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preferred to maintain the occupation indefinitely, in terms of their
authority over Jap an. And that was the central issue; they just didn't
a
want to give up their right to take what they wanted, to put what troops thu
us and
they wanted there, to use Japan for whatever purpose they wanted to. It
was a very. broad problem that was involved, not any matter of detail.
MR. FEIS:
That must not have been a very easy series of provisions to reach agreement
on.
MR. ACHESON:
It was very difficult indeed.
MR. RUSK:
well, they did not reach agreement on it; the Secretary took it to the
President, and he made a decisi on on it.
MR. ACHESON:
They were not worked out, as Dean says, in agreement. When we came to points
where
conversations K just were getting nowhere, we took it to the
President, and he decided it.
MR. FEIS
And then, on the basis of what the President was willing to support, you
found the Japanese fairly satisfied.
MR. ACHESON:
You had a hard time on the administrative agreement.
MR. RUSK:
Well, actually we had no great difficulty in getting the peace treaty and
the security treaty from the Japanese.
MR. FEIS:
I'm thinking of the administrative.
MR. RUSK:
Yes, when it came to the adninistrative agreement, we were asking for far
more than the Japanese themselves were willing to give, and I'll come to
that in just a few moments. We might take the Japanese Peace Conference
first.
MR. NITZE:
I'd like to say just one thing about the theoretical aspects of this.
I remember very serious discussions, Dean, that you initiated with S-P
as to the long-run theory of this peace treaty. And, as I remember, the
British were beginning to get into trouble in Africa over the Sues Canal
and the Suez base, and the question at issue really was with regard to
whether control over bases in Japan was of the same nature as the very (?)
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