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The original documents are located in Box 8, folder "Energy - President's Program (2)" of
the Loen and Leppert Files at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library.
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Digitized from Box 8 of the Loen and Leppert Files at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 15, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JACK MARSH
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR.
CLg.
SUBJECT:
Format for Dingell Hearings on the
President's Energy Program
February 17, 1975
The format for the Dingell hearings on the President's Energy Program on
Monday, February 17, 1975, subject to last minute changes, will be as
follows:
(1)
The hearings will commence at 10:00 a. m., Monday, February 17, 1975
in Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building.
(2)
Chairman John Dingell will open the hearings with an opening statement
on the purpose of the hearings, etc.
(3)
The Administration witness panel consisting of Alan Greenspan, Frank
Zarb, and Tom Enders will each proceed with a statement on the
President's energy program, its implication and impacts of approxi-
mately ten (10) to fifteen (15) minutes duration and respond to questions
from Members as a panel.
(4)
Mr. Greenspan will be excused at approximately 12 clock noon to
12:30 p.m.
(5)
Mr. Zarb and Mr. Enders should be prepared to return after a luncheon
break to resume the hearings at 2 p.m.
(6)
Mr. Simon is expected to present his testimony upon arrival between
2 - 2:30 p.m. and respond to questions of Members along with Mr. Zarb
and Mr. Enders as a panel.
(7)
ABC-TV will provide television coverage of the hearings on Monday,
February 17th in addition to other media coverage.
2
(8)
I am advised that the Enders article "Agreement to Share Oil In New
Cutoff Defended" appearing in the Washington Post, Saturday, February
15th will provoke some questions from Members.
cc:
Secretary Morton
Secretary Simon
Asst. Sec. Tom Enders
Chairman Greenspan
Administrator Zarb
W.H. - Seidman
Cavanaugh
Loen
Schleede
RED TAG
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 15, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JACK MARSH
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR. CLg.
SUBJECT:
Format for Dingell Hearings on the
President's Energy Program
February 17, 1975
The format for the Dingell hearings on the President Energy Program on
Monday, February 17, 1975, subject to last minute changes, will be as
follows:
(1)
The hearings will commence at 10:00 a. m., Monday, February 17, 1975
in Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building.
(2)
Chairman John Dingell will open the hearings with an opening statement
on the purpose of the hearings, etc.
(3)
The Administration witness panel consisting of Alan Greenspan, Frank
Zarb, and Tom Enders will each proceed with a statement on the
President's energy program, its implication and impacts of approxi-
mately ten (10) to fifteen (15) minutes duration and respond to questions
from Members as a panel.
(4)
Mr. Greenspan will be excused at approximately 12 o'clock noon to
12:30 p.m.
(5)
Mr. Zarb and Mr. Enders should be prepared to return after a luncheon
break to resume the hearings at 2 p.m.
(6)
Mr. Simon is expected to present his testimony upon arrival between
2 - 2:30 p.m. and respond to questions of Members along with Mr. Zarb
and Mr. Enders as a panel.
(7)
ABC-TV will provide television coverage of the hearings on Monday,
February 17th in addition to other media coverage.
2
(8)
I am advised that the Enders article "Agreement to Share Oil In New
Cutoff Defended" appearing in the Washington Post, Saturday, February
15th will provoke some questions from Members.
cc:
Secretary Morton
Secretary Simon
Asst. Sec. Tom Enders
Chairman Greenspan
Administrator Zarb
W.H. - Seidman
Cavanaugh
Loen
Schleede
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 18, 1975
TO:
VERN LOEN
CHARLES LEPPERT
MIKE DUVAL
FROM:
Glenn Schleede
Attached for your information.
cc: Eric Fygi
Jim Rubin
Referred to Commerce Carte (House) as as oficial Executive
Communication
UNITED PROTECTION STATES AGENCY
UNITED STATES ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20460
February 10, 1975
OFFICE OF THE
ADMINISTRATOR
Dear Mr. Speaker:
On January 30, 1975, the President transmitted
to the Congress a proposed omnibus energy bill -- the
Energy Independence Act of 1975. Included within this
proposed omnibus bill are several amendments to the
Clean Air Act.
It has been brought to my attention that during the
final stages of preparation of this omnibus bill for
transmittal to the Congress, certain material was inadvertently
left out of the final package. Attached is the material
which should be placed in the omnibus bill at the appropriate
point in Title V - Clean Air Act Amendments of 1975, Section
503-Automobile emission standards.
Sincerely yours,
/s/ Russell E. Train
Russell E. Train
Administrator
Honorable Carl Albert
Speaker of the House
House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20505
Enclosure
ATTACHMENT
" (d) Section 202 (b) (1) (B) is further amended to
delete the fourth sentence and insert the following
in lieu thereof:
"The regulations under subsection (a)
applicable to emissions of oxides of
nitrogen from light-duty vehicles and
engines manufactured during model years
1977 through 1981, inclusive, shall con-
tain standards equivalent to the emission
standards for this pollutant that apply
to new vehicles and engines offered for
sale in all of the States (except California)
during the model year 1975."
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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 20, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
THRU:
VERN LOEN or
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR.
SUBJECT:
Proposed Ullman - Committee on Ways
and Means Energy Hearings
John Meagher called to state that A1 Ullman is planning two (2) weeks of panel
hearings on the total energy situation starting March 3 or 10. No public
announcement has been made of these panel hearings yet. Administration
witnesses will not be asked to testify until after the panels have been heard by
the Committee. The panel hearings will be televised but no decision has been
made on live television.
Meagher has asked me to supply him with a list of non-administration witnesses
who can testify on all aspects of the energy situation by noon, Friday, February
21st, who are favorable to the President's energy program and can rebut the
testimony of panelists called by Ullman and the Majority in opposition to the
President's energy program. Meagher has asked that we not publicize our
assistance so that it does not appear that the Administration has named the
witnesses to be called by the Committee Minority.
Do we have names of non-administration people who assisted in putting the
President's energy program together who could fill this role?
I have asked Duval, Schleede and Eric Zausner for this information.
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 20, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
GLENN SCHLEEDE
THRU:
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
VERN LOEN
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR.
ag.
SUBJECT:
Omission of Sec. 503(d) auto emission
standards from the Omnibus Energy
Bill - H. R. 2650
The House Parliamentarian informs me that the Train letter to the Speaker
on the omission of section 503(d) has been referred to the House Interstate
Committee as an official Executive Communication.
In addition, I have checked this with Dennis Taylor, Mr. Rhodes legislative
assistant who states that section 503(d) should have been printed in the
Rhodes bill H. R. 2650. Both Taylor and the House Parliamentarian have
requested the official papers to determine if it is a GPO printing error.
I have just received word that Mr. Rhodes is requesting that H. R. 2650 be
reprinted inserting Sec. 503(d) which was left out of the original printing of
the bill inadvertently by GPO.
New Section 503(d) - to be
in sented on p.49
(d) Section 202 (b)(1)(B) is further amended to delete the
fourth sentence and insert the following in lieu thereof:
"The regulations under subsection (a) applicable
to emissions of oxides of nitrogen from light
duty vehicles and engines manufactured during
model years 1977 through 1981, inclusive,
shall contain standards equivalent to the
emission standards for this pollutant that
apply to new vehicles and engines offered
for sale in all of the States (except California)
during the model year 1975."
- 48A-
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 22, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JOHN O. MARSH
MAX L. FRIEDERSDORF
THRU:
VERN LOEN
VL
FROM:
DOUGLAS P. BENNETT
DPB
SUBJECT:
President's Energy Plan
During a conversation with Chuck Wiggins yesterday, he gave
me an actual example of how the President's energy conserva-
tion plan actually worked for a California family.
A Los Angeles Times reporter, who had gasoline credit cards
for himself and his family, had figured out the actual amount of
gasoline consumed each month. He took his wife's credit cards
away and gave her a like amount each month. He found that be-
cause she was making a free economic choice she elected to spend
less on gasoline and reduced the gasoline consumption by 1/3 thus
spending the money on other things of her choice.
This strikes me as a very interesting example on how the Presi-
dent's program can work and it might be useful for public use
sometime in the future.
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 24, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR: JOHN O. MARSH
THRU:
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
VERNON LOEN VL
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR.
SUBJECT:
Report on Dingell Hearings on the
President's Energy Program
The information contained in this report is a subcommittee minority
staff appraisal of the hearings and are reported by the panels appearing.
Administration Panel
The general consensus was that the Administration did not present a
strong case for its energy programs. Specifically, the Administration
witnesses failed to establish a case or clear cut requirement for the
need to reduce oil imports by one million barrels per day by the end of
1975 and by two million barrels before the end of 1977. The numbers
put forth did not support a clear case to reduce imports and the national
security argument was not made well.
More information needs to be supplied to the subcommittee specifically
a chart requested by Representative Heinz showing the actions required
by the President's energy program for each different energy source and
its impact on the economy by energy source on a year by year basis.
Economist Panel
In general the panel of three (3) economists opposed the President's
energy program.
Mr. Perry opposed the duty on oil imports and an excise tax on domestic
oil. He favors a two-tier price system for domestic production. Opposes
a windfall profits tax but favors deregulation of natural gas, establishment
of import quotas and a bidding system with foreign oil producers as a
method of breaking up the OPEC cartel.
-2-
Mr. Owens opposes the President's imposition of oil import tariffs
and rationing. He favors going to a import quota system gradually
while retaining the mandatory allocation program and a gradual de-
control of old oil with a phase out of the two-tier pricing system. The
Subcommittee has requested the Treasury Department for an analysis
of his testimony as to its tax aspects.
Mr. Adelman supported his own theory of requiring the OPEC cartel
to bid on providing the U.S. with oil.
Auto Industry Panel
Chrysler supported the amendments to the clean air act and stated
it could not voluntarily meet the standards without the delays requested
by the President.
General Motors supported the President's program in its "broad thrust"
and favored the decontrol of old oil.
Ford supports the Presi dent's reliance on the price mechanism and the
deregulation of old oil but states that the program should be implemented
on a gradual basis. Ford supported the clean air act amendments and
called for less stringent ones.
United Auto Workers Panel
Opposed the President's use of the price mechanism as inflationary.
Stated the drastic reductions of the President's program are not called
for under present economic conditions. Opposed the deregulation of
natural gas, favored a multi-tier pricing system and enforcement of
anti-trust laws against energy companies.
Utilities Panel
Opposed increase in oil import tariffs. Some supported oil import
quotas. Supported revision of rate structures, facility siting and
clean air act amendments. Opposed the decontrol of natural gas.
Energy Producers Panel
Supported generally the decontrol of old oil but opposed the windfall
profits tax without meaningful plowback provisions. Supported the
deregulation of natural gas.
-3-
Industrial Consumers Panel
Stated there was no need to cut back on consumption as rapidly as
proposed in the President's program. Stro ngly supported voluntary
conservation as still possible and citing the previous embargo. Un-
clear on the deregulation of natural gas and old oil.
State Government Panel
Opposed the President's program and the decontrol of old oil. Supported
an extension of the mandatory allocation program.
Local Government Panel
Favored conservation of energy on a voluntary basis and opposed the
decontrol of old oil.
Consumers Panel
Opposed the President's program as too expensive and inflationary.
Opposed the imposition of oil import tariffs and deregulation of natural
gas. Supported an import quota system on foreign oil.
Transportation Panel
The railroads, water carriers, truckers all stated that the President's
program will require rate increases. The Airlines stated their need
for an exemption because the President's program will cost the airlines
$900 million per year.
Petrochemical Users Panel
Stated a need for an exemption from the excise taxes and any tax on
feedstocks should be eliminated.
Panel on Policy Alternatives
Mr. Peter Peterson supported the decontrol of old oil gradually.
Supported the windfall profits tax if tied to plowback provisions.
Called for mandatory conservation for heating and lighting.
-4-
Mr. John Sawhill stated that the President's program requires too
much in a weakened economy. Does not favor price decontrol of old
oil but a gradual abandonment of the two-tier price system to a single
ceiling price for all oil and let the old oil price rise 10 percent a year
to the ceiling.
A copy of the list of witnesses appearing before the Dingell Subcommittee
is attached.
The Dingell Subcommittee now plans to begin hearings and mark-up
of Title XIII, "Standby Energy Authorities" of the President's program
on March 3rd. Dingell will use his own bill H.R. 2991 as the mark-
up bill.
Attachment
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 24, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JOHN O. MARSH
THRU:
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
VERNON LOEN VL
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR.
SUBJECT:
Report on Dingell Hearings on the
President's Energy Program
The information contained in this report is a subcommittee minority
staff appraisal of the hearings and are reported by the panels appearing.
Administration Panel
The general consensus was that the Administration did not present a
strong case for its energy programs. Specifically, the Administration
witnesses failed to establish a case or clear cut requirement for the
need to reduce oil imports by one million barrels per day by the end of
1975 and by two million barrels before the end of 1977. The numbers
put forth did not support a clear case to reduce imports and the national
security argument was not made well.
More information needs to be supplied to the subcommittee specifically
a chart requested by Representative Heinz showing the actions required
by the President's energy program for each different energy source and
its impact on the economy by energy source on a year by year basis.
Economist Panel
In general the panel of three (3) economists opposed the President's
energy program.
Mr. Perry opposed the duty on oil imports and an excise tax on domestic
oil. He favors a two-tier price system for domestic production. Opposes
a windfall profits tax but favors deregulation of natural gas, establishment
of import quotas and a bidding system with foreign oil producers as a
method of breaking up the OPEC cartel.
-2-
Mr. Owens opposes the President's imposition of oil import tariffs
and rationing. He favors going to a import quota system gradually
while retaining the mandatory allocation program and a gradual de-
control of old oil with a phase out of the two-tier pricing system. The
Subcommittee has requested the Treasury Department for an analysis
of his testimony as to its tax aspects.
Mr. Adelman supported his own theory of requiring the OPEC cartel
to bid on providing the U.S. with oil.
Auto Industry Panel
Chrysler supported the amendments to the clean air act and stated
it could not voluntarily meet the standards without the delays requested
by the President.
General Motors supported the President's program in its "broad thrust"
and favored the decontrol of old oil.
Ford supports the President's reliance on the price mechanism and the
deregulation of old oil but states that the program should be implemented
on a gradual basis. Ford supported the clean air act amendments and
called for less stringent ones.
United Auto Workers Panel
Opposed the President's use of the price mechanism as inflationary.
Stated the drastic reductions of the President's program are not called
for under present economic conditions. Opposed the deregulation of
natural gas, favored a multi-tier pricing system and enforcement of
anti-trust laws against energy companies.
Utilities Panel
Opposed increase in oil import tariffs. Some supported oil import
quotas. Supported revision of rate structures, facility siting and
clean air act amendments. Opposed the decontrol of natural gas.
Energy Producers Panel
Supported generally the decontrol of old oil but opposed the windfall
profits tax without meaningful plowback provisions. Supported the
deregulation of natural gas.
-3-
Industrial Consumers Panel
Stated there was no need to cut back on consumption as rapidly as
proposed in the President's program. Stro ngly supported voluntary
conservation as still possible and citing the previous embargo. Un-
clear on the deregulation of natural gas and old oil.
State Government Panel
Opposed the President's program and the decontrol of old oil. Supported
an extension of the mandatory allocation program.
Local Government Panel
Favored conservation of energy on a voluntary basis and opposed the
decontrol of old oil.
Consumers Panel
Opposed the President's program as too expensive and inflationary.
Opposed the imposition of oil import tariffs and deregulation of natural
gas. Supported an import quota system on foreign oil.
Transportation Panel
The railroads, water carriers, truckers all stated that the President's
program will require rate increases. The Airlines stated their need
for an exemption because the President's program will cost the airlines
$900 million per year.
Petrochemical Users Panel
Stated a need for an exemption from the excise taxes and any tax on
feedstocks should be eliminated.
Panel on Policy Alternatives
Mr. Peter Peterson supported the decontrol of old oil gradually.
Supported the windfall profits tax if tied to plowback provisions.
Called for mandatory conservation for heating and lighting.
-4-
Mr. John Sawhill stated that the President's program requires too
much in a weakened economy. Does not favor price decontrol of old
oil but a gradual abandonment of the two-tier price system to a single
ceiling price for all oil and let the old oil price rise 10 percent a year
to the ceiling.
A copy of the list of witnesses appearing before the Dingell Subcommittee
is attached.
The Dingell Subcommittee now plans to begin hearings and mark-up
of Title XIII, "Standby Energy Authorities" of the President's program
on March 3rd. Dingell will use his own bill H.R. 2991 as the mark-
up bill.
Attachment
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 24, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JOHN O. MARSH
THRU:
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
VERNON LOEN VL
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR.
SUBJECT:
Report on Dingell Hearings on the
President's Energy Program
The information contained in this report is a subcommittee minority
staff appraisal of the hearings and are reported by the panels appearing.
Administration Panel
The general consensus was that the Administration did not present a
strong case for its energy programs. Specifically, the Administration
witnesses failed to establish a case or clear cut requirement for the
need to reduce oil imports by one million barrels per day by the end of
1975 and by two million barrels before the end of 1977. The numbers
put forth did not support a clear case to reduce imports and the national
security argument was not made well.
More information needs to be supplied to the subcommittee specifically
a chart requested by Representative Heinz showing the actions required
by the President's energy program for each different energy source and
its impact on the economy by energy source on a year by year basis.
Economist Panel
In general the panel of three (3) economists opposed the President's
energy program.
Mr. Perry opposed the duty on oil imports and an excise tax on domestic
oil. He favors a two-tier price system for domestic production. Opposes
a windfall profits tax but favors deregulation of natural gas, establishment
of import quotas and a bidding system with foreign oil producers as a
method of breaking up the OPEC cartel.
-2-
Mr. Owens opposes the President's imposition of oil import tariffs
and rationing. He favors going to a import quota system gradually
while retaining the mandatory allocation program and a gradual de-
control of old oil with a phase out of the two-tier pricing system. The
Subcommittee has requested the Treasury Department for an analysis
of his testimony as to its tax aspects.
Mr. Adelman supported his own theory of requiring the OPEC cartel
to bid on providing the U.S. with oil.
Auto Industry Panel
Chrysler supported the amendments to the clean air act and stated
it could not voluntarily meet the standards without the delays requested
by the President.
General Motors supported the President's program in its "broad thrust"
and favored the decontrol of old oil.
Ford supports the President's reliance on the price mechanism and the
deregulation of old oil but states that the program should be implemented
on a gradual basis. Ford supported the clean air act amendments and
called for less stringent ones.
United Auto Workers Panel
Opposed the President's use of the price mechanism as inflationary.
Stated the drastic reductions of the President's program are not called
for under present economic conditions. Opposed the deregulation of
natural gas, favored a multi-tier pricing system and enforcement of
anti-trust laws against energy companies.
Utilities Panel
Opposed increase in oil import tariffs. Some supported oil import
quotas. Supported revision of rate structures, facility siting and
clean air act amendments. Opposed the decontrol of natural gas.
Energy Producers Panel
Supported generally the decontrol of old oil but opposed the windfall
profits tax without meaningful plowback provisions. Supported the
deregulation of natural gas.
-3-
Industrial Consumers Panel
Stated there was no need to cut back on consumption as rapidly as
proposed in the President's program. Stro ngly supported voluntary
conservation as still possible and citing the previous embargo. Un-
clear on the deregulation of natural gas and old oil.
State Government Panel
Opposed the President's program and the decontrol of old oil. Supported
an extension of the mandatory allocation program.
Local Government Panel
Favored conservation of energy on a voluntary basis and opposed the
decontrol of old oil.
Consumers Panel
Opposed the President's program as too expensive and inflationary.
Opposed the imposition of oil import tariffs and deregulation of natural
gas. Supported an import quota system on foreign oil.
Transportation Panel
The railroads, water carriers, truckers all stated that the President's
program will require rate increases. The Airlines stated their need
for an exemption because the President's program will cost the airlines
$900 million per year.
Petrochemical Users Panel
Stated a need for an exemption from the excise taxes and any tax on
feedstocks should be eliminated.
Panel on Policy Alternatives
Mr. Peter Peterson supported the decontrol of old oil gradually.
Supported the windfall profits tax if tied to plowback provisions.
Called for mandatory conservation for heating and lighting.
-4-
Mr. John Sawhill stated that the President's program requires too
much in a weakened economy. Does not favor price decontrol of old
oil but a gradual abandonment of the two-tier price system to a single
ceiling price for all oil and let the old oil price rise 10 percent a year
to the ceiling.
A copy of the list of witnesses appearing before the Dingell Subcommittee
is attached.
The Dingell Subcommittee now plans to begin hearings and mark-up
of Title XIII, "Standby Energy Authorities" of the President's program
on March 3rd. Dingell will use his own bill H.R. 2991 as the mark-
up bill.
Attachment
PRESS RELEASE FROM THE OFFICE
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
OF CONGRESSMAN JOHN D. DINGELL,
D-MICHIGAN, 16TH DISTRICT
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 1975
WITNESS LIST SELECTED FOR DINGELL
ENERGY AND POWER HEARINGS
Congressman John D. Dingell, D-Michigan, Chairman of the House Energy
and Power Subcommittee of the Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee today
announced the witness and panel list for hearings in the Subcommittee, February 17-21.
The new Subcommittee is taking testimony on President Ford's energy
messages to Congress and the pressing energy problems facing the Nation and
affecting all sectors of the economy.
Witnesses include representatives of energy producing and consuming
industries, the Federal Government, consumer groups, and State and local governments.
"The Subcommittee, in these initial morning and afternoon hearings,
is seeking a complete overview of the energy supply, distribution and user demand
problems," stated Chairman Dingell.
He added, "Following the week of overview on energy matters, the
Subcommittee will make determinations as to which specific energy proposals,
legislation, alternatives and recommendations will receive our attention first."
The witnesss list is attached.
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WITNESS LIST
HEARINGS ON PRESIDENTIAL ENERGY PROGRAM
Monday, February 17 - Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
10 a.m.
Administration Witnesses:
Honorable William E. Simon, Secretary, Department of the Treasury
(tentative)
accompanied by --
Honorable Ed Fiedler, Assistant Secretary for Economic Policy
Honorable Frank Zarb, Administrator, Federal Energy Administration
Honorable Thomas Enders, Assistant Secretary for Economic Affairs,
Department of State
Honorable Alan Greenspan, Chairman, Council of Economic Advisors
Tuesday, February 18 - Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
2 p.m.
Panel of Economists:
George L. Perry, Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution
Charles R. Owens, Charles Owens and Associates
M. A. Adelman, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Thursday, February 20 - Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
10 a.m.
Auto Industry Panel:
Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, American Motors
United Auto Workers - Duane (Pat) Greathouse, Vice President
Utilities Panel:
Thomas J. Galligan, Jr., Boston Edison Company
W. Donham Crawford, President, Edison Electric Institute
Alex Radin, American Public Power Association
Ben Fuqua, Florida Power and Light Company
2 p.m.
Energy Producers Panel:
Frank Ikard, President, American Petroleum Institute
Bud Lawrence, Vice President, American Gas Association
Carl Bagge, President, National Coal Association
C. John Miller, President, Independent Petroleum Association
of America
Walter Rogers, President, Interstate Natural Gas Association
of America
Industrial Consumers Panel:
National Association of Manufacturers - witnesses to be
announced
Milton Stewart, National Small Business Association
- 2 -
Friday, February 21 - - Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
10 a.m.
State Government Panel:
Honorable Thomas P. Salmon, Governor of the State of Vermont and
Chairman, National Governors Conference Committee on Natural
Resources and Environmental Management
Honorable Dolph Briscoe, Governor of the State of Texas
Local Government Panel:
Conference of Mayors - witnesses to be announced
League of Cities - - witnesses to be announced
National Association of Counties witnesses to be announced
Consumers Panel:
Garry DeLoss
Lee Cary White, DeLoss, Consumer Public Federation Interest Research of America Center Group
Witness to be announced - Farm Bureau
Jim Cubie, Congress Watch
2 p.m.
Transportation Industry Panel:
Paul Ignatius, Air Transport Association
Carl Lyon, American Association of Railroads
Charles Webb, National Association of Motor Bus Operators
William A. Bresnahan, American Trucking Association
John Creedy, Water Transport Association
Bill Stokes, American Public Transit Association
Petrochemical Users Panel:
Witnesses to be announced
Panel on Policy Alternatives:
Honorable John Sawhill, Former Administrator, Federal Energy
Administration
Honorable Peter Peterson, Chairman of the Board, Lehman
Brothers, Former Secretary of Commerce
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
Charlie --
Mike Duval's office called to say that there will be a
meeting today - 2/12/75
Ken Cole's Office - 2nd Flr. West Wing
11:30 a. m. - brief meeting - about 15 minutes
Subject - Dingell Hearings
Participants - Ken Cole
Jim Cavanaugh -P
Frank Zarb-P
Wm. Seidman -P
Mike Duval - P
GLENN SCHEEME P
JERRY WARREN -
Duval wants you to extend an invitation to Max Friedersdorf
to attend the meeting. LEPPERT-P.
Neta
2/12/75
For 2- 17-75
ZARB - FEA
HICKMAN- GARDNER. - TRESY. - ED FIEDLER
ENDERS - STATE
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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 11, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JACK MARSH
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
THRU:
VERN LOEN
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR.
CLg.
SUBJECT:
Dingell Hearings On President's Energy
Program - Suggested Witness List
Attached for your information is the proposed witness list for the hearings on
the President's energy program before the Subcommittee on Energy and Power
of the House Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee and Chaired by John
Dingell.
At the request of Mike Duval and Glenn Schleede we had the two principal sub-
committee staff people for a working lunch here at the White House Mess. The
purpose of the working lunch was to give Duval and Schleede and the two prin-
cipal staff people (Curtis and Vlcek) the opportunity to exchange information
on the purpose and conduct of the hearings beginning February 17th.
The Subcommittee on Energy and Power is composed of the following members:
Dingell, Chairman
Brown (Ohio), Ranking Minority
Staggers
Devine
Murphy (NY)
Broyhill
Eckhardt
Heinz
Ottinger
Moorhead (Calif.)
Krueger
Wirth
Sharp
Brodhead
Moffett
cc: Bennett
SUGGESTED WITNESS LIST
February 17
- Administration:
Witnesses to be identified by the President
[These should include Zarb; Simon: Charles Robinson, Undersecretary
for Economic Affairs, Department of State]
February 18
p.m. Only
- Panel of Economists:
John C. Sawhill, Former FEA Administrator
Charles Schultze, the Brookings Institution, Former OMB Director
under President Johnson
George L. Perry, Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution
Charles R. Owens, President of Charles Owens and Associates,
consultants on energy, economics and Dublic policy, Former
Deputy Assistant Administrator for Policy Planning and Regu-
lation at FEA and Director of the Energy Division, Cost of
Living Council
Hazel Henderson, Princeton University
M. A. Adelman, M.I.T.
Hendrik Houthakker, Harvard University
(Alan Greenspan, Council of Economic Advisors, if not present on
February 17)
Milton Friedman, V. of Chicago
February 20
a.m.
- Labor and Consumer Panel
Andrew J. Biemiller, AFL-CIO
Leonard Woodcock, UAW
Lee White, Consumer Federation of America
- Utilities Panel
Thomas J. Galligan, Jr., Boston Edison Company, representing
Edison Electric Institute
Alex Radin, American Public Power Association
Guy W. Nicholls, on behalf of New England Power Pool and New
England Electric System
-2-
p.m. (February 20)
- Energy Producers Panel
Frank Ikard, American Petroleum Institute
Witness to be designated, American Gas Association
Carl Bagge, Coal Association
Witness to be designated, Independent Petroleum Association of
America
- Industrial Consumers Panel
Witness to be designated, National Association of Manufacturers
Milton D. Stewart, National Small Business Association
February 21
a.m.
- Panel of State Governors
Witness to be designated by National Council of Governors, with
specific request for Dukakis of Mass. and Shapp of Pa.
Briscoe OF Texas
- Panel of Mayors and County Executives
Joseph Alioto, Mayor of San Francisco and President of the
United States Conference of Mayors
Nicholas Panuzio, Mayor of Bridgeport, Connecticut, on behalf of
the National League of Cities
Witness to be designated, National Association of Counties
p.m.
- Panel on Transportation
Paul Ignatius, President, Air Transport Association of America
Witness to be designated, American Association of Railroads
Witness to be designated, National Association of Motor Bus
Operators
Witness to be designated, American Trucking Association
- Petrochemical Users
Witness to be designated, PEG
Witness to be designated, SOCMA
- Anto Users
Manufacturers
AAA
Agri. Business
DINGELL HEARINGS
Date (Feb.)
Committee Action
Administration Response
Monday, 17th
Administration witnesses
Define energy problems
Defining specific need for immediate
action. Include international implica-
tions and national defense argument.
Goal - to find exactly why 1,000,000
barrels a day in '75 and 2,000,000 barrels
in '77.
Briefly cover how President's program
solves entire problem and why it must
hang together as a total package.
Cover decontrol on April 1. Be prepared
to respond as to whether or not the
President will do this or will he com-
promise.
Tuesday, 18th
Panel of economists
Basic thrust of testimony will be that
Have Greenspan join the panel
the President's program does not make
as a witness.
economic sense, will be deflationary,
will be inflationary and will severely
Try to get private economists
hurt the poor, etc.
on panel also, such as George
Schultz.
Have white paper prepared on
"ripple effect", impact on
income levels, etc.
2
Date (Feb.)
Committee Action
Administration Response
Weds , 19th
No hearings scheduled
Have major Administration PR
event to make the following
arguments:
Labor and consumers are pro-
tected under President's plan
compared to other plans.
Utility companies will be taken
care of.
State and local governments
taken care of.
Transportation and energy-
intensive users taken care of.
Thurs. , 20th
Labor and consumer panel. AFL-CIO,
Refer to announcements of
Woodcock and Lee White.
preceeding day and have sympa-
thetic Congressman or Senator
Utilities panel.
rebut point by point, preferably
during the Committee hearings.
Energy producers panel (Ikard, Bagge,
and somebody from the independents)
Industrial consumers' panel
3
Date (Feb. )
Committee Action
Administration Response
Fri. , 21st
State governors
Consider having Governor Edwards
at the White House for meeting
Mayors and county executives
or to meet with Morton.
Transportation
Get a strong statement by key airline
presidents to undercut the transpor-
Petrochemical
tation argument.
SUGGESTED WITNESS LIST
February 17
- Administration:
Witnesses to be identified by the President
[These should include Zarb; Simon; Charles Robinson, Undersecretary
for Economic Affairs, Department of State]
February 18
p.m. Only
- Panel of Economists:
John C. Sawhill, Former FEA Administrator
Charles Schultze, the Brookings Institution, Former OMB Director
under President Johnson
George L. Perry, Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution
Charles R. Owens, President of Charles Owens and Associates,
consultants on energy, economics and public policy, Former
Deputy Assistant Administrator for Policy Planning and Regu-
lation at FEA and Director of the Energy Division, Cost of
Living Council
Hazel Henderson, Princeton University
M. A. Adelman, M.I.T.
Hendrik Houthakker, Harvard University
(Alan Greenspan, Council of Economic Advisors, if not present on
February 17)
Milton Friedman, V. of Chicago
February 20
a.m.
- Labor and Consumer Panel
Andrew J. Biemiller, AFL-CIO
Leonard Woodcock, UAW
Lee White, Consumer Federation of America:
- Utilities Panel
Thomas J. Galligan, Jr., Boston Edison Company, representing
Edison Electric Institute
Alex Radin, American Public Power Association
Guy W. Nicholls, on behalf of New England Power Pool and New
England Electric System
-2-
p.m. (February 20)
- Energy Producers Panel
Frank Ikard, American Petroleum Institute
Witness to be designated, American Gas Association
Carl Bagge, Coal Association
Witness to be designated, Independent Petroleum Association of
America
- Industrial Consumers Panel
Witness to be designated, National Association of Manufacturers
Milton D. Stewart, National Small Business Association
February 21
a.m.
- Panel of State Governors
Witness to be designated by National Council of Governors, with
specific request for Dukakis of Mass. and Shapp of Pa.
Briscoe of Texas
- Panel of Mayors and County Executives
Joseph Alioto, Mayor of San Francisco and President of the
United States Conference of Mayors
Nicholas Panuzio, Mayor of Bridgeport, Connecticut, on behalf of
the National League of Cities
Witness to be designated, National Association of Counties
p.m.
- Panel on Transportation
Paul Ignatius, President, Air Transport Association of America
Witness to be designated, American Association of Railroads
Witness to be designated, National Association of Motor Bus
Operators
Witness to be designated, American Trucking Association
- Petrochemical Users
Witness to be designated, PEG
Witness to be designated, SOCMA
- Anto Users
Manufacturers
AAA
Aari Bucinecc
John O.
Memo for Jack March
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V.L.
From:
Cigi. huies Leppert, Jr.
Subject:
Report on ON Dengell Hearings onthe
DINGELL
President's Energy Program.
The information contained Ln this
report is k, Minority staff uffraised f
hearings & are reported Zy the famels affer-
mg. administration Pause
The feveral consences was that the advincest
ration did not present a strong case for in energy
proge am. Sprinfically, menterned a the rusin
question specifically, the adminest eation when
is failed to establish a case on clear cut
requirement for the need to reduce ail surports
by one Million barreld you day by the ludy 1975
by two dullion burrer before the end g 1977. The
number put faith did kat NATIONA support a clean ARSUM case
ENT to reduce unpacts t WELL the notice security ayam.
put was wh made well. More information reed
the puppleed to the subcommetter specifically
k cleart requested by Reg. Heing Alcowing the
actions required by the Presedents every for-
from for each different energy Anne & ut> impact
on the leonomy by energy source on a year by
year hasis.
Economists Pame
GERALD GERALD R.
In general the pance of there(3) remonists
d
apposed the Presidents every program.
Mr. Perry appared the duty on oil computer
t in herei tax m domestic oil. He forans a
two -tier price system for domutic Production.
Opposen windfall projets tax but from he-
regulation of Mahural far, estables human of uniport
gustas + a bidding paytem with forcy ail
producers as a method of treaking up the OAEL C
cartel.
nr. Owens apposes the Presidents importation
of oil import taiff rationing He forow
yours
A a graduand import quara system fradually
while retaining the Handalary allocation
program + a gradual decentral 8 old ail with
h please out after two-ter priving system. The
has requested the Treasury Dept.
in tax aspects
ment for an analysis f his testiming as to
Mr. adelman they of
requiring the OPEL cartel to bid on providing
the U.S. with oil.
auto frductry Panel
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Chropler supported the currendments to thee
clean air ach & ttated it comednal Valuntarily
must the standards without the delays requested
by the President.
Deneral Meators Propported the Presedenti
program in its "broad thrust F forwared the
decontral of and ail.
Fard supports the Presedents release on
the price Mechanism t thes desegnlation fold OLD
oil hit states that the program should be
suplemented m a fradual Vasis. and supported
the clean ariach amendmer to to called for less stringent
3
ones.
lented Quto lookers Panel
Oppose the President's use often frien
Nechanism as inflationary Stated the drastic
reductions after President's program are Sup called
for under present lemomic conditions. Offored
the deregalation of natural fas, fanared a Smelti-
ter pricing Aptem f enforcement z anti-
trush laws against energy companies.
Utilities Panel
Offered werean in ail import touffs.
Aorne REVISION supported ail unifort gustas Supported
redision of rate structures, faillity siting
t clean an act amerdments. Offered the
Resorthal of Naturalfas.
Energy Producers Panel
Supported generally the decentral of old oil
Tuk apposed the windfall propets tax with
aut meaningful almobrash Support-
ed the deregulation of Matural Sas.
Industrial Consumers Panel
Stated there was no headto cut back on
communption as rajidly as proposed in the Pre.
idents program. Strongly supported voluntary
conservation as still Josuble & citing the
previous entaggo. Muslear on the deregulat DEREGULATION
con n natural for t old oil.
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State Somemeerat Panel
Offored the Presedents program & the
desmtrate 2 old ail. Supported HE an ext-
encon often Mandatory allocation program.
Love Government lance
Janared the conservation fevergy on a
voluntary basis & opposed the decemtance of
ald oil.
Consumers Pause
Offased the President: program as to
expense X Inflatromary. Offaced the imposit.
con of ail import Thriffs t deregulation of natural
fad. Augusted an import quota septem on
foreign oil.
Transportation Pance
the water cameis, truchers
all stated that President's program will require
rate increased. The anlines stated then had
for an exemption because the Presedent) awy-
ram will Cost the airlines 900 Million per
year,
Petrochemical Users Pauel
Stated a need for an exemption from the
theire taxes & any tax on feedstocks FORD should
be eliminated
Panel m Policy alternatives
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mr. Peter Reternon supported the desmited
yold ail gradually supported the windface
profits day if tied to alowbach provisions.
Called for Mandatory conservation for heating
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t lighting.
nu. John somenie stated the the Print
Presedents prop am requires too muchin a
weakend economy. Dace nat faxor price
decentrol good ail mt a fradual alond-
amount two ter prese system to
a single ceiling Jusi for all ail + letthe
old all price rise 10 percent a year
to the culing.
test
a copy ather, witnesses appearing
before the Dingel 6 attached
The Dingell now flous
to begin hearings & mark- up of Title XIII
the Premient's hungy program "Standly
Energy authorites of the Presedent: program
on March 3rd. Dingell will rice his own
bree HR. 2991 as the mark-up bill.
GERALD R. BERALD R. FORD
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tarms Consumption
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admin - for Pi program - Cente
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nembers dm 'f hald up.
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More info Mines be provided
example - Henis - no care on limit
nat'l plants argument
of comports to / tereem me you day so
not made
Gursby ppersen - ask for chart an the
artim, for each of different
lurgy smeen X in part P's
program a la source on yr by
yr basis.
Economists - Perry - appared to duty on hughests
a excese Pay on donister are
from our ter prese uptur
for donerte production - gant
8 hus hat il gas fames late
w/fall pobits Pax- goraas dery.
of myuta Sincer R wolding
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break OPEC.
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forms paduce impax quota retain
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degantial w/ please onty two
their pricing
adelms his own them on cartel
bidding to gromer U.S. w/vil
GERALD R. FORD
auts fudustry- - Chapler- foress An delays
unit must valurty unless
ever
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delay as an
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bel pr day places to
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propare plianed he due
gradully favor outs mission
whate
exemptions but showed he less
VAW struggest - offore to fuie issulation
in inflatinary - drades
reduction and used for
tier price system anti thank
no duy of unt'l jus for multi
V. energy companies.
Nkilities - oppose werensed capit
yes - Dan for an air are unport futons
form rate fixing & facility
City + eleh an act
Oppoin accountance of not gae
Energy Produce
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all are, u windfass progits
smless plan bach. form
deny of not's form - offaces
excess tax an not x for.
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Industrial Consumers - no need h cut back
as fact as P pragram
valuety commission
Jamble - candlem an
Resentrol oldail
State Gov i Panel. oxpose deentme of oldail
+Cxtured allocation prof-
from
Magne - consention - affres deent
of old oil
Consumer - against P's rage an -Lu white
pl. too expecience - notarify
from guton n inputs, agent
duy of natl goo.
Transportation - RRS thank program well reg rets
increase for Rd.
water cancers - sume mercine
rates.
Tawlus - memore rates
anlmes - wont exception
Ppayam can "Gos m a you
fetrochemessel- want exem stion from exceise
tax - any they on fedstone
should he climated
GERALD 8. LLBRARY FORD
Peterson - desntral all and jraduary
forous plan bach proneur
" ensuration in
heat 6 cighting
Inhill - toomach in Wichened Reoring.
no price decombre of old are
gradually above two fin
price septem & return X Angle
delay price for all are - entald ail
pune use 12% on yr to selling
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
Date: 2.20.75
TO:
Chm. deppert
FROM: Max L. Friedersdorf
For Your Information
Please Handle
Please See Me
Comments, Please
FORD
2/20
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
Max:
Does Charlie have any feedback on
Dingell hearings?
Jack
RED TAG
FEB 17 1975
THE WHITE HOUSE
M
WASHINGTON
February 15, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JACK MARSH
MAX FRIEDERSDORF M
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR. CLg.
SUBJECT:
Format for Dingell Hearings on the
President's Energy Program
February 17, 1975
The format for the Dingell hearings on the President's Energy Program on
Monday, February 17, 1975, subject to last minute changes, will be as
follows:
(1)
The hearings will commence at 10:00 a. m., Monday, February 17, 1975
in Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building.
(2)
Chairman John Dingell will open the hearings with an opening statement
on the purpose of the hearings, etc.
(3)
The Administration witness panel consisting of Alan Greenspan, Frank
Zarb, and Tom Enders will each proceed with a statement on the
President's energy program, its implication and impacts of approxi-
mately ten (10) to fifteen (15) minutes duration and respond to questions
from Members as a panel.
(4)
Mr. Greenspan will be excused at approximately 12 o'clock noon to
12:30 p.m.
(5)
Mr. Zarb and Mr. Enders should be prepared to return after a luncheon
break to resume the hearings at 2 p.m.
(6)
Mr. Simon is expected to present his testimony upon arrival between
2 - 2:30 p.m. and respond to questions of Members along with Mr. Zarb
and Mr. Enders as a panel.
(7)
ABC-TV will provide television coverage of the hearings on Monday,
February 17th in addition to other media coverage.
2
(8)
I am advised that the Enders article "Agreement to Share Oil In New
Cutoff Defended" appearing in the Washington Post, Saturday, February
15th will provoke some questions from Members.
cc:
Secretary Morton
Secretary Simon
Asst. Sec. Tom Enders
Chairman Greenspan
Administrator Zarb
W.H. - Seidman
Cavanaugh
Loen
Schleede
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
February 24, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JOHN O. MARSH
THRU:
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
VERNON LOEN VL
FROM:
CHARLES LEPPERT, JR.
SUBJECT:
Report on Dingell Hearings on the
President's Energy Program
The information contained in this report is a subcommittee minority
staff appraisal of the hearings and are reported by the panels appearing.
Administration Panel
The general consensus was that the Administration did not present a
strong case for its energy programs. Specifically, the Administration
witnesses failed to establish a case or clear cut requirement for the
need to reduce oil imports by one million barrels per day by the end of
1975 and by two million barrels before the end of 1977. The numbers
put forth did not support a clear case to reduce imports and the national
security argument was not made well.
More information needs to be supplied to the subcommittee specifically
a chart requested by Representative Heinz showing the actions required
by the President's energy program for each different energy source and
its impact on the economy by energy source on a year by year basis.
Economist Panel
In general the panel of three (3) economists opposed the President's
energy program.
Mr. Perry opposed the duty on oil imports and an excise tax on domestic
oil. He favors a two-tier price system for domestic production. Opposes
a windfall profits tax but favors deregulation of natural gas, establishment
of import quotas and a bidding system with foreign oil producers as a
FORD
method of breaking up the OPEC cartel.
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Mr. Owens opposes the President's imposition of oil import tariffs
and rationing. He favors going to a import quota system gradually
while retaining the mandatory allocation program and a gradual de-
control of old oil with a phase out of the two-tier pricing system. The
Subcommittee has requested the Treasury Department for an analysis
of his testimony as to its tax aspects.
Mr. Adelman supported his own theory of requiring the OPEC cartel
to bid on providing the U.S. with oil.
Auto Industry Panel
Chrysler supported the amendments to the clean air act and stated
it could not voluntarily meet the standards without the delays requested
by the President.
General Motors supported the President's program in its "broad thrust"
and favored the decontrol of old oil.
Ford supports the President's reliance on the price mechanism and the
deregulation of old oil but states that the program should be implemented
on a gradual basis. Ford supported the clean air act amendments and
called for less stringent ones.
United Auto Workers Panel
Opposed the President's use of the price mechanism as inflationary.
Stated the drastic reductions of the President's program are not called
for under present economic conditions. Opposed the deregulation of
natural gas, favored a multi-tier pricing system and enforcement of
anti-trust laws against energy companies.
Utilities Panel
Opposed increase in oil import tariffs. Some supported oil import
quotas. Supported revision of rate structures, facility siting and
clean air act amendments. Opposed the decontrol of natural gas.
Energy Producers Panel
Supported generally the decontrol of old oil but opposed the windfall
profits tax without meaningful plowback provisions. Supported the
deregulation of natural gas.
-3-
Industrial Consumers Panel
Stated there was no need to cut back on consumption as rapidly as
proposed in the President's program. Stro ngly supported voluntary
conservation as still possible and citing the previous embargo. Un-
clear on the deregulation of natural gas and old oil.
State Government Panel
Opposed the President's program and the decontrol of old oil. Supported
an extension of the mandatory allocation program.
Local Government Panel
Favored conservation of energy on a voluntary basis and opposed the
decontrol of old oil.
Consumers Panel
Opposed the President's program as too expensive and inflationary.
Opposed the imposition of oil import tariffs and deregulation of natural
gas. Supported an import quota system on foreign oil.
Transportation Panel
The railroads, water carriers, truckers all stated that the President's
program will require rate increases. The Airlines stated their need
for an exemption because the President's program will cost the airlines
$900 million per year.
Petrochemical Users Panel
Stated a need for an exemption from the excise taxes and any tax on
feedstocks should be eliminated.
Panel on Policy Alternatives
Mr. Peter Peterson supported the decontrol of old oil gradually.
Supported the windfall profits tax if tied to plowback provisions.
Called for mandatory conservation for heating and lighting.
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Mr. John Sawhill stated that the President's program requires too
much in a weakened economy. Does not favor price decontrol of old
oil but a gradual abandonment of the two-tier price system to a single
ceiling price for all oil and let the old oil price rise 10 percent a year
to the ceiling.
A copy of the list of witnesses appearing before the Dingell Subcommittee
is attached.
The Dingell Subcommittee now plans to begin hearings and mark-up
of Title XIII, "Standby Energy Authorities" of the President's program
on March 3rd. Dingell will use his own bill H.R. 2991 as the mark-
up bill.
Attachment
PRESS RELEASE FROM THE OFFICE
IMMEDIATE RELEASE
OF CONGRESSMAN JOHN D. DINGELL,
D-MICHIGAN, 16TH DISTRICT
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 1975
WITNESS LIST SELECTED FOR DINGELL
ENERGY AND POWER HEARINGS
Congressman John D. Dingell, D-Michigan, Chairman of the House Energy
and Power Subcommittee of the Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee today
announced the witness and panel list for hearings in the Subcommittee, February 17-21.
The new Subcommittee is taking testimony on President Ford's energy
messages to Congress and the pressing energy problems facing the Nation and
affecting all sectors of the economy.
Witnesses include representatives of energy producing and consuming
industries, the Federal Government, consumer groups, and State and local governments.
"The Subcommittee, in these initial morning and afternoon hearings,
is seeking a complete overview of the energy supply, distribution and user demand
problems," stated Chairman Dingell.
He added, "Following the week of overview on energy matters, the
Subcommittee will make determinations as to which specific energy proposals,
legislation, alternatives and recommendations will receive our attention first."
The witnesss list is attached.
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WITNESS LIST
HEARINGS ON PRESIDENTIAL ENERGY PROGRAM
Monday, February 17 - Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
10 a.m.
Administration Witnesses:
Honorable William E. Simon, Secretary, Department of the Treasury
(tentative)
accompanied by --
Honorable Ed Fiedler, Assistant Secretary for Economic Policy
Honorable Frank Zarb, Administrator, Federal Energy Administration
Honorable Thomas Enders, Assistant Secretary for Economic Affairs,
Department of State
Honorable Alan Greenspan, Chairman, Council of Economic Advisors
Tuesday, February 18 - Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
2 p.m.
Panel of Economists:
George L. Perry, Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution
Charles R. Owens, Charles Owens and Associates
M. A. Adelman, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Thursday, February 20 - Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
10 a.m.
Auto Industry Panel:
Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, American Motors
United Auto Workers - Duane (Pat) Greathouse, Vice President
Utilities Panel:
Thomas J. Galligan, Jr., Boston Edison Company
W. Donham Crawford, President, Edison Electric Institute
Alex Radin, American Public Power Association
Ben Fuqua, Florida Power and Light Company
2 p.m.
Energy Producers Panel:
Frank Ikard, President, American Petroleum Institute
Bud Lawrence, Vice President, American Gas Association
Carl Bagge, President, National Coal Association
C. John Miller, President, Independent Petroleum Association
of America
Walter Rogers, President, Interstate Natural Gas Association
of America
Industrial Consumers Panel:
National Association of Manufacturers - witnesses to be
announced
Milton Stewart, National Small Business Association
- 2 -
Friday, February 21 - Room 2123 Rayburn House Office Building
10 a.m.
State Government Panel:
Honorable Thomas P. Salmon, Governor of the State of Vermont and
Chairman, National Governors Conference Committee on Natural
Resources and Environmental Management
Honorable Dolph Briscoe, Governor of the State of Texas
Local Government Panel:
Conference of Mayors - - witnesses to be announced
League of Cities - witnesses to be announced
National Association of Counties witnesses to be announced
Consumers Panel:
Garry DeLoss
Lee White, Consumer Federation of America
Cary DeLose, Public Interest Research Center
Group
Witness to be announced . Farm Bureau
Jim Cubie, Congress Watch
2 p.m.
Transportation Industry Panel:
Paul Ignatius, Air Transport Association
Carl Lyon, American Association of Railroads
Charles Webb, National Association of Motor Bus Operators
William A. Bresnahan, American Trucking Association
John Creedy, Water Transport Association
Bill Stokes, American Public Transit Association
Petrochemical Users Panel:
Witnesses to be announced
Panel on Policy Alternatives:
Honorable John Sawhill, Former Administrator, Federal Energy
Administration
Honorable Peter Peterson, Chairman of the Board, Lehman
Brothers, Former Secretary of Commerce
March 4, 1975
Dear Mr. Scheuer:
Here as requested is & copy of the slide
presentation that the President delivered
this morning for the Democratic freshmen.
It was nice visiting with you there and I hope
the meeting was deemed mutually beneficial.
With kind personal regards, I am
Sincerely yours,
Vernon C. Loes
Deputy Assistant
to the President
Heborable James Schouer
House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515
VCL:vh
dlvd. messenger
FORD is LIBRARY 074838
CRITERIA FOR THE ENERGY PROGRAM
1. CONSERVATION
2. DEVELOPMENT OF NEW SOURCES OF ENERGY
3. NATIONAL SECURITY
4. EQUITABLE APPLICATION OF PROGRAM ON A
NATIONWIDE BASIS
WHY AN ENERGY CRISIS?
1. INCREASED CONSUMPTION
2. DEPLETION OF RESOURCES
3. INCREASED IMPORTS
4. LOSS OF U.S. SURPLUS IN LATE 60's
5. GROWTH OF A CARTEL
RESULT: U.S. LOST CAPACITY TO SET
WORLD PRICE OF CRUDE.
OIL DOLLAR OUTFLOW
1970
--
3/1/2 BILLION
1974
--
25 BILLION
1977
--
32 BILLION
PRESENT U.S. DEPENDENCE FOREIGN
OIL -- -- 38%
PETROLEUM TRENDS
20
15
DOMESTIC CONSUMPTION
MMB/D
10
DOMESTIC PRODUCTION
5
1950
1955
1960
1965
1970
1974
ENCOURAGE ENERGY CONSERVATION
1. IMPORT FEES (BY PRESIDENTIAL ORDER)
2. EXCISE TAX AND IMPORT FEE ON OIL
(CONGRESSIONAL ACTION)
3. EXCISE TAX ON NATURAL GAS (37 CENTS
PER THOUSAND CUBIC FEET
4. PUBLIC EDUCATION
ENCOURAGE DOMESTIC ENERGY PRODUCTION
1. NEW NATURAL GAS DEREGULATION
2. CRUDE OIL PRICE DECONTROL
3. ELK HILLS NAVAL PETROLEUM
4. CONVERSION TO THE USE OF DOMESTIC COAL
5. ALASKA AND OFF-SHORE SOURCES
RETURN OF $30 BILLION
1. $ 16.5 BILLION INDIVIDUAL TAX CUTS
2. $2 BILLION TO NON-TAXPAYERS ($80 PAYMENT)
3. $0.5 BILLION HOME INSULATION TAX CREDIT
4. $6 BILLION CORPORATE TAX CUT (DROP RATE 48% TO 42%)
5. $2 BILLION TO STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT
6. $3 BILLION FEDERAL COST OFFSET
TOTAL: $30 BILLION
RATIONING
1. FIVE TO TEN YEAR PROGRAM
2. 30% LESS GAS FOR INDIVIDUALS (9 GALLONS
PER LICENSED DRIVER A WEEK)
3. 10% LESS FOR BUSINESS
4. BUREAUCRATIC AND COSTLY
5. NO DEVELOPMENT OF NEW SOURCES
YOUN DISBALL
TEES:
10TH DISTRICT, MICHIGAN
INTERSTATE AND FOREIGN
COMMERCE
WASHINGTON OFFICE:
CHAIRMAN, SUBCOMMITTEE ON
ROOM 2210, RAYBURN HOUSE OFFICE BLDG.
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20515
Congress of the United States
ENERGY AND POWER
SMALL BUSINESS
DISTRICT OFFICE:
CHAIRMAN, SUBCOMMITTEE ON
4917 SCHAEFER ROAD
house of Representatives
ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT
MERCHANT MARINE AND FISHERIES
DEARBORN, MICHIGAN 48126
Washington, D.C. 20515
MIGRATORY BIRD
CONSERVATION COMMISSION
March 5, 1975
IN BODY
HEARINGS BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND POWER
HONORABLE JOHN D. DINGELL
Mr. Speaker, in February the President's omnibus energy bill--
the Energy Independence Act of 1975, was assigned to Committee. Nine of
the thirteen separate titles of this comprehensive package were assigned
to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce.
In this Congress our Committee has formed a new Subcommittee on
Energy and Power in order to give focus to our decisionmaking responsibil-
ities on energy policy matters. As Chairman of that Subcommittee, I want
to take this opportunity to assure my colleagues in the House that I will
commit my full capacities to move expeditiously and bring legislative
recommendations to this Floor in the very near future.
To gain an understanding of the dimensions of our energy diffi-
culties and to give focus to our deliberations, the Subcommittee during
the week of February 17 held hearings on the President's energy proposals.
Our task was to identify the underlying goals of the program, to evaluate
the means selected to accomplish these goals, and to take the economic
measure of the policies to which this Congress has been asked to accede.
These matters were explored in thirty hours of intense review of the Pres.
ident's program concentrated in four days of hearings.
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We discovered in these proceedings that great controversy attends
the energy policy decisions made by the President. But perhaps the most
dominant point made by all witnesses is that energy policy is inextricably
linked with economic policy. Decisions in one area hold considerable im-
plications for the other.
The development of a rational, cohesive energy policy, therefore,
must necessarily be linked to tax policy and strategems for pulling this
nation out of its recessionary spiral.
In recognition of this interrelationship, my good finend and
colleague, Chairman Ullman of the Ways and Means Committee, and I propose
to commit our Committees to a parallel course of action for the purpose of
developing a cohesive and comprehensive energy program.
For my part, I intend to once again convene the Subcommittee on
Energy and Power beginning the week of March 10 for a series of concentrated
hearings to stretch over a two-week period. The Committee will invite
testimony from a number of balanced panels on the subject of Federal and
state allocation and price regulation of natural gas, coal, and petroleum
and its products. We will also examine various proposals to equip the
President and other agencies of the Federal government with emergency powers.
Our purpose will be to draft legislation which responds to our
most pressing and immediate needs. Although the focus of this legislation
will be in the near term, it will necessarily provide the dimension for
future long range energy policy decisionmaking.
Toward that end, I also intend to convene the Energy and Power
Subcommittee beginning the week of March 24 for the purpose of defining
the policy parameters of legislation to be drafted by the staff during the
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Easter Recess. In giving legislative form to the Subcommittee's policy
decisions, committee counsel will be instructed to work with the staff
of the Ways and Means Committee to assure to the maximum extent practicable
consistency with the tax policy decisions of that Committee. It will be
our purpose to bring legislation to the Floor by mid or late April to be
combined with the legislative recommendations of the Ways and Means Com-
mittee into a comprehensive energy package.
The Subcommittee at the earliest opportunity thereafter will
begin consideration of proposals related to the price regulation of elec-
tric utilities and siting of energy facilities--Titles VII and VIII of
the Administration's bill and related proposals. These hearings are
tentatively schedules to commence the week of April 28.
Let me make the record clear on another matter. Although the
Energy and Power Subcommittee will invite testimony on the subject of
price regulation of natural gas, I am not committed to an effort to bring
legislation to the Floor addressing the subject of natural gas price
deregulation. As my colleagues know, this is a matter of great controversy
and one I have for some time opposed. I will not burden this record with
my reasons for doing so in the past, but I believe them to be cogent and
still applicable.
I want to emphasize I have held many discussions with Chairman
Ullman of the Committee on Ways and Means. It is our intention to work
closely together as our two committees draft legislation within respective
jurisdictions on the subject of energy.
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