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3/14/54: Reel 4, Track 1, Page 1 DR. 01 PPENHEIMER: the intellectuals were neither the elite in the sense of those who were deterininig the future of the country nor the masses, and they took a very skeptical view of this whole time. Many of them were MR. ACHESON: Talk a little louder, please DR. OPPENHEIMER: I have the impression of-that they have something n° that is more solid and more ranging, because they were against the (war?) program before the war; they were against the militarists before the war. A They were against the occupation but not hostile to it. They were and against the DE USSR. This is not the most (confused) US and yet I think it amounted to thit, if it was ever a condition of freedom. It is much closer to Europe than it is to the United States. MR. RUSK: "le felt during the occupation that we had not been able to establish any real contact with the intellectual leadership of Japan, whether it was in the field of law or literature or the arts or education. I think that was confirmed by the efforts made in the post-occupation period on the part of private American organizations, as the Foundations, to re- establish contact wi th the intellectual leadership. We found that the university presidents, the university professors, were extremely shy about reestablishing contacts with American-with even American private organi- zations; and that contributed greatly, I think, to this growing gap between Japanese opinion and the attitude of the occupation. DR. OPPENHEIMER: But as early as '48, we were bringing over the top people in the sciences right here. MR. RUSK: But only the top people who would come; there were others who wouldn't come. DR. OPPENHEIMER: There was no one who wouldn't come. that might be true in MR. RUSK: the sciences; I'm not sure that it was on some of the others DR. OPPENHEIMER: Well, I only speak of the sciences MR. FEIS: Is this the first time, Dean, this group has discussed Japan?