Memorandum of Conversation with Secretary of State Dean Acheson, Ambassador of the Netherlands Eelco Van Kleffens, Netherlands Foreign Minister Dirk Stikker, Dean Rusk, and Frederick E. Nolting

004495 DEPARTMENT OF STATE 5/5 248 Memorandum of Conversation 259 DATE: Sept. 16,1949 SUBJECT: Matters Affecting Netherlands-U.S. - Relations, Particularly Indonesia corf PARTICIPANTS: Mr. Dirk U. Stikker, Nether lands Foreign Minister Mr. E. N. van Kleffens, Netherlands Ambassador The Secretary The Deputy Under Secretary, Mr. Dean Rusk ARCHIVES s. 'NATIONAL RECORDS AND Mr. Frederick B. Nolting, Jr., WE 6 of SERVICE" COPIES TO: S/S (3) American Embassy, The Hague (2) EUR (2) American Consulate, Batavia FE UNA G WE (FEN) -1492 The Netherlands Foreign Minister and the Ambassador called at their request. I opened the conversation by remarking that we would be obliged to give to the press an indication of the topics discussed; that I was always in favor of being accurate in such statements; and I indicated that we should therefore avoid sub jects which might have an adverse effect upon the negotiations now going on at The Hague in connection with Indonesia. Mr. Stikker touched upon a wide range of subjects, centering his remarks in the Indonesian problem. He stated that he was not pessimistic, that there had been a considerable measure of progress, but that he was worried by the possibility that the conference at The liague might drag on without conclusive results to the point where the Indonesian delegates would feel free to go home and there await a transfer of sovereignty without any definitive agreements on major issues. Mr. Stikker stated that the "crucial point" in the negotiations would, in his opinion, be reached next week. de handed me, and read, the attached verbal note, which outlines the Dut ch position on the major issues before the conference. He expressed appreciation of what Mr. Cochran has done so far and reaffirmed his backing of Mr. van Royen. ECLASSIFIED 1652, Sec. 3(E) and 5(D) or (B) suchet Dept. of State letter, 7-23-25 By NLT- HC : NARS Date 4.27.76