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The original documents are located in Box 9, folder "Congress - Members Trips Abroad"
of the John Marsh Files at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library.
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MEMORANDUM
AUG 8 1975
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
August 8, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
RUSS ROURKE
FROM:
BILL GULLEY
B.S.
Per your request, the attached is submitted:
TAB A
White House Missions (Congressmen)
TAB B
DoD Missions (Present travel of Congressmen)
TAB C
DoD Missions (Future travel of Congressmen)
3 Attachments
GENATE / FORD LIERARY
WHITE HOUSE MISSIONS
TRAVEL OF CONGRESSMEN
DATE(S)
MANIFEST
DESTINATION
1 August(drop)
Senator C. Percy
Shanghai, China
16 August(pick up)
Mrs. C. Percy
Senator J. Javits
Senator C. Pell
Mrs. C. Pell
Senator A. Stevenson
Mrs. A. Stevenson
Congressman P. Findley
Mrs. P. Findley
Congresswoman Margaret Heckler
Mr. J. Heckler
Congressman P. McCloskey
Dr. J. W. Lewis
Mr. M. Percy
Miss C. Javits
Mr. J. McCloskey
1-9 August
Congressman J. Murphy
Alaska
Congressman C. Dodd
Congressman M. Hughes
Mrs. M. Hughes
Congressman M. Russo
Congressman G. Miller
Congressman M. Fish
Congressman E. Forsythe
Congressman D. Young
Congressman J. Ambro
Mr. M. Kelsky
Mr. R. Harrison
Mr. C. Matthews
WHITE HOUSE MISSIONS
TRAVEL OF CONGRESSMEN (CONTINUED)
DATE(S)
MANIFEST
DESTINATION
1-9 August
Mr. S. Baffa
Alaska
(Continued)
Mr. P. Parkinson
Mr. P. Laughlin
Mr. A. Endres
Mr. D. Nicholls
Mr. D. Anthony
Mr. P. Snyder
Mr. R. Rigby
Mr. J. Berry
Mr. M. O'Connell
Mr. J. Morgan
Mr. J. Lawrence
Mr. M. Howell
Mr. z. MacMillion
Mr. R. McEdward
Mr. J. Willis
Mrs. J. Willis
Mr. M. Moffat
Congressman C. Higgins
Mr. J. Spear
Mr. J. Carlin
2-22 August
Senator M. Mansfield
Around the World Trip
Mrs. M. Mansfield
Mrs. S. Sahagian
Mr. F. Valed
Mr. M. Jones
Mr. C. Gellner (drop Lisbon)
Dr. T. Lowe
WHITE HOUSE MISSIONS
TRAVEL OF CONGRESSMEN (CONTINUED)
DATE(S)
MANIFEST
DESTINATION
2-22 August
Mr. L. Schwartz
Around the World Trip
(Continued)
Mr. M. Parris
17 August(drop)
Congressman John D. Anderson
Shanghai, China
*28 August(pick up) NO MANIFEST AVAILABLE AT THIS TIME
*Aircraft will stop in Hawaii on the return trip
PRESENT TRAVEL OF CONGRESSMEN
DATE(S)
MANIFEST
DESTINATION
1-13 August
Congressmán Eilberg
Far East
Congressman Flowers
Congressman Railsback
Congressman Carlos J. Moorhead
1-13 August
Congressman Wolff
Far East
Congressman Yatron
Congressman Solarz
Congressman Gilman
Congressman Guyer
Congressman de la Garza
Congressman John T. Myers
Congressman Simon
Congressman Mineta
Congressman Badillo
Congressman Clancy
2-13 August
Senator Bumpers
Middle East
Congressman Randall
Congressman Taylor
Congressman Corman
Congressman Eckhardt
Congressman Esch
Congressman Eshleman
Congressman Hammerschmidt
Congressman Regula
Congressman Goodling
2-13 August
Congressman Whitehurst
Europe
2-25 August
Senator Scott
Europe/Middle East
PRESENT TRAVEL OF CONGRESSMEN (CONTINUED)
DATE(S)
MANIFEST
DESTINATION
2-10 August
Congressman Dickinson
Key West, Florida
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba
3-16 August
Congressman St. Germain
Europe
Congressman Barrett
Congressman Long
Congressman Boggs
Congressman Minish
Congressman Hanley
Congressman Patterson
Congressman Wylie
3-24 August
Congressman Henderson
Europe
4-29 August
Speaker Albert
Russia/Romania/Yugoslavia/Spain
Congressman Melvin Price
Congressman Zablocki
Congressman Boland
Congressman Landrum
Congressman Brademas
Congressman Phillip Burton
Congressman Danielson
Congressman William Green
Congressman Yates
Congressman Foley
Congressman Bevill
Congressman Michel
Congressman Esch
Congressman Latta
Congressman Quillen
Congressman Carter
Congressman Archer
Congresswoman Fenwick
PRESENT TRAVEL OF CONGRESSMEN (CONTINUED)
DATE(S)
MANIFEST
DESTINATION
4-24 August
Congressman Flood
Europe
6-13 August
Congressman Clay
Panama/Venezuela/Puerto Rico
6-14 August
Senator McIntyre
Key West, Florida
FUTURE TRAVEL OF CONGRESSMEN
DATE(S)
MANIFEST
DESTINATION
8-9 August
Congressman Mahon
Newport News, VA
Congressman Brooks
9 August
Congressman Cochran
Pascagoula, MS
9-29 August
Congressman Talcott
Europe
10-19 August
Senator McClellan
Alaska
Senator Curtis
Senator Case
Senator Fong
Senator Stevens
Senator Bellmon
Senator Chiles
14-31 August
Congressman Addabbo
Pacific/Asia
Congressman Giaimo
Congressman Jack Edwards
Congressman Cederberg
Congressman Robinson
Congressman Conte
AHTHA
Congressman Miller
Congressman Coughlin
16-26 August
Congressman Charles H. Wilson
Honolulu/Guam/Mariana Islands
Congressman Mendel Davis
Delegate Won Pat
16 August
Senator Nunn
Newport News, VA
FUTURE TRAVEL OF CONGRESSMEN (CONTINUED)
DATE(S)
MANIFEST
DESTINATION
27 August-
Congressman Jarman
Europe
16 September
Congressman Hamilton
Congressman Derwinski
Senator Metcalf
Congressman Preyer
Congressman J. Herbert Burke
Congressman McClory
Senator Hartke
Senator Bayh
Congressman Pepper
Congressman Charles H. Wilson
Congressman Van Deerlin
Congressman Satterfield
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OCT 8 1975
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
October 8, 1975
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JACK MARSH
MAX FRIEDERSDORF
DICK CHENEY
FROM:
BOB WOLTHUIS RKW.
The other day I sent you a copy of the October 2 memo of a meeting between
Jack Maury, Manny Briskin, Col. Gunter, Bill Hildenbrand, Ken Davis
and Stan Kimmitt on the use of SAM aircraft. The Department of Defense
and Air Force have resolved the problem surrounding the availability of
aircraft but I see in this memo some real red flags. I wonder if we can
allow total control over the aircraft and who flies as advocated by Kimmitt
and Hildenbrand. They claim they are willing to take all of the heat generated
over Congressional travel. Under the Freedom of Information Act there
will be a great deal more.
I think we should look very hard at the things Kimmitt is trying to do because
if they have their way and start flying wives, children, and staff members
at their discretion, I can see some real problems being created for the
Executive Branch.
OFFICE OF THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
WASHINGTON. D.C.. 20301
2 October 1975
LEGISLATIVE
AFFAIRS
MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
SUBJECT: Support of Congressional Travel
Mr. Maury, Manny Briskin from General Counsel, and I met for one
and one-half hours on 1 October with Mr. J. S. Kimmit, Secretary for
the Majority Leader, Mr. William Hildenbrand, Secretary for the
Minority Leader, and Mr. Ken Davis, Administrative Assistant to
Senator Hugh Scott, concerning Defense support for Congressional
Travel.
There were seven major subjects of discussion:
Language of Public Law 207
Agreement was finally reached on following proposed changes to the
existing law: (changes underlined)
Funds made available in this or any other Act shall hereafter
be available for examination of estimates of appropriations in
the field, including transportation expenses related to inter-
parliamentary groups, and the use of such funds for such
purposes shall be subject only to regulations by the standing
committees concerned or the Speaker of the House, President
pro tempore of the Senate, or Majority and Minority Leaders,
Senate and House.
It was our understanding that no coordination on the above language
change had been accomplished beyond the three principals attending.
It will be Stan Kimmit's job to get the necessary legislation enacted
to change the existing law.
Dependent Accompaniment of Congressmen
There was strong feeling by the three principals that the Chairman of
a Committee, the Chairman of a delegation, or the senior Member
aboard an aircraft at the time of departure, should make the decision
who should ride on the aircraft. Kimmit and Hildenbrand in particular
were quite emotional in their belief that Defense should not question
the right of any individual's authority to ride a military aircraft once
such an aircraft is made available to a particular committee or
parliamentary group. They felt also that Defense should not require
a letter requesting authorization for including dependents, or another
member of the family, on the aircraft. Kimmit feels the Defense
regulation should be changed to accomodate the provision that once
the aircraft is made available, only the committee chairman, delega-
tion head or senior member aboard the aircraft should decide who
rides the aircraft.
(The Defense regulation now provides that dependents may accompany
only for reasons of official protocol or health care of a particular
individual and that a written request must be made to the Secretary
of Defense for such approval.)
Number of Congressmen Required to Justify Aircraft
Both Kimmit and Hildenbrand were quite vocal in their opinion that
numbers alone did not justify denial of an aircraft. It was abundantly
apparent that they did not agree with Defense's rule of thumb that at
least ten Members musttravel to justify the cost of an aircraft as
opposed to the cost of round-trip commercial tickets. The reason for
use of a military aircraft is to accomodate the travel of wives and
staff. Cost is not the issue. Neither is commercial airline competi-
tion. Although principals expressed their opinions, we did not indicate
we agreed with this. This is going to be a big problem.
Priorities of Assignment of Aircraft
Kimmit feels that officials of the Congressional Leadership out rank
Committee Chairmen and Delegation Chairmen, and therefore, even
if an aircraft previously has been assigned for a trip, a request by a
Member of the Leadership could bump this assignment. Kimmit did
concede that DoD oversight committees should be taken care of before
any other requests are filled.
Who Can Request Support
It was agreed that Standing Committee Chairmen would continue to
request support for Committee travel. Kimmit says he will make it
a policy that all other travel requests which extend beyond a Committee,
such as parliamentary travel, will come from the Leadership.
Reimbursement from Other Agencies
All three principals felt that reimbursement to the Department from
another agency was not a Hill problem, but rather an Executive one.
If, for instance, the Agriculture Committee requested an aircraft for
Committee travel, and the purpose of the trip lay more under the cogni-
zance of the Department of Agriculture than that of Defense, it then was
the job of Defense to work out reimbursement costs with Agriculture --
not the Hill's. However, they did not object to DoD pursuing the matter
of statutory language to that end with Guy McConnell.
Funding for Congressional Travel
Mr. Kimmit asked if Congress appropriated money specifically for
support of Congressional travel. Colonel Gunter explained that there
is no specific funding -- all support comes from the general Operations
and Maintenance funds appropriated to the Department.
-2-
Both Stan Kimmit and Bill Hildenbrand contend that once a delegation
has an aircraft, then it is theirs to do with as they choose. Manny
Briskin maintains that is not true -- the Defense Department retains
the responsibility for managing its assets, and for insuring that these
assets are used judiciously and in accordance with the regulations and
rules of the Department, not those of the Congress.
Underlying the entire discussion was the theme that the Congress giveth,
and the Congress could taketh away.
Virginia L. Gunter
Colonel
USAF
Director, Research
and Administration
FORD LIBRAN
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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
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OCT 7 1975
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
Date: Oct.7
TO:
Jack March
FROM: Robert K Wolthuis
For your information X X
Please handle
Other
Bob
GERALD
OFFICE OF THE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
WASHINGTON. D.C.. 20301
2 October 1975
LEGISLATIVE
AFFAIRS
MEMORANDUM FOR RECORD
SUBJECT: Support of Congressional Travel
Mr. Maury, Manny Briskin from General Counsel, and I met for one
and one-half hours on 1 October with Mr. J. S. Kimmit, Secretary for
the Majority Leader, Mr. William Hildenbrand, Secretary for the
Minority Leader, and Mr. Ken Davis, Administrative Assistant to
Senator Hugh Scott, concerning Defense support for Congressional
Travel.
There were seven major subjects of discussion:
Language of Public Law 207
Agreement was finally reached on following proposed changes to the
existing law: (changes underlined)
Funds made available in this or any other Act shall hereafter
be available for examination of estimates of appropriations in
the field, including transportation expenses related to inter-
parliamentary groups, and the use of such funds for such
purposes shall be subject only to regulations by the standing
committees concerned or the Speaker of the House, President
pro tempore of the Senate, or Majority and Minority Leaders,
Senate and House.
It was our understanding that no coordination on the above language
change had been accomplished beyond the three principals attending.
It will be Stan Kimmit's job to get the necessary legislation enacted
to change the existing law.
Dependent Accompaniment of Congressmen
There was strong feeling by the three principals that the Chairman of
a Committee, the Chairman of a delegation, or the senior Member
aboard an aircraft at the time of departure, should make the decision
who should ride on the aircraft. Kimmit and Hildenbrand in particular
were quite emotional in their belief that Defense should not question
the right of any individual's authority to ride a military aircraft once
such an aircraft is made available to a particular committee or
parliamentary group. They felt also that Defense should not require
a letter requesting authorization for including dependents, or another
member of the family, on the aircraft. Kimmit feels the Defense
regulation should be changed to accomodate the provision that once
the aircraft is made available, only the committee chairman, delega-
tion head or senior member aboard the aircraft should decide who
rides the aircraft.
(The Defense regulation now provides that dependents may accompany
only for reasons of official protocol or health care of a particular
individual - and that a written request must be made to the Secretary
of Defense for such approval.)
Number of Congressmen Required to Justify Aircraft
Both Kimmit and Hildenbrand were quite vocal in their opinion that
numbers alone did not justify denial of an aircraft. It was abundantly
apparent that they did not agree with Defense's rule of thumb that at
least ten Members must travel to justify the cost of an aircraft as
opposed to the cost of round-trip commercial tickets. The reason for
use of a military aircraft is to accomodate the travel of wives and
staff. Cost is not the issue. Neither is commercial airline competi-
tion. Although principals expressed their opinions, we did not indicate
we agreed with this. This is going to be a big problem.
Priorities of Assignment of Aircraft
Kimmit feels that officials of the Congressional Leadership out rank
Committee Chairmen and Delegation Chairmen, and therefore, even
if an aircraft previously has been assigned for a trip, a request by a
Member of the Leadership could bump this assignment. Kimmit did
concede that DoD oversight committees should be taken care of before
any other requests are filled.
Who Can Request Support
It was agreed that Standing Committee Chairmen would continue to
request support for Committee travel. Kimmit says he will make it
a policy that all other travel requests which extend beyond a Committee,
such as parliamentary travel, will come from the Leadership.
Reimbursement from Other Agencies
All three principals felt that reimbursement to the Department from
another agency was not a Hill problem, but rather an Executive one.
If, for instance, the Agriculture Committee requested an aircraft for
Committee travel, and the purpose of the trip lay more under the cogni-
zance of the Department of Agriculture than that of Defense, it then was
the job of Defense to work out reimbursement costs with Agriculture --
not the Hill's. However, they did not object to DoD pursuing the matter
of statutory language to that end with Guy McConnell.
Funding for Congressional Travel
Mr. Kimmit asked if Congress appropriated money specifically for
support of Congressional travel. Colonel Gunter explained that there
is no specific funding all support comes from the general Operations
and Maintenance funds appropriated to the Department.
-2-
Both Stan Kimmit and Bill Hildenbrand contend that once a delegation
has an aircraft, then it is theirs to do with as they choose. Manny
Briskin maintains that is not true -- the Defense Department retains
the responsibility for managing its assets, and for insuring that these
assets are used judiciously and in accordance with the regulations and
rules of the Department, not those of the Congress.
Underlying the entire discussion was the theme that the Congress giveth,
and the Congress could taketh away.
Virginia L. Gunter
Colonel
USAF
Director, Research
and Administration
AMERGIT
-3-
10-27-75
AIRLIE
J
FYI
FORD
LIBERTY
M
MURDOCK HEAD
The Washington Star
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30, 1975
Sen. William Scott's $15,787 Nightmare Trip to the Mideast
What's This Gaza Stuff? I Never Have Understood
OVERSEAS trips have
Scott put his foot in his
The bill for the plane ran
By Lisa Myers
Reluctantly visited a Moslem
been a favorite congression-
mouth on several occasions,
$8,212.80, while salaries,
Special to The Washington Star
mosque after complaining it wasn't
al pastime for years.
officials close to the trip
food and other expenses of
JAN 5 1976
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
January 2, 1976
MEMORANDUM FOR:
FROM:
MAX JACK FRIEDERSDORF MARSH mb
SUBJECT:
Congressional Travel
Per your request, I am attaching information we have
acquired on Congressional Travel.
DELIVERY R. FORD
NOV 6 1970
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
November 5, 1976
MEMORANDUM FOR:
JACK MARSH
THROUGH:
FROM:
TOM LOEFFLE
CHARLES LEPPERT, <<<. JR. Cag.
SUBJECT:
Rep. Barber Conable (R.-N.Y.)
Barber personally asked if there are plans for any
international trips in which Members of Congress
might participate (i.e. to the Middle East, China,
etc.). If there are any such trips being planned,
he would greatly appreciate being considered.
FORD is GERALD LIBRARY
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
November 13
Mr. Marsh:
The Taiwan Cong. group is:
Morgan, Lagomarsino,
Fountain and Gibbons.
Donna
NOV 10 1976
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON Date 11/10/76
TO:
JACK MARSH
FROM: Max L. Friedersdorf
For Your Information
Please Handle
Please See Me
Comments, Please
Other
per your request.
DATES
HAMES
ITINERARY
4-21 Nov
Rep Wolff, L.
Andrews = Marseille - Geneva -
" Randall, W.
Frankfurt - Munich - Kabul -
" Scheuer, J.
Cairo - Rose - Madrid - Andrews
n Collins, C.
" Cilman, B.
n Lehman, W.
5-24 Nov
Sen Ribicoff, A.
Andrews - Vienna - Telaviv -
" Cannon, H.
Awan - Cairo - Luxor - Cairo
0 Eagleton, I.
Tehran - London - Andrews
= Glenn, J.
" Ford, W.
n Culver, J.
" Dumpers, D.
" Baker, H.
" Laxalt, P.
11 Pearson, J.
" Griffin, R.
11 Bellmon, H.
5-23 Nov
Rep Morgan, T.
Andrews - Elmendorf - Tokyo -
# Lagomarsino, R.
Taiepi any Manila - Ball + Jakarta -
= Pountain, L.
Canberra in Christ Church - Ohakea *
= Cibbsons, S.
Pago Pago - Hickam - Travis -
Andrews
7-22 Nov
Rep Flowers, W.
Andrews - Frenkfurt - Cairo *
= Mann, J.
Luxor - Telaviv with Rairobi -
n Wiggins, C.
Mombasa - Rairobi - Madrid -
n Danielson, C.
San Pablo - Madrid . Andrews
" Badillo, H.
= Hyde, R.
= Fish, H.
11 Moorhead, C. (Calif.)
" Hutchinson, E.
" Railsback, T.
FORD is LIBRARY 938839
11 Hughes, W.
11 Ashbrook, J.
5-23 Nov
Sen Curtis, C.
Andrews - Offutt - Elmendorf -
" Bayh, B.
Tokyo - Shanghai - Bong Kong -
" Young, M.
Elmendorf - Luke. - Offutt Andrews
" Hollings, E.
11 Stevens, T.
= Johnston, J.
DATES
NAMES
ITINERARY
5-23 Nov
Rep Fascell, D.
Brussels - London
" Bingham, J.
Sen Pell, C.
FORD i 9ERV70 LIBRARY