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Rogers/Kissinger
6:20 pm
4/22270
R: What is Mel Laird talking about when he is talking about difficult signals?
K: He is bitching about he is fighting both you and me. You and I independent
of each other have urged the President to go easy on border infiltration. He is
urging the Presdent to keep going. He ways we are driving the VN crazy. I
think that was the right policy at the time we did it.
R: That was what Lon Nol said he wanted. He is trying to survive.
K: Even if we thought it was going to wind up this way, it's best to go through
a period of excessive restraint. He has been at me for three weeks. I didn't
bother you because you and I were pulling in the same direction.
R: When he has the military people with him he talks one way and later he
talks another.
K: On that one -- I had that turned off and when I was on vacation he got some
authorized again.
R: When he bitches it's because he does it. I have no
about taking
military action.
K: Any one who thinks you are soft is nuts.
R: I just want to be smart about how we do it.
K: Take everyone's
idea and do it one shot at a time. Then we don't know
what we are doing.
R: At this meeting today the President gets all our views.
K: On Laos your people stated their views and in the end you have carried out
even though they aren't in favor itx of it.
R: They even liked it after awhile.
K:
On Laos you called over and said we were going the same way.
R: We went through the thought processes and decisied that it was the best
decision. The same on Cambodia in the past. The President has thought
about it and we agreed and there have been no leaks. But this complaining
is