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The original documents are located in Box 52, folder "1975/10/03 - Congressmen Teague and Mosher" of the James M. Cannon Files at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library. Copyright Notice The copyright law of the United States (Title 17, United States Code) governs the making of photocopies or other reproductions of copyrighted material. Gerald Ford donated to the United States of America his copyrights in all of his unpublished writings in National Archives collections. Works prepared by U.S. Government employees as part of their official duties are in the public domain. The copyrights to materials written by other individuals or organizations are presumed to remain with them. If you think any of the information displayed in the PDF is subject to a valid copyright claim, please contact the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library. Digitized from Box 52 of the James M. Cannon Files at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library $ wo burnes is MEETING WITH CONGRESSMEN TEAGUE AND MOSHER RE: Office of Science and Technology Friday, October 3, 1975 11:30 (Teague) 2368 RHC 12:15 (Mosher) 2311 got ROOB & or on 0 Ash To wh Tuger my countro on form a your and 5th be Hetder why cooned NC you - to Hulm He could you my GERALD R. FORD woquest , t. LIBRARY E 1 counts This m wr V 6 - Belling Soun the Y - Y by need at wu- That are pers P Betun \ mulus out Ham vale Come Th agreement Boris of something H was on GERALD FORD LIBRARY 9/29/75 DRAFT COMMENTS ON H.R. 9058 (Sept. 16 Committee Print) Source House Sci. Tech. Title/ of Prop. Ctte. Staff Section Page Subject/Problem Proposed Change Change Conclusion I. NATIONAL SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY POLICY 102 (b) 6 Role of Executive Office of the Pres. (EOP) Reword Sec. 102 (b) (1) Goldwin Do not want to (1) Problem: Overstates or perhaps change; feel misstates the role that is appropriate strongly that for the EOP, particularly with respect OSTP role is to assisting agencies with "mobilizing already quali resources" and "securing funding". fied. Problem: The word "central" before Eliminate word central " policy planning turns out to be Won't change. offensive in conotation. It doesn't Have already appear necessary to the section since toned down the second sentence makes clear that emphasis on the focus is on the EOP central role 102 (c) (3) 10 Importance of stability of S&T institu- Delete the word "paramount" or Understand Prob- ions: substitute an adjective that O'Neil lem; have pres- "Paramount", or similar words modifying reflects the need for balance, sure on them to the importance of stability of such as "relative", "high". keep; will institutions, on line 15, really aren't change to correct. "singular", with Stability is important but shouldn't intent of meanig take precedence over quality of "separate" research or timliness. Balance among rather than these concepts should be the objective. highest priority Reference to education in needed discip- lines: (line 19) 'Neil Won't change. Wording suggests prejudice in favor of Slight rewording to focus Cong. Mosher & education in disciplines when the real emphasis on the end objective. Esch insist on objective- of scientific knowledge-- proper context. DERALD FORD LIBRASHI some emphasis a would cover educational needs in their science educ. (This is part of long-standing dif. of opinion- OMB & Ctte. DRAFT 9/29/75 COMMENTS ON H.R. 9058 (Sept. 16 Committee Print) 2. Source of House Sci & Tech. theld/ Proposed Ctte. Staff loction Page Subject/Problem Proposed Change Change Conclusion I (con'd) 102 (c) 11 Antitrust (5) Problem: The words "to compel competitive Merely delete the clause. Goldwin Accepted. Change economic pluralism" are objectionable to will be made some, in part because they may not by Committee Staff reflect fully and accurately the purposes of antitrust regulation. Words aren't necessary to paragraph, and could even have the effect of limiting it. II OFFICE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY POLICY 204 (b) 14 Role of OSTP in Budget formulation. Merely delete "and the agencies" O'Neill Can't accept. Under (4) Problem: The words "and the agencies" strong pressure to on line 6 suggests that OSTP should increase role of take on a promotional role--which OSTP in the most now seem to agree is inappropriate Budget process. for an EOP office. Role in Budget formulation is reflected fully without these words. (Fact is that there is an : excellent market in the EOP for good sound S&T advice, including advice in, the budget formulation stage. This market plus the competence that OSTP can develop will be the determinants of impact!) GERALD FORD LIBRARY DRAFT 9/29/75 COMMENTS ON H.R. 9058 (Sept. 16 Committee Print) 3. Source of House Sci & Tech Proposed Ctte. Staff Page Subiect/Problem Proposed Change Change Conclusion II (Con'd) 204 (b) Criteria for determining S&T activities (6) 14- for Federal support: 15 Problem: Current wording does not Reword somewhat to tie S&T clearly Accepted. Change O'Neill (inadvertantly) overcome a problem noted to overall efforts to achieve will be made as in earlier version; i.e., the suggestion national objectives. a clarifying Amendment intro. that S&T activities may be ends in themselves rather than means to achieve by Chairman in national objectives. Ctte. mark-up. 204 (b) (5) 14 Review of statutes and regulations affecting R&D: . Problems: Reword somewhat to state purpose Schleede Accepted. As above - Purpose of review isn't stated. and assure that Federal actions - As now stated, is somewhat too narrow in covering non-Federal sectors that Federal actions (e.g., regulations) are within scope of review. affecting other sectors' activities are not clearly covered. 204 (b) (9) & 15 Reports and recommendations. For organiz- Slight change in wording. Buchen Accepted. Change (10) ational purity, it should be clear that will be made by reports from OSTP go first to the President Ctte. Staff. who would transmit to the Congress 206 16 Question has been raised as to the meaning ? (Change if necessary to make Buchen This has been checkd of words on lines 20-22 beginning with it correct. Sure no policy FORD out by OMB and "without". They were in Administration issue is involved.) bill and we are checking the meaning. GERALD LIBRARY by House Legis. Council & found OK. (Relates to contract authority) as is. DRAFT 9/29/75 4. COMMENTS ON M.R. 9058 (Sept. 16 Committee Print) Source of House Sci & Tech Title/ Proposed Ctte. Staff Scotion Page Subject/Problem Proposed Change Change Conclusion II (con'd) 208 (b) 17 Reorganization Plan Buchen Accepted. Change Problem: As now worded, seems to Merely eliminate words "provision will be made by provide an "item veto" in reorganization contained in a" on line 23, page 17. Ctte. staff. plan provisions which is inconsistent with the concept of reorganization plans and with apparent intent of the rest of the section. Very bad precedent. III FEDERAL S&T SURVEY COMMITTEE 301 (a) (1) 19 Absolute deadline on appointment of Buchen Committee: Can't accept since there would be no Absolute deadlines can be very Remove 90 day deadline. deadline and there difficult to meet and still get good is some fear in people. Prefer adding some Ctte. that Survey flexibility. never would begin. 301 (b) 20 Appointment of Survey Committee personnel Schleede Can't accept. Point (1) Problem: If personnel are subject to Make parrallel with Sec. 205&206 out that wording all civil service laws, there is really permits a way almost certainly to be an unnecessary (suggested wording in the draft out. Put in here delay--particularly in getting the we've marked up is inartful. specifically in kind of people needed for this needs better fix.) attempt to molify activity. (Cf. with sec. 205 on OSTP) House PO & Civil Svs. Ctte--and to GERALD FORD LIBRARY preserve excepted status for OSTP. THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 1, 1975 JMC: Either you or the Vice President should call Cong. Teaque and Mosher regarding the attached. If you want the Vice President to do this, Dick Allison suggests tomorrow morning as the best time for him to place the call. I'll suggest that the the V.P. make the call (Memo attached) I will make the call. P B.FORD is LIBRAR 0779 THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON October 1, 1975 MEMORANDUM FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT FROM : JIM CANNON SUBJECT : Legislation to Create the Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) With regard to the above, I recommend that you call Congressman Teague and Mosher, preferably tomorrow morning, Thursday, October 2, 1975, and make the following points: -- The bill, while different from the one submitted by the President on June 6, looks like a good bill and the Administration can support it actively if it emerges from the Committee and House essentially as it now stands. -- We hope they can head off major changes that might give problems and lead to delays. -- Administration staff has worked closely with Phil Yeager on some changes to the bill (HR 9058) originally introduced by Teague and Mosher on July 30. Both Phil Yeager and Bill Wells of the staff have been very helpful and cooperative. Changes from the July 30 version have been worked out which solve some relatively minor problems while retaining fully the basic features of the bill. THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON ACTION September 30, 1975 MEMORANDUM FOR: JIM CANNON FROM: GLEN SCHLEEDE SUBJECT: LEGISLATION TO CREATE THE OFFICE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY POLICY (OSTP) During a conversation yesterday with Phil Yeager (Counsel of the House Science and Technology Committee, Chaired by Congressman Teague) he asked that you or the Vice President call Congressman Teague and Congressman Mosher and inform them that the latest version of the Teague- Mosher bill is acceptable to the Administration and would be supported if reported by the Committee and passed by the House in its present form. He would like the calls to occur as soon as possible but not later than October 7. The Committee meets to consider the bill on October 8. Congressmen Teague and Mosher want the call (a) as a clear signal of Administration support, and (b) to strengthen their hands against amendments that they expect to be offered in the Committee and perhaps on the floor. A full updated report on the status and outlook for the bill and a description and evaluation of its contents is attached at Tab A. A review of the actions taken within the Administration and with the Committee staff -- which I believe justify the recommendations that follow -- is included at Tab B. The latest bill (which doesn't reflect a few minor changes obtained yesterday) is at Tab C. RECOMMENDATIONS 1. The bill has been reviewed thoroughly with the senior staff (summarized below), but has not been submitted to the President for formal approval. I recommend that - 2 - you seek the President's oral approval during your next review session with him. 2. I also recommend that you or the Vice President call both Teague and Mosher by October 7, preferably making the following points: The bill, while different from the one submitted by the President on June 6, looks like a good bill and the Administration can support it actively if it emerges from the Committee and House essentially as it now stands. We hope they can head off major changes that might give problems and lead to delays. Administration staff has worked closely with Phil Yeager on some changes to the bill (HR 9058) originally introduced by Teague and Mosher on July 30. Both Phil Yeager and Bill Wells of the staff have been very helpful and cooperative. Changes from the July 30 version have been worked out which solve some relatively minor problems while retaining fully the basic features of the bill. CONGRESSIONAL RELATIONS STAFF I haven't briefed Max Friedersdorf or his staff on the latest developments summarized above. You may want to consider giving him a copy of this memo or otherwise bringing him up to date. Attachment P.S. Phil Yeager just called and asked that, assuming we can support the bill, we also get the word to other members of the Committee, particularly Congressmen Wydler and Fuqua, and hopefully to all Minority members of the Committee who are anxious to know the Administration's position. TAB A TAB A 9/30/75 STATUS AND EVALUATION OF THE LEGISLATION TO CREATE AN OFFICE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY POLICY IN THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT STATUS AND OUTLOOK House. A revised version of a bill (HR 9058) introduced in the House by Congressman Teague and Mosher on July 30, 1975 will be marked up by the House Science and Technology Committee on October 8, 1975. The bill is likely to be reported to and passed by the full House during the week of October 20. Senate. Three Committees involved. Committees and the key players are: Aeronautics and Space (Moss); Commerce (Tunney) and Labor & Welfare (Kennedy). Senator Moss has been pushing for acceptance of the President's bill and for prompt action. House bill is acceptable to him as it now stands. Latest assessment is that other players generally accept the Teague-Mosher bill but (a) may want to make a few changes and additions, (b) want some public exposure, and (c) don't want to be accused of holding up the bill. Current agreement among Committees is that each key player will hold one day of hearings with Kennedy (October 28) and Tunney (not yet set) to hear witnesses from scientific community and Moss to hear the Adminis- tration (Guy Stever) on November 14. Final Action is still possible before Christmas. Bill should provide the basis for a good bipartisan signing ceremony. THE TEAGUE-MOSHER BILL (HR. 9058) Teague and Mosher introduced the President's bill (which was sent up on June 26) to create an Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), but shortly thereafter -- July 30 -- introduced a new bill (HR 9058) which the Committee will consider instead of the President's bill. - 2 - After a series of staff level discussions, the House Committee staff has revised the bill, obtained the approval of Teague and Mosher, and is now reviewing it with other members of the Committee, with the objective of having most if not all problems ironed out before October 8. The latest available version of HR 9058 is attached. HR 9058 has three principal titles: Title I - declares a national policy on science and technology. Title II - creates an Office of Science and Technology Policy as proposed by the President, with three exceptions: The Director would be subject to Senate confirmation. The President would have the discretion of appointing up to four assistant directors, to be compensated at rates not to exceed Level III. (This provision is designed to allow this President and his successors to structure the Office as they prefer; e.g., a Director and Deputy; a 3 or 5-man Council; etc. This should head off the fight that was expected over whether an office or council should be created.) The functions of the Office are spelled out in more detail. Title III - establishes in the Executive Office of the President -- either as a part of the OSTP or in such other manner as the President may direct -- a Federal Science and Technology Survey Committee, with staff. The Committee is to consist of from 5 to 12 members, appointed by the President within 90 days after confirmation of the OSTP Director. The OSTP Director shall be chairman of the Committee. Members may be from within or outside the Government. The Committee is to survey and examine the overall context of Federal science and technology effort, including missions, goals, funding, organization, etc., and submit a report of its findings and conclusions within 24 months. - 3 - The President shall transmit the report to the Congress with comments and recommendations within 60 days thereafter. EVALUATION Overall: The bill submitted by the President would be preferable, but the latest version (attached) is a good compromise between the President's bill and other bills that have been considered in the House. Title I - The science and technology policy statement is a modified version of one introduced earlier by Teague and Mosher (HR 4461). The whole idea of legis- lating an S&T policy is questionable, but the statement is rather harmless. The Committee will insist on having a policy statement. Title II - The Congress will insist on confirmation for the Director. The discretionary authority for up to four assistant directors is a clever compromise. As now written, the statement of OSTP functions should be acceptable but there are pressures to make them more specific -- particularly with respect to the OSTP role in advising on scientific and technical aspects of the Budget. Title III - The bill would be better without the requirement for a Survey Committee but the House Committee is unlikely to go for its deletion. The Committee idea is being used by Teague and Mosher to head off a wide variety of proposals from other members of the Committee -- proposals which range from making the OSTP functions broader to the creation of a Department of Science and Technology and the creation of a statutory interagency S&T committee. TAB B TAB B 9/30/75 DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THE ADMINISTRATION AND WITH TEAGUE COMMITTEE STAFF Initial Review and Discussions. In mid-August, I obtained high level staff views and comments on the July 30 version of the Teague-Mosher bill (HR 9058) from OMB, NSC, and Office of the White House Counsel and also had the benefit of suggestions from Guy Stever, Hans Mark, Si Ramo, Bill Baker and Dick Allison. Views and suggestions were generally consistent. After compiling views and developing specific suggestions for word changes, I met with Phil Yeager and Bill Wells of the Committee staff. Yeager and Wells accepted and subsequently incorporated in a September 16 revision of HR 9058 almost every change we proposed. The most important changes were: 1. Revising the statement of science and technology policy to: make clear that science and technology are views as means to achieve national objectives -- rather than ends in themselves. remove the concept that there should be a centrally developed strategy or centralized management of Federal (or national) R&D. Again attention was focused on end objectives. 2. Revising the provisions on the OSTP to: remove the requirement for Senate confirmation for OSTP Assistant Directors. clarify the OSTP role in the Budget formulation and justification process -- to avoid creating (a) an OMB-OSTP rift and (b) another place where agencies have to justify their budgets. emphasized scientific and technical advice to the President rather than central strategizing and management of Federal R&D activities. 3. Revising the section creating a Science and Technology Survey Committee to: give the President the discretion to organize the Survey Committee as a part of OSTP or separately. make the Director of OSTP the Chairman of the Survey Committee. - 2 - make scope of survey more flexible. give 24 rather than 15 months for the survey. have Committee report to the President who would transmit report to Congress with his recommenda- tions -- rather than having Committee report directly to the Congress and the President. Senior Staff Review On September 22, you circulated a Committee Staff Revision of the bill to Senior Staff for review and comment. The reactions were as follows: Buchen (Lazarus) - Could accept bill but would like some changes. Friedersdorf - Recommend accepting revised bill. Hartmann - Accept revised bill. Lynn (O'Neill) - Could accept bill but would like some changes. Marsh - No response Rumsfeld - Cheney indicated no specific comments. Scowcroft - Accept revised bill. Seidman - No problems with bill. Goldwin - Would like to see some word changes. My view is that the changes suggested by O'Neill, Lazarus and Goldwin were useful but not critical. I summarized them and made one more run at the Committee staff on September 29. The comments and results are summarized in the attachment. Briefly, of the 14 changes suggested: 4 were accepted and will be fixed by Committee staff and technical changes in language. 2 were accepted and will be introduced as clarifying amendments by the Chairman. 1 (by Lazarus) was withdrawn when another provision of the bill solving the problem was pointed out. 1 technical problem was reviewed with lawyers and found not to be a problem. 6 won't be accepted -- largely because of counter- vailing pressures from Committee members. - 3 - Summary Review I think we've: obtained all the critical changes (and a fair number of the cosmetic ones) so that OSTP can become a useful addition to the OSTP. bent over backwards to consider views of others in the EOP thus, hopefully, have helped pave the way for acceptance of the new organization by those who haven't been enthusiastic about creation of OSTP. TAB C Does Not include Changes stallon cHe 9/29. [COMMITTEE PRINT] H.R. 9058 WITH SUGGESTED REVISIONS September 16, 1975 Showing matter to be deleted in linetype and matter to be inserted in italic 94TH CONGRESS 1ST SESSION H. R. 9058 IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES JULY 30, 1975 Mr. TEAGUE (for himself and Mr. MOSHER) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Science and Technology [Omit the part struck through and insert the part printed in italic] A BILL To establish a science and technology policy for the United States, to provide for scientific and technological advice and assistance to the President, to provide a comprehensive survey of ways and means for improving the Federal effort in scientific research and information handling, and in the use thereof, to amend the National Science Foundation Act of 1950, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa- 2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 3 That this Act may be cited as the "National Science and 4 Technology Policy and Organization Act of 1975". J.59-097-0-1 2 3 1 TITLE I-NATIONAL SCIENCE AND 1 dignity, and well-being by enlarging the contributions 2 TECHNOLOGY POLICY 2 of American scientists and engineers to the knowledge 3 FINDINGS 3 of man and his universe, by making discoveries of basic 4 SEC. 101. (a) The Congress, recognizing the profound 4 science widely available at home and abroad, and by 5 impact of science and technology on society, and the inter- 5 maximizing the dissemination of utilizing technology in 6 relations of scientific, technological, economic, social, polit- 6 support of United States national and foreign policy 7 ical, and institutional factors, hereby finds and declares— 7 goals; 8 (1) that the general welfare, the security, the eco- 8 (2) increasing the efficient use of essential ma- 9 nomic growth and stability of the Nation, the conserva- 9 terials and products, and generally contributing to eco- 10 tion and efficient utilization of its natural and human 10 nomic opportunity, stability, and appropriate growth; 11 resources, and the effective functioning of government 11 (3) assuring adequacy of food and energy for the 12 and society require vigorous, perceptive support and 12 Nation's needs; 13 employment of science and technology in achieving na- 13 (4) contributing to the national security; 14 tional objectives; and 14 (5) improving the Nation's health and medical 15 (2) that the many large and complex scientific 15 care; and 16 factors which increasingly influence the course of national 16 (6) preserving, fostering, and restoring a healthful 17 and international events require appropriate provision 17 and esthetic natural environment, and developing im- 18 to incorporate scientific and technological knowledge in 18 proved housing and urban and rural systems. 19 the national decisionmaking process. 19 DECLARATION OF POLICY 20 (b) As a consequence, the Congress finds and declares 20 Principles 21 that the Nation's goals for science and technology should 21 SEC. 102. (a) In view of the foregoing, the Congress 22 include contribute without being limited to the following 22 declares that the United States shall adhere to a national 23 National goals: 23 policy for science and technology which includes the follow- 24 (1) fostering world leadership in the quest for 24 ing principles: 25 international peace and progress toward human freedom, 25 (1) the continuing development and implemen- 4 5 1 tation of a national strategy strategies for determining 1 base for science and technology in the United States, 2 and achieving the appropriate scope, level, direction, 2 including: (A) strong participation of and cooperative 3 and extent of scientific and technological efforts based 3 relationships with State and local governments and the 4 upon a continuous appraisal of the role for science and 4 private sector, (B) the maintenance and strengthening 5 technology in achieving goals and formulating policies 5 of diversified scientific and technological capabilities in 6 of the United States, and reflecting the views of States, 6 government, industry, and the universities, and the 7 municipalities, and representative public groups; 7 encouragement of independent initiatives based on such 8 (2) the enlistment of science and technology to 8 capabilities together with elimination of needless bar- 9 foster a healthy economy in which the directions of 9 riers to scientific and technological innovation, (C) 10 growth and innovation are compatible with the prudent 10 effective management and dissemination of scientific and 11 and frugal use of resources and with the preservation 11 technological information, (D) establishment of es- 12 of a benign environment; 12 sential technical and industrial standards and test 13 (3) the conduct of science and technology opera- 13 methods, and (E) promotion of increased public under- 14 tions SO as to serve domestic needs while concurrently 14 standing of science and technology; and 15 promoting foreign policy objectives, and, through the 15 (6) the recognition that, as changing circumstances 16 allocation of research and development resources, to 16 require periodic revision and adaptation of title I of this 17 maintain & proper ratio balance in the development and 17 Act, the Federal Government is responsible for identify- 18 export of technology between aid to lagging foreign econ- 18 ing and interpreting the changes in those circumstances 19 omies and attainment of an equitable balance in world 19 as they occur, and for effecting subsequent changes in 20 trade markets; 20 title I as appropriate. 21 (4) the recruitment, education, training, and re- 21 Implementation 22 training, and beneficial use of adequate numbers of scien- 22 (b) To implement the policy enunciated in subsection 23 tists, engineers, and technologists, and insuring their full 23 (a) of this section, the Congress declares that: 24 utilization; technologists; 24 (1) There should be a central policy planning ele- 25 (5) the development and maintenance of a solid 25 ment in the executive branch to guide executive agencies 7 6 1 in mobilizing resources for essential science and tech- 1 President so that the Chief Executive may have available 2 nology programs, to present to the Congress the justi- 2 independent, expert judgment and assistance on policy 3 fication of such programs, to aid in securing appropriate 3 matters which require accurate assessments of the com- 4 funding for those programs, and to review systematically 4 plex scientific and technological features involved. 5 Federal science policy and programs and to recom- 5 (2) It is a responsibility of the Federal Govern- 6 mend legislative amendment thereof when needed. A 6 ment to insure promote prompt, effective, reliable, and 7 major component of this structure should be an advisory 7 systematic transfer of science and technology informa- 8 mechanism within the Executive Office of the President 8 tion by such appropriate methods as: the funding of 9 so that the Chief Executive may have available inde- 9 technical evaluation centers, cost sharing of information 10 pendent, expert judgment and assistance on policy 10 dissemination programs conducted by such nongovern- 11 matters which require accurate assessments of the com- 11 mental organizations as industrial groups and technical 12 plex scientific and technological features involved. 12 societies, and or assistance in the publication of properly 13 (1) The Federal Government should maintain cen- 13 certified science scientific and technology technological 14 tral policy planning elements in the executive branch 14 information. In particular, it is recognized as a respon- 15 which assist Federal agencies in (A) identifying public 15 sibility of the Federal Government not only to coordinate 16 problems and objectives, (B) mobilizing scientific and 16 and unify its own science and technology information 17 technological resources for essential national programs, 17 systems, but to facilitate the close coupling of institu- 18 (C) securing appropriate funding for programs so iden- 18 tional scientific research with commercial application 19 tified, (D) anticipating future concerns to which science 19 of the useful findings of science. 20 and technology can contribute and devising strategies for 20 (3) It is further an appropriate Federal function 21 the conduct of science and technology for such purposes, 21 to support science and technology efforts which are in- 22 (E) reviewing systematically Federal science policy and 22 tended expected to provide results beneficial to the pub- 23 programs and recommending legislative amendment 23 lic but which the private sector may be unwilling or 24 thereof when needed. Such elements should include an 24 unable to support. 25 advisory mechanism within the Executive Office of the 25 (4) Science and technology activities which may be 8 9 1 properly supported exclusively by the Federal Govern- 1 grams should be centrally reviewed to assure rational 2 ment should be distinguished from those in which inter- 2 allocation of funds and resources, to identify public prob- 3 ests are shared with State and local governments and 3 lems and objectives, to anticipate future concerns to 4 the private sector. Cooperative Among these entities, co- 4 which science and technology can contribute, and to 5 operative relationships should be established that which 5 devise strategies for the conduct of science and technol- 6 encourage the sharing of science and technology de- 6 ogy for these purposes. 7 cisionmaking, funding support, and program planning 7 (7) (6) Comprehensive legislative support for the 8 and execution among all interested elements of society. 8 national science and technology effort requires that the 9 (5) Ways and means should be developed by which 9 Congress be regularly informed of the condition, health 10 the Federal Government can determine and establish the 10 and vitality, and funding requirements of science and 11 level of national effort in science and technology which 11 technology, the relation of science and technology to 12 should be sustained, taking into account competing pub- 12 changing national goals, and the need for legislative 13 lie needs and available resources. 13 modification of the Federal endeavor and structure at all 14 (5) Ways and means should be developed by which 14 levels as it relates to science and technology. 15 the Federal Government can assess and help assure that 15 Procedures 16 an adequate national effort is maintained in science and 16 (c) The Congress declares that, in order to expedite 17 technology, taking into account competing public needs, 17 and facilitate the implementation of the policy enunciated 18 available resources, and the contributions which science 18 in subsection (a) of this section, the following coordinate 19 and technology can make to national goals and objectives. 19 procedures are of paramount importance: 20 (6) Granting the need for # variety of approaches 20 (1) Federal procurement policy should encourage 21 within and among Federal, State, local, and nongov- 21 the use of science and technology to foster frugal use 22 ernmental activities in science and technology, it is 22 of materials, energy, and appropriated funds; to assure 23 essential that means be proportioned to ends in the 23 quality environment; and to enhance product perform- 24 conduct of science and technology programs supported 24 ance. 25 or conducted by the Federal Government. Such pro- J. 59-097-0-2 10 11 1 (2) Explicit criteria, including cost-effectiveness 1 objective Federal patent policies should be developed, 2 principles where feasible practicable, should be developed 2 based on uniform principles, which have as their ob- 3 to identify the kinds of science applied research and tech- 3 jective the creation of incentives for technological innova- 4 nology programs that are appropriate for Federal fund- 4 tion and the application of procedures to assure the full 5 ing support and to determine the extent of such support. 5 use of beneficial technology to serve the public. 6 Particular attention should be given to scientific and 6 (5) Antitrust regulation to compel competitive eco- 7 technological problems and opportunities offering promise 7 nomic pluralism should not arbitrarily preclude coopera- 8 of social advantage that are SO long range, geographically 8 tion among competing firms in industrial research and 9 widespread, or economically diffused that the Federal 9 development beneficial to an entire industry and to the 10 Government constitutes the last resort appropriate source 10 public. 11 for undertaking their support. However, such projects 11 (6) Closer relationships should be encouraged 12 should conform with established criteria. 12 among practitioners of different scientific and techno- 13 (3) Federal promotion of science and technology 13 logical disciplines, including the physical, social, and bio- 14 should maximize emphasize quality of research, recognize 14 medical fields. 15 the singular importance of stability of in scientific and 15 (7) Federal departments, agencies, and instrumen- 16 technological institutions, and, for urgent tasks, must seek 16 talities should assure efficient management of laboratory 17 to assure timeliness of results. With particular reference 17 facilities and equipment in their custody, including acqui- 18 to Federal support for basic research, funds should be 18 sition of effective equipment, disposal of inferior and 19 allocated to encourage education in needed disciplines, 19 obsolete properties, and cross-servicing to maximize the 20 to provide a base of scientific knowledge from which 20 productivity of costly hardware. Disposal policies should 21 future essential technological development can be 21 include attention to possibilities for further productive 22 launched, and to add to the cultural heritage of the 22 use. 23 Nation. 23 (8) The full use of the contributions of science and 24 (4) A uniform patent policy should be promul- 24 technology to support State and local government goals 25 gated for all Federal agencies, having as its primary 25 should be encouraged. 12 13 1 (9) Formal recognition should be accorded those 1 with the advice and consent of the Senate, and who shall be 2 persons whose scientific and technological achievements 2 compensated at the rate provided for level II of the Execu- 3 have contributed significantly to the national welfare. 3 tive Schedule in section 5313 of title 5, United States Code. 4 (10) The Federal Government should support ap- 4 The President may, at his discretion, also appoint not more 5 plied scientific research in proportion to the probability 5 than four Assistant Directors, Directors by and with the 6 of its usefulness, insofar as this probability can be deter- 6 advice and consent of the Senate, who shall be compensated 7 mined; but while maximizing the beneficial consequences 7 at the a rate not to exceed that provided for level III of the 8 of technology, the Government should act to minimize 8 Executive Schedule in section 5314 of such title. Assistant 9 foreseeable injurious consequences. 9 Directors shall perform such functions as the Director may 10 (11) Federal departments, agencies, and instru- 10 from time to time prescribe. 11 mentalities should establish procedures to insure among 11 FUNCTIONS 12 them the systematic interchange of scientific data and 12 SEC. 204. (a) The Director shall be the President's 13 technological findings developed under their programs. 13 chief policy adviser and assistant with respect to scientific 14 TITLE II-OFFICE OF SCIENCE AND 14 and technological matters. 15 TECHNOLOGY POLICY 15 (b) In addition to such other functions and activities as 16 SHORT TITLE 16 the President may assign, the Director shall- 17 SEC. 201. This title may be cited as the "Presidential 17 (1) advise the President of scientific and technologi- 18 Science and Technology Advisory Organization Act of 18 cal considerations involved in areas of national concern 19 1975". 19 including, but not limited to, the economy, national secu- 20 ESTABLISHMENT 20 rity, health, foreign relations, the environment, and the 21 SEC. 202. There is hereby established in the Executive 21 technological recovery and use of resources; 22 Office of the President the Office of Science and Technology 22 (2) evaluate the scale, quality, and effectiveness of 23 Policy, hereinafter referred to in this title as the "Office". 23 the Federal effort in science and technology and advise 24 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR; ASSISTANT DIRECTORS 24 on appropriate actions; 25 SEC. 203. There shall be at the head of the Office a 25 (3) advise the President on scientific and techno- 26 Director who shall be appointed by the President, by and 14 15 1 logical considerations with regard to Federal budgets, 1 capability at all levels of government, academia, and 2 provide assist the Office of Management and Budget with 2 industry, and for the application of such capabilities to 3 an annual review and analysis of the funding proposed 3 national needs; 4 for research and development in budgets of all Federal 4 (7) in accordance with Presidential directives, fa- 5 agencies, and participate aid the Office of Management 5 cilitate assess and advise on policies for international 6 and Budget and the agencies throughout the budget de- 6 cooperation in science and technology which will advance 7 velopment process; 7 the national and international objectives of the United 8 (4) assist the President in providing general leader- 8 States; 9 ship and coordination of the research and development 9 (8) identify and assess emerging and future areas 10 programs of the Federal Government; 10 where science and technology can be used effectively in 11 (5) provide the President and the Congress with 11 addressing national and international problems; 12 annual periodic reviews of Federal statutes and admin- 12 (9) submit to the President and the Congress timely 13 istrative regulations governing the research and develop- 13 public reports on developments, trends, and problems in 14 ment activities of the various departments and agencies, 14 science and technology deserving of national attention; 15 including those affecting government-industry activities, 15 (10) periodically review the nature and needs of 16 together with any recommendations for their elimination, 16 national science policy and make recommendations to 17 reform, or updating as appropriate; 17 the President and to the Congress for its timely and 18 (6) develop, review, and revise criteria for deter- 18 appropriate revision, in accordance with section 102 (a) 19 mining optimum Federal support for science and tech- 19 (6) of title I of this Act; and 20 nology, and recommended policies, programs, and plans 20 (11) maintain liaison with the Federal Council for 21 for develop, review, revise, and recommend criteria for 21 Science and Technology, the National Science Board, 22 determining the type of scientific and technological activ- 22 and with all councils and offices of the Executive Office 23 ities warranting Federal support, and recommend Fed- 23 of the President, and develop appropriate working rela- 24 eral policies directed toward the development and mainte- 24 tionships with the National Security Council and the 25 nance of a broadly based scientific and technological 25 Domestic Council. 16 17 1 PERSONNEL 1 Federal agencies with or without reimbursement, and may 2 SEC. 205. The Director is authorized, without regard 2 transfer funds made available pursuant to this Act to other 3 to the provisions of title 5 of the United States Code govern- 3 Federal agencies as reimbursement for the utilization of such 4 ing appointments in the competitive service and chapter 51 4 services, personnel, equipment, and facilities. 5 and subchapter III of chapter 53 of said title, to appoint and 5 REORGANIZATIONS 6 fix the compensation, but not in excess of the rate prescribed 6 SEC. 208. (a) The President shall from time to time 7 for grade GS-18 of the General Schedule in section 5332 of 7 examine the organization of the Office and shall deter- 8 said title, for such officers and employees as he may deem 8 mine what changes, if any, are necessary to reduce expendi- 9 necessary to perform the functions now or hereafter vested 9 tures and promote economy and efficiency, and to increase 10 in him, and to prescribe their duties. 10 the Office's and the Director's capacity to render their 11 CONSULTANT AND OTHER SERVICES 11 analyses, examinations, advice, and counsel, by reduction or 12 SEC. 206. The Director may (1) obtain services as 12 increase in the number of members of such Office or by 13 authorized by section 3109 of title 5 of the United States 13 reduction, expansion, or alteration of the duties and functions 14 Code, at rates not to exceed the rate prescribed for grade 14 of the Office or of its Director. When the President, after 15 GS-18 of the General Schedule by section 5332 of title 5 of 15 investigation, finds that any of such changes would promote 16 the United States Code, and (2) enter into contracts and 16 the policies and purposes of this Act, he may prepare a 17 other arrangements for studies, analyses, and other services 17 reorganization plan for effecting the change or changes in- 18 with public agencies and with private persons, organizations, 18 volved, and submit such plan to the Congress, together with 19 or institutions, and make such payments as he deems neces- 19 his findings and a statement of reasons for the proposed 20 sary to carry out the provisions of this Act without legal 20 change or changes, and shall have any such reorganization 21 consideration, without performance bonds, and without regard 21 plan delivered to both Houses on the same day and to each 22 to section 3709 of the Revised Statutes (41 U.S.C. 5) 22 House while it is in session. 23 OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES 23 (b) A provision contained in a reorganization plan shall 24 SEC. 207. The Director may utilize with their consent 24 take effect at the end of the first period of sixty calendar days 25 the services, personnel, equipment, and facilities of other 25 of continuous session of Congress after such plan is trans- 18 19 1 mitted to it (such days of continuous session to be computed 1 members appointed by the President not more than 90 days 2 in accordance with section 906 (b) of title 5, United States 2 after the confirmation (as provided in section 203 of this 3 Code) unless, between the date of transmittal and the end 3 Act) of the Director of the Office of Science and Technology 4 of the sixty-day period, each House has passed a resolution 4 Policy. The President shall designate one of such members 5 stating in substance that that House does not favor the 5 to The Director of such Office shall serve as Chairman. 6 reorganization plan. However, no such plan shall take effect 6 (2) Each of the members Members of the Committee 7 unless it is submitted to Congress before January 3, 1980. 7 appointed by the President pursuant to paragraph (1) shall 8 (c) The provisions of sections 908 through 913 of title 8 (A) be exceptionally qualified and distinguished in science, 9 5, United States Code, shall apply with respect to any 9 engineering, or closely related fields, or in public administra- 10 reorganization plan transmitted to the Congress pursuant to 10 tion or affairs, and shall be capable of rendering accurate and 11 subsection (a) of this section. 11 comprehensive analysis and critical examination of the pro- 12 (d) A reorganization plan which is effective shall be 12 grams and activities of the Government in the light of the 13 printed (1) in the Statutes at Large in the same volume as 13 findings and policies set forth in title I of this Act, and (B) 14 the public laws, and (2) in the Federal Register. 14 include representatives of the public, of the industrial sector, 15 TITLE III-THE FEDERAL SCIENCE AND TECH- 15 and of the academic community. 16 NOLOGY SURVEY COMMITTEE 16 (3) Members of the Committee who are not officers of 17 ORGANIZATION 17 the Federal Government shall, while attending meetings 18 SEC. 301. (a) (1) There is hereby established within 18 of the Committee or while engaged in duties related to such 19 the Executive Office of the President, and in association with 19 meetings or in other activities of the Committee pursuant 20 as part of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, or 20 to this Act, be entitled to receive the daily equivalent of the 21 in such other manner as the President may direct, a Federal 21 annual rate of basic pay in effect for GS-18 of the General 22 Science and Technology Survey Committee (hereinafter in 22 Schedule for each day, including traveltime, during which 23 this title referred to as the "Committee"). The Committee 23 they are SO attending or engaged, and shall, while away 24 shall consist of not less than five nor more than twelve 24 from their homes or regular places of business, be allowed 21 20 1 travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of subsistence, 1 Air Force) is authorized (1) to furnish to the Committee 2 equal to that authorized by law (5 U.S.C. 5703) for per- 2 such information as may be necessary for carrying out its 3 sons in the Government service employed intermittently. 3 functions and as may be available to or procurable by such 4 (b) The Committee shall, with the approval of the 4 department, agency, or instrumentality, and (2) to detail 5 President, appoint an Executive Director who shall serve as 5 to temporary duty with the Committee on a reimburs- 6 chief executive officer, and who shall be paid at the rate 6 able basis such personnel within his administrative juris- 7 provided for level IV of the Executive Schedule in section 7 diction as it may need or believe to be useful for carrying 8 5315 of title 5, United States Code. 8 out its functions. Each such detail shall be without loss of 9 (c) (b) In the performance of its duties and functions 9 seniority, pay, or other employee status, to civilian em- 10 under section 302, the Committee is authorized, through 10 ployees SO detailed, and without loss of status, rank, office, 11 the Executive Director or otherwise- authorized- 11 or grade, or of any emolument, perquisite, right, privilege, 12 (1) to select, appoint, employ, and fix the com- 12 or benefit incident thereto, to military personnel SO de- 13 pensation of such specialists and other experts as may be 13 tailed. Each such detail shall be pursuant to a cooperative 14 necessary for the carrying out of its duties and functions, 14 agreement of the Chairman with the head of the relevant 15 and to select, appoint, and employ, subject to the civil 15 department, agency, or instrumentality, and shall be in ac- 16 service laws, such other officers and employees as may 16 cordance with the provisions of subchapter III of chapter 33, 17 be necessary for carrying out its duties and functions; 17 title 5, United States Code. 18 and 18 DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS 19 (2) to provide for participation of such civilian and 19 SEC. 302. (a) The Committee shall survey, examine, 20 military personnel as may be detailed to the Committee 20 and analyze the total overall context of the Federal science 21 pursuant to subsection (d) (c) of this section for carry- 21 and technology effort including missions, goals, personnel, 22 ing out the functions of the Committee. 22 funding, organization, facilities, and activities in general. In 23 (d) (c) Upon request of the Committee, the head of 23 pursuit of this duty the Committee shall give particular at 24 any Federal department, agency, or instrumentality (includ- 24 tention to, , among other things, consider needs for- 25 ing the head of the Department of the Army, Navy, or 25 (1) organizational reform; 22 23 1 (2) improvements in existing systems for handling 1 such supporting data and material as may be necessary, to 2 scientific and technological information on a government- 2 the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy. 3 wide basis; President. 3 4 (3) technology assessment in the executive branch; 4 (2) The Director of such Office shall review the report 5 (4) improved methods for effecting technology 5 of the Committee and, within sixty days of receipt thereof, 6 innovation, transfer, and use; 6 transmit such report to the President and The President, 7 (5) stimulating more effective Federal-State and 7 within sixty days of receipt thereof, shall transmit such report 8 Federal-industry liaison and cooperation in science and 8 to each House of Congress together with such comments, 9 technology; 9 observations, and recommendations thereon as he deems 10 (6) reduction and simplification of Federal regu- 10 appropriate. 11 lations and administrative practices and procedures 11 TERMINATION; FINAL REPORT 12 which may have the effect of retarding technological 12 SEC. 303. The life of the Committee shall be fifteen 24 13 innovation or opportunities for its utilization; 13 months from the date of its first organizational meeting. The 14 (7) a broader base for support of basic research; 14 Committee's final report setting forth its findings and recom- 15 (8) ways and means of effectively integrating 15 mendations shall be issued within this period. 16 scientific and technological factors into our national and 16 TITLE IV-MISCELLANEOUS 17 international policies; 17 AUTHORIZATION 18 (9) maintenance of adequate scientific and techno- 18 SEC. 401. There are authorized to be appropriated such 19 logical manpower with regard to both quality and quan- 19 sums as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this 20 tity; and 20 Act. 21 (10) improved systems for planning and analysis 21 REPORT 22 of the overall Federal science and technology budget. 22 SEC. 402. Sections 1, 2, 3, and 4 of Reorganization 23 (b) (1) Upon completion of its assignment, the Com- 23 Plan Numbered 2 of 1962 (76 Stat. 1253) and section 2 of 24 mittee shall submit a report of its activities, findings, and 24 Reorganization Plan Numbered 1 of 1973 (87 Stat. 1089) 25 conclusions, and recommendations, together with including 25 are repealed. [COMMITTEE PRINT] H.R. 9058 with suggested revisions September 16, 1975 94TH CONGRESS 1ST SESSION H. R. 9058 24 AMENDMENT SEC. 403. Section 4 of the National Science Foundation Act of 1950 (42 U.S.C. 1863) is amended by striking out subsection (g) and by redesignating subsections (h), (i), 5 and (j) as subsections (g), (h), and (i), respectively. A BILL To establish a science and technology policy for the United States, to provide for scientific and technological advice and assistance to the President, to provide a comprehensive survey of ways and means for improving the Federal effort in scientific research and in- formation handling, and in the use thereof, to amend the National Science Foundation Act of 1950, and for other purposes. By Mr. TEAGUE and Mr. MOSHER JULY 30, 1975 Referred to the Committee on Science and Technology 1 2 3 4 THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON Oct. 2, 1975 JMC: Dick Allison thought you might want to read this before your meeting with Teague & Mosher tomorrow. p NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION NATIONAL SCIENCE BOARD WASHINGTON, D.C. 20550 October 2, 1975 Honorable James A. Cannon Assistant to the President for Domestic Affairs The White House Office Washington, D. C. 20500 Dear Mr. Cannon: I am today dispatching the enclosed letters regarding the National Science Board's comments on H.R. 9058 to Mr. Teague and Mr. Mosher. We would be pleased if you could bring to the attention of both the President and the Vice President these comments of the Board. With best regards, Sincerely yours, Norman Hackerman Chairman Enclosures (2) NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION NATIONAL SCIENCE BOARD WASHINGTON, D.C. 20550 October 2, 1975 Honorable Olin E. Teague Chairman, Committee on Science and Technology U.S. House of Representatives Washington, D. C. 20515 Dear Mr. Teague: The National Science Board has followed with considerable interest the development of H.R. 9058 which would establish a science and technology policy for the United States, provide for scientific and technological advice and assistance to the President, and provide for a comprehensive survey of the organization of science and technology in the Executive Branch. The Board has asked that I convey its views to you in the hope that they will be helpful to you and the Committee on Science and Technology as you consider H.R. 9058 in the weeks ahead. The National Science Board finds H.R. 9058 with suggested revisions of September 16, 1975, to be a valuable contribution to the advance of science and technology. The statement of the need and desirability for utilizing science and technology to achieve national objectives in Title I is, in the Board's opinion, an excellent one. We have one suggestion to make, however; that is, to state explicitly the fact that basic research underlies all advances in science and technology. Title II establishing the Office of Science and Technology Policy provides for a flexible yet effective method of establishing an advisory mechanism on science and technology in the Executive Office of the President. With respect to Title III, the present organization of many Federal institutions supporting science and technology in the United States stems largely from national policy decisions made in the late 1940's. While there has been an effective and productive relationship of Federal sponsorship of science and technology during nearly three decades, and while certain elements of the organization have been studied, it is appropriate to consider whether this same organization is indeed suitable for the future. A study, such as the one proposed in Title III and conducted as one of the responsibilities of the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, should be a useful and timely initiative. Honorable Olin E. Teague October 2, 1975 The Board notes that Title IV would abolish the requirement in the National Science Foundation Act that the Board " render an annual report to the President, for submission to the Congress, on the status and health of science and its various disciplines. We feel that the statutory report requirement has been useful in providing a medium for formal communication on scientific progress and problems to the President, the Congress, and the public. However, we would not interpret the repeal of this requirement to preclude our submission of reports from time to time to the President and the Congress on important scientific matters. Thus, the National Science Board endorses H.R. 9058 and hopes that the Committee will seek its early passage. In conclusion, let me express on behalf of the Board our continued admiration for your personal leadership in the development of this proposed legislation. With best regards, Sincerely yours, Norman Hackerman Chairman -2- NATIONAL SCIENCE FOUNDATION NATIONAL SCIENCE BOARD WASHINGTON, D.C. 20550 October 2, 1975 Honorable Charles A. Mosher U.S. House of Representatives Washington, D. C. 20515 Dear Mr. Mosher: The National Science Board has followed with considerable interest the development of H.R. 9058 which would establish a science and technology policy for the United States, provide for scientific and technological advice and assistance to the President, and provide for a comprehensive survey of the organization of science and technology in the Executive Branch. The Board has asked that I convey its views to you in the hope that they will be helpful to you and the Committee on Science and Technology as you consider H.R. 9058 in the weeks ahead. The National Science Board finds H.R. 9058 with suggested revisions of September 16, 1975, to be a valuable contribution to the advance of science and technology. The statement of the need and desirability for utilizing science and technology to achieve national objectives in Title I is, in the Board's opinion, an excellent one. We have one suggestion to make, however; that is, to state explicitly the fact that basic research underlies all advances in science and technology. Title II establishing the Office of Science and Technology Policy provides for a flexible yet effective method of establishing an advisory mechanism on science and technology in the Executive Office of the President. With respect to Title III, the present organization of many Federal institutions supporting science and technology in the United States stems largely from national policy decisions made in the late 1940's. While there has been an effective and productive relationship of Federal sponsorship of science and technology during nearly three decades, and while certain elements of the organization have been studied, it is appropriate to consider whether this same organization is indeed suitable for the future. A study, such as the one proposed in Title III and conducted as one of the responsibilities of the Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy, should be a useful and timely initiative. Honorable Charles A. Mosher October 2, 1975 The Board notes that Title IV would abolish the requirement in the National Science Foundation Act that the Board " render an annual report to the President, for submission to the Congress, on the status and health of science and its various disciplines. " We feel that the statutory report requirement has been useful in providing a medium for formal communication on scientific progress and problems to the President, the Congress, and the public. However, we would not interpret the repeal of this requirement to preclude our submission of reports from time to time to the President and the Congress on important scientific matters. Thus, the National Science Board endorses H.R. 9058 and hopes that the Committee will seek its early passage. Let me take this occasion to express to you on behalf of the Board our gratitude for your continued support of science and science education in the United States. With best regards, Sincerely yours, Norman Hackerman Chairman -2- [Roll No.: 581] Eilberg Lehman Richmond REQUEST Emery Lent YEAS-237 Riegle Esch Levitas Rodino SUBCOMMITTEE ON PUBLIC Abdnor Grassley Nowak Evans, Ind. Long, Md. Roe BUILDINGS GROUNDS OF Alexander Guyer Obey Fascell Lujan Boncalio COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC WORKS Anderson, III. Hagedorn O'Brien Fisher McHugh Rooney Andrews, N.C. Hamilton Ottinger Fithian McKinney Rose AND TRANSPORTATION TO MEET Andrews, Hammer- Passman Flood Madden Rosenthal ANY TIME NEXT WEEK DURING N. Dak. schmidt Patman, Tex. Florio Maguire Rostenkowski THE 5-MINUTE RULE Archer Hansen Pattison, N.Y. Ford, Mich Martin Roush Armstrong Hastings Pettis Ford, Tenn. Mathis Roybal Mr. RONCALIO. Mr. Speaker, I ask Ashley Hays, Ohio Pickle Gaydos Mezvinsky Runnels unanimous consent that the Subcom- Aspin Heckler, Mass. Poage Glaimo Mikva Russo Bafalis Henderson Pressler Ginn Miller, Calif. St Germain mittee on Public Buildings and Grounds Baldus Hicks Preyer Green Miller, Ohio Santini. of the Committee on Public Works and Baucus Hightower Price Gude Mineta Sarbanes Transportation be permitted to meet Beard, Tenn. Hillis Pritchard Haley Minish Schroeder Bell Hinshaw Quie Hall Mink Sharp any time next week, while the House is Bergland Holland Quillen Hanley Mitchell, Md. Smith, Iowa in session, under the 5-minute rule. Bevill Horton Railsback Hannaford Moakley Spellman The SPEAKER. Is there objection to Biester Hubbard Randall Harkin Moffett Stanton, Bingham Hungate Rangel Harrington Mollohan James V. the request of the gentleman from Bowen Hutchinson Rees Harris Moss Stark Wyoming? Breaux Hyde Regula Harsha Mottl Steiger, Ariz. Mr. BAUMAN. Mr. Speaker, reserving Breckinridge Ichord Rhodes Hawkins Murphy, III. Stokes Brinkley Jarman Rinaldo Hayes, Ind. Murphy, N.Y. Studds the right to object, perhaps the gentle- Brooks Jeffords Risenhoover Hechler, W. Va. Natcher Thompson man from Wyoming could confine his Broomfield Johnson, Colo. Roberts Hefner Neal Traxler request to a request for tomorrow, and Brown, Mich. Johnson, Pa. Robinson Heinz Nedzi Tsongas Broyhill Jones, Ala. Rogers Helstoski Nix Vander Veen then he can make a new one on Monday. Buchanan Jones, Okla. Ryan Holt Nolan Vanik Mr. RONCALIO. Mr. Speaker, If the Burgener Jones, Tenn. Sarasin Holtzman Oberstar Vigorito gentleman will yield, I have made the Burleson, Tem Jordan Satterfield Howard O'Hara Waxman Burlison, Mo. Karth Scheuer Howe O'Neill Weaver request for next week since we have al- Butler Kasten Schneebell Hughes Patten, N.J. Whitehurst ready canceled two meetings this week. Carter Kazen Schulze Jacobs Patterson, Wolff We are not scheduled to meet tomorrow. Casey Kelly Sebelius Jenrette Calif. Wydler Cederberg Kemp Seiberling Johnson, Calif. Pepper Yates Mr. BAUMAN. Mr. Speaker, in the Chappell Ketchum Shipley Jones, N.C. Perkins Yatron absence of my colleague, the gentleman Chisholm Keys Shriver Kastenmeier Peyser Young, Ga. from California, I would be constrained Clancy Kindness Shuster Koch Pike Zeferetti Clausen, Krueger Sikes Krebs Reuss to object to granting permission for the Don H. LaFalce Simon entire week, and I do object. Cleveland Lagomarsino NOT VOTING-20 Skubitz The SPEAKER. Objection is heard. Cochran Landrum Slack AuCoin Hébert Staggers Cohen Latta Smith, Nebr. Biaggi Macdonald Steed Collins, Tex. Leggett Snyder Bolling Metcalfe Sullivan Conable - Litton Solarz Brown, Ohio Rousselot Treen PERMISSION FOR COMMITTEE ON Conte Lloyd, Calif. Stanton, Dingell Ruppe Udall PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPOR- Coughlin Lloyd, Tenn. J. William Evins, Tenn. Sisk Van Deerlin Crane Long, La. Steelman Fary Spence TATION TO MEET TOMORROW Daniel, Dan Lott Steiger, Wis. DURING THE 5-MINUTE RULE Daniel, R. W. McClory Stephens The Clerk announced the following de la Garza McCloskey Stratton pairs: Mr ANDERSON of California. Mr. Dent McOollister Stuckey On this vote: Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that Derwinski McCormack Symington the Committee on Public Works and Devine McDade Symms Mr. Hébert for, with Mr. AuCoin against. Dickinson McDonald Talcott Mr. Treen for, with Mr. Biaggi against. Transportation be permitted to meet to- Downing, Va McEwen Taylor, Mo. Mr. Sisk for, with Mr. Macdonald of Massa- morrow for the purpose of conducting Duncan, Oreg. McFall Taylor, N.C. chusetts against. business during the-5-minute rule. Eckhardt McKay Teague Edwards, Ala. Madigan Mr. Steed for, with Mr. Metcalfe against. Thone The SPEAKER. Is there objection to English Mahon Thornton Mr. Staggers for, with Mr. Fary against. the request of the gentleman from Erlenborn Mann Uliman Mr. Evins of Tennessee for, with Mrs. Sul- California? Eshleman Matsunaga Vander Jagt livan against. Evans, Colo. Mazzoli Waggonner Mr., Van Deerlin for, with Mr. Dingell There was Fenwick Meeds Walsh against Findley Melcher Wampler Fish Meyner Whalen Until further notice: Flowers Michel White Flynt Whitten Mr. Udall with Mr. Rousselot. LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM FOR Milford Foley Mills Wiggins Mr. Brown of Ohio with Mr. Spence. TOMORROW Forsythe Mitchell, N.Y. Wilson, Bob Fountain Montgomery Wilson, C. H. Mrs. SCHROEDER and Messrs. BEN- (Mr. RHODES asked and was given Fraser Moore Wilson, Tex. NETT and TRAXLER changed their permission to address the House for 1 Frenzel Moorhead, Winn vote from "yea" to "nay." minute and to revise and extend his re- Frey Calif Wirth Fuqua Wright Messrs. TEAGUE and CHARLES marks.) Moorhead, Pa: Gibbons Morgan Wylie WILSON of Texas changed their vote Mr. RHODES. Speaker, I take Gilman Mosher Young, Alaska this time to ask the distinguished acting Goldwater Murtha Young, Fis from "nay" to "yea." Gonzalez Myers, Ind. Young, Ted. So the Senate bill was passed. majority leader what the program is for Goodling Myers, Pa. Zablocki tomorrow, if he has it available. Gradison Nichols The result of the vote was announced Mr. McFALL. Will the distinguished as above recorded. NAYS-176 minority leader yield? Abzug A motion to reconsider was laid on Bonker Cornell Mr. RHODES. I am happy to yield to Adams Brademas Cotter the table. the gentleman from California. Addabbo Brodhead D'Amours Ambro Brown, Calif. Mr. McFALL. The proposed program Daniels, N.J. Anderson, Burke, Calif. Danielson GENERAL LEAVE for tomorrow is, first, consideration of Calif. Burke, Fla. Davis H.R. 8070, the HUD appropriations con- Annunzio Burke, Mass. Delaney Mr. MORGAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask ference report. Ashbrook Burton, John Dellums unanimous consent that all Members may Badillo Burton, Phillip Derrick Second on the calendar will be H.R. Barrett Byron Diggs have 5 legislative days in which to re- 8841, Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Bauman Carney Dodd vise and extend their remarks on the Rodenticide Act Amendments, commonly Beard, R.I. Carr Downey, N.Y. Senate bill just passed. Bedell Clawson, Del known as FIFRA. Drinan Bennett Clay Duncan, Tenn. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to No. 3 will be S. 584, retirement credit Blanchard Collins, III. du Pont the request of the gentleman from Penn- for National Guard technician service. Blouin Conlan Early Boggs sylvania? Conyers Edgar No. 4 will be H.R. 7222, Federal em- Boland Corman Edwards, Calif. There was no objection. ployees' group life insurance.