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5/15/54: Reel 3, Track 2, Page 4 MR. ACHESON: MacDougall I guess it was; and somebody who may have been from the oil companies We presented this-II told him about our discussions with Mossadegh and assured him we had not undertaken to negotiate for the British. follow up We tried the general line of talks carried on by Averell and by Stokes when he got out there; we had tried to pick it up, and laid out for him what we had accomplished. And the British attitude was absolutely adamant no--no discussion; there was no give; there was no debate. Leslie Rowan took the view which I described earlier that this was an attack on British foreign investments; it had to fail; it had to be crushed; it is & 3 had to be punished; there was no ive about it at all. The people from U.S. the Ministry of Fuel attacked every idea that we had; they thought they were and wrong; visionary there was no possibility in them; they insisted that we had to have a judiciary deternination' of just compensation. They went all over the points we talked about earlier this afternoon. I tried to point out, as Averell and dihers had earlier, that whatever the mechanics were, whatever you did about this, the only element of payment, the only thing of value that there was here was the Iranian oil industry. And if you didn't get that working, then nobody had anything; it was a complete loss on all sides. But that got absolutely nowhere at all. We reported this to the department; Harold came to see me. I think I had one other talk with Eden, and the answer was a complete no. There was no disposition of any sort to explore what we tried to do or to be helpful about it or to get forward with it at all. So it seemed to me that we had come to the end of the thing; we had better give it up. And in Washington George told Mossadegh that this was all over; that we weren't able to do anything. Just how we got out of this thing-I remember that one of our great problems was to get out of this thing without really making the British the bad boys that they R really were, and how you did that, George, I don't know. MR. McGHEE: We issued a statement where wa said that we had explored with both sides and we found that they were both still so far apart that we didn't have

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