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10/10/53 - Reel 3. track 2 - Page 1 MR. HARRIEAN: Go ahead and say what you did say then. MR. ACHESON: Well, we will go over in detail the development of NATO operation from the early part of 1950 on, but the important thing which I think we ought to discuss here is the fundamental question of and organization, and that is that in this coalition of, in this international grouping. The only technique, the only method which (we had) available was to have soldiers tell us what they thought the needs were, and as they developed these needs they were so absolutely uncontrolled by the ordinary restraints which exist within a national state that they exceeded all possible bounds of what could be done, and by their very magni tude they discouraged those who clearly saw that they couldn't be accomplished, and created a very grave political si tuation, because on the one hand you had to do something which you couldn't do, and on the other if you couldn't do it defense was impossible. Therefore, a major political crisis was created through a lack F TRUMAND "NATIONAL ARCHIVENS of organization and controls which would ordinarily exist within RECORDS ADMIN . E a national state, and this is one of the problems of coalition CONERAMENT and international operations. DR. OPPENHEIMER: Wasn't this at least somewhat exacerbated because of general uncertainty, I would think in the air as well as among the governments, as to whether the events in North Korea - the intervention of the Chinese, and so on - meant that a threat was indeed very near? And if a threat had indeed been very near, even twenty-five billion dollars would not have been more than (we were willing to spend).