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for meeting lasted about 30 minutes wi thout FERRIE actually telling WHALEN the specific details on his olan. After this meeting, WHALEN spent the night at an apartment provided by FERRIE. The aparthent, as WHALEN recalls, located near or on Carrollton (Avenue near its intersection was with Tulane Avenue. FERRIE also provided WHALEN with a 1953 black meet Galaxie Ford for his use while he was in town. WHALEN was to FERRIE and someone else at the Absinthe House the next night at about 11:45 P.M. WHALEN arrived at the Absinthe House Nirst the next night. Shortly thereafter, FERRIE and CDAY SHAW arrived and FERRIE introduced SHAW to WHALEN- At this time, SHAW was introduced as CLAY SHAW- At this meeting FERRIE did mostor the talking- WHALEN felt SHAW was sizing him up. During the course of the conversation FERRIE referred to SHAW as CLAY BERTRAND. SHAN became obviously irritated but said, nothing directly to FERRIB. Upon leaving the bar, all three drove to FERRIE' S apartment in the car being used by WHALEN- actually: Louisiana Avinus Failury As WHALEN now recalls, FERRIE's apartment was on Louisiana Boulevard and it was a structure with a screened front porch. They entered the rear of the first floor apartment and remained in that apartment the entire time. However, WHALEN recalls FERRIE going upstairs occasionally by the use of a stairway in the room next to thenone they were using. WHALEN also remembers PERRY RUSSO walking through the room on one occasion. However, he did not say anything to anyone in the room. WHALEN stated that the furniture in the apartment was old and inexpensive. Also, that the apartment was in a generally shabby condition. FERRIE finally got around to what he and SHAW wanted WHALEN to do for his money - they wanted someone killed. SHAW was to pay WHALEN ten thousand dollars before the job was done and another fifteen thousand dollars after its completion. Upon com- pletion of the job, SHAW was to provide WHALEN with a phony pass- port and {FERRIE) was to fly him to Mexico. SHAW stated that the man to be killed was going to be a witness against him for something that had been done some time in the past and that if this man was not killed he would out SHAW in the penitentiary for a long t ime. The intended victim's name was not mentioned at this time. WHALEN wanted no part of the deal, but he pretended to string along. Before < leaving, SHAW gave, WHALEN three hundred dollars spending money. WHALEN spent that night at a motel on Tulane Avenue near the Fontainebleau. He did not use his real name to register and cannot remember the one he used. The next day, FERRIE met WHALEN at /Moran's Restaurant at 10:30 in the morning. FERRIE suggested they take a ride and talk. while in the car FERRIE asked WHALEN if he had ever heard of Jim Garrison. WHALEN said he had not. FERRIE then told WHALEN that Garrison was the District Attorney and that this was the man SHAW and he wanted killed. WHALEN at this time told FERRIE he wanted absolutely nothing to do with the deal. FERRIE attempted to talk WHALEN into going throught with the plan, but WHALEN per- sisted that he would not have anything to do with it. They then -2-