American representative,
GAUSS
Regraded Unclassified
187
July 6, 1942.
Mr. Livesey
Mr. White
Will you please send the following cable to London:
"Reference your incoming 3703, July 3. Under the Trading With
The Enemy Act no American-owned enterprise, whether in United States
or abroad, can participate in any undertaking involving trading with
the enemy except under Treasury license. Even where trading with the
enemy may not be involved a Treasury license under Executive Order
8389 as amended would still be required for transactions or dealings
involving blocked countries or their nationals. Treasury would not
license the transaction in question."
FAS:EMB:dm:7/6/42
Regraded Unclassified
188
TELEGRAM SENT
MLR
July 6, 1942.
This telegram must bE
paraphrased before being
2 p.m.
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental
agency. (BR)
AMENDASSY,
LONDON.
RUSH
3082
FROM TREASURY.
Your 3703, July 3.
Under the Trading With the Enemy Act no American-
owned Enterprist, whether in United States or abroad,
can participate in any undertaking involving trading
with the Enemy EXCEPT under Treasury license. Even
where trading with the Enemy may not bE involved a
Treasury license under Executive Order 8389 as amended
would still bE required for transactions or dealings
involving blocked countries or their nationals.
Treasury would not license the transaction in question.
HULL
(FL)
FD:FL:BM
Regraded Unclassified
189
C
0
P
Y
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON
In reply refer to
July 6, 1942
FD 102.1/6683
The Secretary of State presents his compliments to
the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses
copies of telegram no. 27, dated July 3. 1942, from the
American Consulate, Belfast, Ireland, as corrected,
concerning the aggregate Treasury checks received from
the Northern Bank which totaled $892.91.
Enclosure:
From Consulate, Belfast,
no. 27, July 3. 1942.
Copy:ime:7/6/42
Regraded Unclassified
190
C
0
P
Y
CORRECTED COPY
BAS
Belfast
This telegram must be
paraphrased before being
Dated July 3, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental
Rec'd 1:55 p.m.
agency. (BR)
Secretary of State,
Washington.
27, July 3, 4 p.m.
Department's telegram no. 11.
Please inform Treasury checks aggregating 892
dollars 91 sents received today from northern bank.
BUHRMAN
CSB
Copy:ime:7/6/42
Regraded Unclassified
191
RCC
Tangier
This telegram must bE
pàraphrasad before being
Dated July 6, 1942
communicated to anythed
other than a Governmental
Rec'd 9:35 a.m.
agency. (BK)
Secretary of State
Washington
301, July 6, 11 a.m.
Department's circular June 23, 11 P. m. A 14.7
pesetas 02 82.5 Moroccan francs, B under 5000, C no
large blocks at present.
CHILDS
I.DS
Regraded Unclassified
192
FMH
Lima
This telagram must bE
paraphrased before being
Dated July 6, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental Rec'd 6:57 p.m.
agency. (BR)
Secretary of State,
Washington.
712, July 6, 1 p.m.
REference Department's circular telegram dated
June 23, 11 p.m.
Dollar bills collected from June 28 to July 4
inclusive for forwarding to Federal RESERVE Bank
amounted to $12,180. Nothing from Japanese or
Germans but several small amounts from Italians.
Other details are C.S praviously reported.
Chargeable to Treasury Department.
PATTERS ON
LMS
Regraded Unclassified
C
193
0
P
Y
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON
July 6, 1942
In reply refer to
FD 851.515/162
The Secretary of State presents his compliments to
the Honorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses
copies of a paraphrase of telegram no. 2988, dated June
27, 1942, from the American Legation, Bern, Switzerland,
relating to French transactions with Portugal.
Enclosure:
From Legation, Bern,
no. 2988, June 27, 1942.
Regraded Unclassified
194
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED
FROM: American Legation, Bern, Switzerland
DATE: June 27, 1942, 2 p.m.
NO. : 2988
Reference is made to the final paraphrase of telegram
no. 2622, dated June 10, sent by the Embassy.
The same source which reported the information in
the paragraph under reference now reports that Portugal
has agreed to buy 3000 kilos of gold if and when
Portuguese export permits for goods can be obtained
by the French.
HARRISON
Copy:bj:7-6-42
Regraded Unclassified
C
195
0
P
Y
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
Washington
In reply refer to
Eu 862.51/5046
July 6, 1942
The Secretary of State presents his compli-
ments to the Honorable the Secretary of the
Treasury and encloses a copy of a telegram from
the American Legation at Bern giving information
with regard to a recent German decree law.
Enclosure:
From Legation at Bern,
June 26, 1942.
Copy: VV: 7-8-42
Regraded Unclassified
(COPIED: Eu: ARM)
196
(COMPARED:MEL)
TELEGRAM RECEIVED
IM
PLAIN
From BERN
Dated June 26, 1942
Rec'd 10:53 a.m.
Secretary of State,
Washington.
2959, twenty-sixth.
Your 1639, June 25.
Following obligatory registration by holders all securities in
excess 100,000 marks value purchased since outbreak war decree dated
June ninth empowers Reichsbank to purchase at quotation of December
31, 1941 all or part securities 80 registered with payment in treasury
bonds to be administered fiduciarily by Reichsbank and saleable only
for good reason and with prior consent bank. Securities declared and
registered are consequently blocked. Estimated value securities in-
volved 1,000,000,000 marks. Feared that 100,000 mark exemption can
be reduced at any time. Development gives Reichsbank possibility to
control market by breaking up large blocks and selling to small
holders. Quotation December 1941 approximately 20% to 30% above
market June ninth. Effect on Berlin exchange has been disappearance
of larger traders. Popular stocks such as I.G. Farben not quoted.
Business stock exchange virtually ceasing and its functions may degene-
rate into a device to permit government manipulate market. This mea-
sure appears to complete German legislation designed to eliminate
speculation in securities and competition by exchange for money de-
sired by government to finance war expenditures. The process apparently.
emulates Italian control measures previously devised and executed.
HARRISON
NPL
Copy:vw: 7-8-42
Regraded Unclassified
197
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED
FROM: American Legation, Bern, Switzerland
DATE: July 6, 1942, 6 p.m.
NO.: 3155
This message is strictly confidential.
The buying rate for Turkish pound bank notes has
risen in Basel from 1.25 to 1.70 Swiss france since
the fall of Tobruk, June 21 to July 4. This rise is
believed to be caused by an increase in the demand by
Germany for Turkish currency possibly for activities
of a subversive nature in Turkey. The foregoing derives
from a report to the Consul at Basel from the American
Express Company.
This telegram was repeated to the American Embassy,
Ankara, Turkey.
HARRISON
Regraded Unclassified
198
HEL
Montevideo
This telegram must bE
paraphrased before being
Dated July 6, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental
REc'd 6:23 parle
agency. (BR)
SECRETARY of State,
Washington.
560, July 6, 6 p.m.
Referring to my telegram number 544, June 30,
7 pame
Deposits with the Bank of the Republic for
remittance to the United States total $125,000.
Dollars declared but not deposited total $81,000.
An airmail report will bE submitted this week with
comment on large blocks since all operations in United
States currency are confined to the Bank of the
Republic. Reliable information on clandestine trans-
actions is not available. It is understood, however,
that the discount on United States currency is now
approximately 16%.
DAWSON
LMS
Regraded Unclassified
199
RF
Caracas
This telegram must be
paraphrased before being
Dated July 6, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than a Governmental
Rec'd 11:25
agency. (BR)
Department of State
Washington
530, July 6, 7 p.m.
Department's circular June 19, 10 p.m.
Executive decree 152 of July 3. published July
4, incorporates all points outlined in telegram re-
ferred to except does not require delivered of all
United States currency in the country to the Central
Bank, but provides handling by the Central Bank in
the manner suggested by owners who wish to convert
it.
CORRIGAN
MCR
eh:copy
7-8-42
Regraded Unclassified
200
JG
Caracas
This telegram must bE
paraphrased before being
Dated July 6, 1942
communicated to anyone
other than C. Governmental.
REc'd 11:11 p.m.
agency. (BR)
Secretary of State,
Washington.
531, July 6, 8 p.m.
Department's circular telegram June 23, 11 p.m.
(A) No rates quoted. Isolated sales in small
amounts made at 335. (B) Superintendent of banks
states total transaction for country reported to him
less than $1,000. (c) No new information obtained.
CORRIGAN
KLP
Regraded Unclassified
201
COPY NO. 13
BRITISH MOST SECRET
U.S. SECRET
OPTEL No. 230
Information received up to 7 A.M., 6th July, 1942.
1. NAVAL
Up to midnight 4th it is known that three ships in the outward Runsian
convoy had been sunk and another damaged by aircraft and U-boat attacks. During
afternoon of 5th after the convoy had scattered, renewed attacks by aircraft and U-
boats caused further damage, but there is no definite report of sinkings further
air attacks developed this morning. An enemy force of two battleships and eight
destroyers was reported forty miles northwest of NORTH CAPE at 1700/5 steering north-
east. This force was last sighted at 2030. A claim of the Russian submarine K 21
to two hits on TIRPITZ is as yet unconfirmed. On the evening of the 5th three ships
of the homeward convoy from RUSSIA struck mines off Northwest ICELAND.
2. MILITARY
EGYPT. 4th. Operations continued without any major changes. An ar-
moured engagement south of zu ALAMEIN ended in our favour and the enemy made a local
withdrawal. During this fighting 600 Germans surrendered to the United Kingdom
First Armoured Division and it is claimed that 18 tanks were destroyed. Early on thi
5th the 5th New Zealand Brigade attacked and captured an enemy strong point ten miles
south west of EL ALAMEIN. Enemy casualties were considerable. New Zealand casualties
were very few. Fighting continues.
3. AIR OPERATIONS
WESTERN FRONT. 5th/6th. 14 aircraft were sent seu mining and 5 on
interior operations. One Heinkel bomber WELD probably destroyed.
EGYPT. 4th. Our night bombers and fighters operated at maximum
strength. Considerable damage was inflicted on onemy forces west of EL ALAMEIN which
contributed to the enemy withdrawal in this sector. 2 dive bombing attacks and 3
enemy sweeps were intercepted. Fighter bombers attacked enemy concentrations and
aircraft on landing grounds in the EL DABA area and Beaufighters destroyed or damagnó
50 vehicles including troop carriers between TOBRUK and SIDI BARRANI. 9 enomy air-
craft were destroyed, 10 probably destroyed, and 6 damaged. 6 of our fightors are
missing.
4th/5th. 84 Wellingtons effectively attacked enemy concentrations be-
tween EL ALAMEIN and EL DABA. Liberators bombed BENGHAZI and claimed hits on one or
two ships. About 35 enemy aircraft operated against the AMIRIYA-ALEXANDRIA and
SUEZ CANAL areas and mines are believed to have been laid in the canal. Night
fighters shot down five enemy aircraft.
Regraded Unclassified
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5th. Our attacks on M.T. and grounded aircraft in the EL DABA area
continued. 5 enemy aircraft were shot down, 2 probably destroyed and 2 damaged.
MALTA. TAGLI aerodrome was bombed and one Beaufighter and one Spit--
fire destroyed on the ground. 5 enemy aircraft were damaged by our fighters.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
M
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE July 6,1942
Secretary Morgenthau
TO
Mr. Kamarck
FROM
Subject: Summary of Military Reports
Mediterranean
The number of German bombers in Sicily has been
increased to 130 by the arrival of 45 Junkers 88 (level
and dive bombers). A further increase of another twenty
may occur in the next week. These bombers were trans-
ferred from Western Europe. (This movement represents
a reversal of the transfer of bombers from Sicily into
Western Europe. It probably means that the attacks on
Malta will become intensified again and that an invasion
of the Island may be expected. The fact that the Germans
feel free to bring these bombers from Western Europe
may indicate that they know that there is no immediate
danger of a second front).
(U.K. Operations Report, July 5, 1942)
Egypt
(One clue to the stiffer British resistance in
Egypt may be in the following dispatch:)
The British report that the United Kingdom First
Armored Division participated in the fighting. (The
British First Armored Division must be a recently
arrived division, since this 18 the first mention of
its fighting in the Desert. From its designation it
is 8 division composed of veterans, probably constituted
as early as 1939).
(U.K. Operations Report, July 5, 1942)
Regraded Unclassified
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Russian Supply Route
Murmansk was heavily bombed on July 1. The commercial
port was set on fire. The town has been practically
destroyed. The ruins were still burning on the evening
of July 2.
(U.K. Operations Report, July 3, 1942)
R.A.F. Activity
On the night of July 2/3, the R.A.F. bombed Bremen.
325 planes dropped 510 tons of bombs. (Except for the
1,000 plane raids, this attack represents the heaviest
R.A.F. attack in the war to date and it received practically
no publicity).
(U.K. Operations Report, July 3, 4, 1942)
American Air Force in Europe
On July 4, twelve Boston bombers (Douglas A-20's)
attacked three airdromes in Holland. Six of the bombers
were manned by American crews. One British-menned plane
and two American-manned planes were lost.
(U.K. Operations Report, July 5, 1942)
Regraded Unclassified
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July 7, 1942.
8:55 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Colonel Greenbaum.
Colonel
Greenbaum:
Hello, Henry.
HMJr:
Eddie?
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
Are you so you can talk a minute?
G:
Yeah - Ed Foley just phoned, I guess about that.
HMJr:
Well, yeah, I wanted to talk to you 88 my
friend.
G:
Yeah, he's coming down here.
HMJr:
Well, you - are you alone?
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
Well, the point is this, Eddie. He called me
up this morning, and the man isn't thinking
straight. I don't suppose he slept all night,
and he wanted me to ask Hershey to write a
letter saying that what he had done was all
right, and 80 forth and so on. So I said,
"Well, after all, Ed, you're one in five million
and Hershey can't be writing everybody a
letter." So he said, "Well, I hold a very
prominent place, and I have served the Admini-
stration a long time," and 80 forth and 80 on.
So I said, "There's no question about it, but"
I said, "there's two things: (1) maybe Hershey
will turn me down, and (2) will it - will it
give a good public impression to have Hershey
single you out to write you a letter?" See?
G:
Yes.
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HMJr:
Hello?
G:
I get you. I haven't seen the articles.
HMJr:
Yes.
G:
Well, it's pretty bad, hmm?
HMJr:
Well, yes, it 1s. But....
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Schedule of Financing Meetings
in the Secretary's Office
on Tuesday, July 7, 1942.
9:00 Mr. Mills and Mr. Repp, Discount Corporation
9:20 Mr. Knight, Continental Illinois, Chicago
9:40 Mr. Murray, National Bank of Detroit
10:00 Mr. Ihlefeld, Savings Banks Trust Co., N. Y.
10:20 C. J. Devine, C. J. Devine and Co., N. Y.
10:40 W. R. Burgess, National City
Regraded Unclassified
July 7th
208
Chocount Corh.
750 3-yr 3 1-4% June 45
/, 250 2 14 52-55% sept.
sell at 1.20
32
open @ 1.14 14/22 Ez
Knight- Chicago.
one issue
(5yr often heriod
Sept 54
not BK pood
0
2%
Dec 49
billin
has 15
Llee 52
2
/billint
1.015/32
would not like to
respen old 52-55
says no note
210
Ihhfeld Savings BR
will not he a factor
from # 100 nuthin to 200 million
100,000
for either 2% or 2½%
looking forward to tah
issue
surgests 2% Bond
one issue
June 15. 1950 fixed - date. 7yrs Hounthy
march 1950 - 52 2%
sell at 12 The Premium
Llevine
211
2. hillim Bonds
21/4 and 2%
of one issue 2 bilder 2%
Llee 49-51 51
frice 04-06
Burgero
1
C/hellin 52-55/24
/ bellin notes 1-4-37m.
2 bluin 2%
would go.
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July 7, 1942
11:10 a.m.
FINANCING
Present:
Mr. Bell
Mr. Haas
Mr. Buffington
Mr. Murphy
Mr. Baker
Mr. Mills
H.M.JR: We have got complete confusion today.
Luckily I have told the Fed not to come until eleven-
thirty so we will have a little time.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation
with Mr. Rouse, as follows:)
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July 7, 1942.
11:12 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Mr. Rouse on the wire.
HMJr:
Hello.
Robert
Rouse:
I hope you have as lovely a day there 8.8 we
do here.
HMJr:
Thank you very much. The temperature 18 70,
blood pressure 120.
R:
Good. (Laughs) Sounds perfect.
HMJr:
You're on the loud-speaker, strictly Treasury,
and we're not in the beet sugar business.
R:
Right. The situation overnight....
HMJr:
You don't - you didn't get that.
R:
No, I don't - oh, yes, I do.
HMJr:
Did - did you see it on the ticker?
R:
No.
HMJr:
Well, it's on the ticker. They looked it up
in Standard and Poor's, and they found that in
December '41, Mr. Eccles was made chairman of
the Amalgamated Sugar Company.
R:
(Laughs) No, I hadn't seen that. But I thought -
I got the reference to him, because I know of
his interest in it.
HMJr:
No, it's on the ticker. Well, anyway....
R:
Anyway, the situation hasn't changed overnight.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
The - so it's a case of largely repeating what
I said yesterday.
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HMJr:
Do that, will you, because I've seen five
people and they've got five different stories.
R:
Uh huh. I'm not surprised, because that's
exactly what we're getting here, but there is
some coherence as I've pieced it together in
my mind overnight
HMJr:
Oh.
R:
and that is that a.s far as enthusiasm for
an issue goes
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
outside of the city, there 1s definite
interest in 8. two and a quarter percent bond.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
There is general willingness to go along with
the Treasury on what they want to do. The -
if it's a two percent bond, they'd go along,
but they're not interested in the note.
HMJr:
They're not.
R:
Not out of town.
HMJr:
I see. Well, this 1s out of town then.
R:
I'm speaking out of town.
HMJr:
Oh.
R:
As far as New York is concerned, the attitude
is pretty much this, that for themselves their
general advice 1s a split issue. They recognize
the demand for a two and a quarter percent bond,
and if the two and a quarter percent bond could
be a ten-year call, I think they'd be inclined
to recommend that plus a three-year note.
HMJr:
Well, what's a ten-year call? Where would that
put it?
R:
Well, it runs it up to about fifty-four six, I
think.
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HMJr:
Fifty-two. Ten years. We're in forty-two.
R:
Yeah. In other words, it's more fifty-two
five's or something similar.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
But obviously that - it would have to be -
well, our figures would indicate out pretty
close to fifty-four six or a late fifty-three
fifty-five.
HMJr:
I see.
R:
Or you have the tendency to pull the whole
market down somewhat.
HMJr:
I see.
R:
It really boils down to the general theory that
this 18 a piece of bank financing, that the
banks shouldn't go beyond ten years
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
....and that the banks, whether it's ten years
or a little less, should also have an opportunity
for a short issue. They'll go along with a -
one issue at two percent, but they would prefer
a little the other way.
HMJr:
What - what way would they prefer?
R:
They'd prefer the split issue.
HMJr:
How split? Say it again.
R:
I think the split they have in mind would be a
billion and a half of bonds and half a billion
notes.
HMJr:
And what would the bonds be?
R:
The bond?
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
If
HMJr:
What?
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R:
If you would issue a two and a quarter as
attractive as they want it, they'd recommend
the two and a quarter. Otherwise, the two
percent bond.
HMJr:
Well, now - the last man I saw was Randolph
Burgess, and he said - he wanted a billion
fifty-two fifty-five and a billion of notes.
Hello?
R:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
Then I said to him, "Well, now look, Randolph,
if we get out a two billion of two percent,
what will you do?" "Oh," he said, "we'll take
a big wad of it, a big wad of it."
R:
Yes, that particular bank is a seller of notes
and a buyer of bonds.
HMJr:
Now what I wanted 1s this, I was first going to
call up the Chase myself but - I mean Aldrich -
but I thought most likely you've contacted them,
haven't you?
R:
I have.
HMJr:
Now where does the Chase stand on two billion
of two's?
R:
They - they say it would be very attractive.
They wouldn't want to see you go to a two and
a quarter percent bond. They'd be quite satis-
fied and their first recommendation was all one
issue at one and five-eighths for five years.
HMJr:
Well, that's out.
R:
In talking - that was yesterday - in talking with
them again this morning, they felt that the
billion and a half - that three billion seemed
to - about that - seemed to represent the
HMJr:
Three billion?
R:
that three billion represented the - about
the ceiling of subscriptions under these condi-
tions
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HMJr:
Oh.
R:
for the time being
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
and that for - that the best thing would be
a billion and a half, say of the two percent
bond if that's what you wanted, and - and a
note, and suggested the possible reopening of
the four and a half-year one and a half. But
they'll go along with us in a substantial way.
HMJr:
They would.
R:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Well, who do you talk to there?
R:
I talked to Sheldon Green. who's the vice
president
HMJr:
Yeah, I know.
R:
....in charge of portfolio, and who has direct
access to Winthrop Aldrich
HMJr:
Well, now
R:
and Campbell.
HMJr:
Bell says, "What about Garner?"
R:
Garner recommends two issues.
HMJr:
Yeah, well, now look. Let's - let's in order
to save my time, see - the four or five big
banks
R:
All right.
HMJr:
You know where Chase - what I'd like you to do
with - we know where the Chase stands; we know
where the National City stands, on one issue
two billion two's, see?
R:
Yeah.
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HMJr:
How long will it take you to check the three
or four other of the big banks, and say if the
Treasury decides to do two billion two's, will
they go along enthusiastically? Well, I don't
mean that they have to say they like it, but as -
88 Randolph says, will they take a big wad?
I don't know what your language up there 1s.
R:
Yeah. Well, I can talk with three or four
people in twenty-five minutes.
HMJr:
Could you? The Fed's coming over at eleven-
thirty, see?
R:
Un huh.
HMJr:
Hello?
R:
Yes.
HMJr:
So if you could talk to - if you could do that,
I'll try to keep them from coming until quarter
of twelve.
R:
All right. I'll be
HMJr:
How's that?
R:
I'll be ready to talk to you at that time.
HMJr:
Because I think if - well, the way the out-of-
town banks feel (talks aside)
hello?
R:
Yes.
HMJr:
I think if the Chase and the National City and
the three or four others would say to us, "Well,
if the - if that's what the Treasury wante,
we'll go along" - hello?
R:
Yes.
HMJr:
My inclination would be to do it.
R:
Right.
HMJr:
See?
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R:
Well, I don't think there's any question as to
the answer but I'll call you back.
HMJr:
Well, don't you think it's worth checking?
R:
Oh, sure.
HMJr:
But Tatell you how I feel, Bob, and you might
just as well know. I've never gotten so much
different kind of advice. Hello?
R:
Yes.
HMJr:
Now the Fed. Board, unless they've changed since
yesterday, wanted some two billion two's.
R:
Yeah.
HMJr:
So that's what they want. The out-of-town banks
want a two billion two, and more and more we've
got to look away from New York. Well, now if
New York said, "Well, we'll go along cheerfully,"
then it's pretty much - we've got to decide our-
selves what's good, you see?
R:
Yes, I think they need - they've got to have
the leadership now and be given it and learn.
HMJr:
Pardon?
R:
I think they've got to have that leadership.
HMJr:
Yes. Well, you do think 80?
R:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Well, if I could tell where three or four more
of the big banke stood, if they would, say,
talk the way the Chase and National City does,
my inclination would be to do the two.
R:
Well, I - that is
HMJr:
What do - what do you think?
R:
you can feel - rest pretty well assured
that they do feel that way and will go along.
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HMJr:
They will go along.
R:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Well, let's make....
R:
Then I'll make the calls and
HMJr:
You don't think I'd be making a mistake on
that?
R:
Oh, no.
HMJr:
What?
R:
Oh, no.
HMJr:
You don't think 80.
R:
No, our - our advice, based on our contact with
this market, to represent that market fairly
we'd have to - as it stood now - we'd have to
recommend two issues, that 1s, 8. billion and a
half and five hundred million.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
We would say for ourselves that, in the light of
that, we'd also make the same recommendation but
we'd - we think two billion two's is just 88
good.
HMJr:
I see. Well, get busy and call me back.
R:
Right.
HMJr:
I thank you.
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