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    "ocrText": "J.\nOkay.\nB.\nI said ministers last night. There are now 8,000\nministers, affiliate membership numbers somewhere\nnear 100,000 now.\nJ.\nWhere are the branches of the church outside of the\nU. S.? You mentioned there were 14 foreign countries.\nB.\nIn Europe there is England, Sweden, Italy in particular.\nI have a listof all of the ones in Italy, and then\nUganda in the Continent of Africa, and several of the\nnew emerging African nations the people have been named\nBishops and like this for their égo purposes, and\nthey're growing quite large. In fact the head of -\nthe Bishop of the Uganda Church is the Defense Minister\nthere of Uganda, I think that is very interesting.\nJ.\nWhat's his name?\nB.\nI can't pronounce any of those black names. You forget\nit. I've got it at home.\nJ.\nWill you send it back? Send us\nB.\nI'll send it to Mr. Alcock, yes.\nJ.\nNow do you know, for example, you just stated that the\nDefense Minister of Uganda is the head of the Universal\nLife Church there.\nB.\n10,000 members in his church inmUganda. He won't have\nhave it for long. It's more of. a political party than\nanything religious.\nJ.\nCan you say another country where possibly a Defense\nMinister or another member of the government is known\nto you would be involved?\nB.\nI think you're projecting a bit because I don't know\nthese people's positions. I know the Mayor of a town\nin the Country of Guatemala is the head of the Universal\nLife Church in his city, but he is not the head of the\nchurch in Guatemala. DR. HENSLEY is the head of the\nchurch in Guatemala.\nJ.\nDR. HENSLEY of Modesto?\nB.\nYes. He is the head of the church in Guatemala.\nJ.\nDoes he go to Guatemala to take part in it?\nB.\nNo, he's never been there. He just -- al through\ncorrespondence. There are several ministers in\nGuatemala, Honduras - British Honduras, Costa Rica,\nNicaragua; one of the Samosa brothers, I don't know\nwhichever one that is still alive, he wrote for our\npapers. He has been granted ministers and bishops\npapers with the Universal Life Church. Now, how he\nheard of it I do not know, and I understand that Samosa\n-2-"
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