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12/13/53 - Reel 6, Track 2, Page 1 MR. ACHESON: They set up a group with Dana Wilgress [sounds like ] on it and various we people who were knowledgable in this field and I don't know who he had I don't know whether we he had anyone, or whether they working wi th them. underedving this on their own. were our MR. NITZE: No we had some people who cooperated with this effort. I think they are intelligence people and, both from the State Department and the military establishments, because it out coordinated NATO presentation. came as a MR. PERKINS: Well Chuck Spafford was our repr sentative in the group, but he got his information both from A1 Guenther's people and Washington military and State Department. MR. NITZE: That's right. MR. PERKINS: And we had a great deal to do with writing the report, as I remember it, but I've forgotten who actually did the detail work. MR. ACHESON: As I recall it, we went along with the reports pretty well. There was N NATIONAL A one part of it which I think we did not like and we had a substitute. We were going to say we would agree with this report except a certain ADMIN' t's another part of it and as to that the U.S. views are thus and so. I think they not of one of the meetings were quite anxi ous not have that happen. During the reached a compromise by which they reached a good part of ours and modified some of theirs and it was put together. I have afeeling that that was done in Rome. MR. HARRIMAN: In the TCC discussions this question, as I recall, didn't come up. There was acceptance by the ministers that NATO should develop substantial forces and the discussion, of course, surrounded what each country, what in the specific country we were analysing was able to contribute and--to the force, and you had definitely done a good job of that at Ottawa because there was no argument as to whether the NATO forces should or should not be expanded. They all agreed that they should be expanded and the discussion was what was possible and fair for each country to do.