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3 (7/5 1.50 p.m.) and did some barrel rolls and other fancy turns, but the two outside loops were quite effective. Then they had some women pilots put on a show. And the women did very fine. They were in propeller type aircraft but they did very fine formation flying and some stunt flying. And I asked the Marshal one day -- they used women pilots in the war as combat pilots, you know. Actually combat pilots in fighter and bomber aircraft. And I asked him how were the women, were they good pilots in a combat way? And he said the women were excellent pilots and they had great courage. That doesn't mean that the men didn't have great courage, but he accentuated that the women did have great courage the women pilots in the war. Ricense as Then they flew by, after that phase, a series of aircraft -- there were three new ones -- four new ones shown. The three delta-wing fighters -- and the fourth one was a ground assault type aircraft like our C123, and it was powered with turbo-prop type of engines. Looked like a pretty good airplane. It was misting and raining and the ceiling was fairly low at times. And so the show probably would have been a little more extensive, had the weather been really clear. But we saw enough to see they are very skillful pilots. Good pilots. Then they demonstrated their parachute work, which was very fine. They expected to finish this up with a great big parachute drop from about 15 airplanes. They had to call this off, the big drop, because the wind picked up to about 20 knots and it certainly would have been foolish to jump that many men with the wind like that. But the first people that came over I would say about 50 different parachute drops, and demonstrated their techniques; and we did see that. They brought the helicopters in as part of this show. I think there were -- they brought in 35 helicopters in close formation, setting them all down as one airplane on the field and took their men out of those and their equipment along with them. They brought four of the great big helicopters, just like our Piasecki that has two engines. And their flying in that was very good. We saw complete, from start to finish, the construction of a jet engine -- was an engine that they got from the British back -- the Nene engine. Not a modern engine by any shape or manner of means, but we could see how the factory operated, what the techniques were, and so on, and how they carried on their production. And the end product was very good. And then we saw the plant that makes the IL-14. That is a new propeller transport aircraft, somewhere between our DC-3 and the Convair of ours. That is the airplane we flew to Stalingrad in. And we went to their engineering school and was very much impressed with that. A fine school. They train the boys on the technology and engineering. They go to that school five years, and then they go back to the service. And we saw their air academy. That is where -- different from the technical phase. They train them in another school -- the tactics and technique of combat -- up to a certain age. Not a senior school by any means. but boys about the age of 24 to 30, and they seem to know what they are doing in both these schools. Have a good course. They balance the practical with the theory pretty well.

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This is an interview with General Twining, Air Force Chief of Staff, about a United States Air Force delegation visit to the Soviet Union.

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