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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
DECLASSIFIED
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
E.O. 12958, Sec. 3.5
NSC Memo, 11/24/98, State Dept. Guidelines (Sulser)
By KBH , NARA, Date 6/29/99
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
President Ford
Ambassador Gaja, Ambassador of Italy
Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant
to the President for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Monday, July 14, 1975
4:30 p.m.
PLACE:
The Oval Office
The White House
President: We have wonderful pictures of that day in Rome.
[The press is admitted for photographs.
It was a perfect day and we have some beautiful helicopter pictures.
Also of the grounds, the ceremony, the luncheon.
Gaja: We hope we will have the honor of welcoming you there again sometime
when you can stay longer.
[The press goes out.]
President: Mrs. Ford and I have been there two times before -- the last
time was in 1956.
Please give President Leone and Prime Minister Moro my best. We
had a very fine day there and we greatly appreciate their hospitality.
Gaja: Our elections were a surprise. What was completely new was the
advance of the Communist Party.
President: Yes. Your loss was expected -- it was the Communist advance
that was unexpected.
CLASSIFIED BY HENRY A. KISSINGER
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
EXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION
SCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652
EXEMPTION CATEGORY 5 (b) (1,3)
AUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to Det.
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
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Gaja: Yes. We lost only 2-3%. But all the other losses went to the
Communists, especially from the Socialist Democrats and the Liberals.
They got some from the extreme left also. This is the first time the
18-year-olds could vote and that may have made the difference.
President: We wish you the best. The last thing we want is Communist
influence in your government.
It is not comparable, but we are very worried by the situation in
Portugal. Soares and the PPD are now out and the situation is now very
troublesome.
Gaja: Our loyalties both to NATO and to the European Community are beyond
doubt. For the time being there is no danger of Communists in the govern-
ment. There will be local governments controlled by the Communists and
that will also be troublesome. With the Socialists we can still have a
majority so there is no need for the Communists. The Socialists' position
is delicate but we will have a majority with them.
President: When is the next election?
Gaja: Two years, and we won't want one earlier.
President: You have done very well with your economy.
Gaja: Yes, we have. The price of oil has made it very difficult, but we hope
1976 will be a good year.
President: Things are bottoming out for us. We see things going steadily
upward in 1976, if we can avoid recreating the situation which brought about
the current situation. One problem is OPEC, but we hope there will be no
big price increase, and I hope the IEA can work toward reducing its
dependence on OPEC.
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