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TELECON Bob Toth/Secretary Kissinger June 4, 1974 5:38 pm T: You must be exhausted. K: Yes. T: I'm in the process of doing a pixxx piece, trying to put a little book bit of a human X flesh on this mission. I've read both Bernie Gwertzman and Marilyn Berger's pieces about the three times where you were ready to pack up and leave. But I was just wondering how it affected you personnally. I'm kind of intrigued by, we got a cable from our guy on the XXXX spot who mentioned the calling you Nixon's Jewboy and things like that. Do you really have a kind of personal involvement in this because of this alleges. K: I'd rather not talk about that. I think you can figure most of it out yourself. T: Yes. I gather, you know, there were real ups and downs on it but from what I understand of the cables you sent back that it was relatively matter of fact K: My cables just dexx described the negotiating situation each day. T: Without getting into being down or up or anything like that. K: Exact1v. You know, they occasionally gave an assessment of the prospect. T: I understand that the worse you ever xxxxxx complained was that there was shortsidedness on the part of both sides after the initial breakthrough when you started the quiveling process. I guess that was about the worse of it. Well, that's about all. I wasx hoping to be able to, I know you're very busy, to come by and talk to you about your personal impressions of thyx the whole thing, but K: Well, you know I'm unbelievably busy with the President's trip. T: Yes. Can you sum it up for me. I mean, it must have been the hardest negotiations you were every involved in, physically, as well as K: Well, it was the most difficult, it was the most emotional and, you know, it was from every point of view -- this is not for quotation. T: CK. K: The most complex and the most difficult negotiation.

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