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Ambassador Dobrynin/Secretary Kissinger
November 27, 1973
5:10 pm
K: On just one other thing. Where is that cable from Eilts, I am talking
to some associate here
the Israelis also have some points.. Do you
think we can negotiate this thing by the end of 75, the letter.
D: Laughter.
K: Israel's want, I'll tell you frenkly at some point we should just send
the letter and tell them to go to hell. They want, a minor point, the
United States and Soviet Union have now been informed by the parties
concerned of their readiness to enter negotiations among the parties
concerned under the auspices of the United States and USSR. They want
to say between the parties concerned.. something like that. They
want
to
pick up the phraseology of 338.
D: A minor point, but I don't know how the Arabas. but along the lines
of the resolution as for others, they don't-object.
K: They have a number of bilateral points with us. without prejudice
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possible participants at a subsequent stage by determination by the
conference.
D: Clearly stated in your letter
settled without changeing.
K: notieed Inow have a longer telegram from Ellts and he tells me
that Fqwzi made these points as suggested
D: I am writing a telegram to instruct to tell them up to now never any
question of auspices.
K: My strong view is we should not insist on co-chairmanship but insist
on auspices.
D: Exactly.
K: I. we don't insist on that all hell will break lose if it is under Waldheim.
D: Laughter, Iknow the Egyptians and you have never objected to my
knowledge.
K: Ifeel that if you agree we will tell our Ambassador in Cairo that it has
always been understood that the suspices would be the US and Sov et Union.
You will stick to that?
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