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TELCON - 4 - Hugh Sidey/Mr. Kissinger 12:10 p.m., September 22, 1972 K: What I think is killing him is that he's posing a threat to a lot of people but he can't even hold his own. S: That's right, that's right. K: In this respect he's doing worse than Goldwater. S: Oh, yeah; oh, yeah, much worse, much worse I think, yeah. I think it's really fundamental. I don't think any amount of registration or money or television will help because I think it's in the soul and the hearts of people, you know. K: Yeah. And that's why I think such things as Watergate doesn't catch on because to face it would mean that they would have to draw a conclusion they don't want to draw. S: Yeah, yeah. You're absolutely right. This guy, Yankaolovich (sp?), said that the scandals or so called scandals just haven't made any dent and that's because of this other. K: Amazing. S: Yeah. But it's fantastic. Okay, you might get another lease over there. K: (laughter) Well, the two don't necessarily go together. I mean, mine and his. S: (laughter) Okay, Henry. K: Right, Hu Bye. I'll see you next Friday. S: Yeah, Uh-humm. Be here for lunch. K: Right. Bye.

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