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Interview with Lt. Col. John H. Glenn, Jr. 2 it like we did an airplane or were we pretty much at the mercy of the guidance systems until we were in orbit. Prob- lems of that nature--what pressures we would be operating under; what we would do if the pressure in the spacecraft failed. He was interested in real detail. Mr. Sohier: Did he talk about the safety aspect, and seek your judgment as to whether the thing ought to go at this point in time? Colonel Glenn: Yes, he was concerned about this. He brought up whether we felt very personally every possible thing had been done to ensure our safety and I told him that when we first came into the program one of the things we were told, by Dr. Gilruth, was that we had veto control over anything that was to occur on the project. That at any time we, as experienced test pilots, saw something going on that we didn't like or there was an area that we thought needed more testing or anything that we weren't satisfied with, to let him know. Also, that any time we didn't feel right about going, he didn't want us to go. The President thought that was an excellent way to conduct such a project. Mr. Sohier: Did he go into the reasons that he wanted to ask you these questions, the reason for his concern as to the fact that perhaps he was getting some flak on the safety issue? Was there any discussion of that sort? Colonel Glenn: No. I was aware that he had been getting some questions on this, of course, and I knew of his interest in that context, but I don't think it was mainly that. I didn't get the impression that he was looking for material to refute anyone's criticism of him. I took it, and I think he meant it, as an interest in one human being to another--as one "guy" to another, if you will, if you can put the President in that context. Mr. Sohier: Yes. Now, your flight, I guess, was February 20, wasn't it? There were ceremonies after that at the Cape which he went down to, I think.

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