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although has a the and aho none city of New Orleans; that as soon as OSWALD under- description of the presumed author of the same, stood that it was not possible to give him a Cuban its having been only that night that they read visa without his previously obtaining a Russian one, extra (edition) the news relating thereto in and the subsequently on the radio at her residence caused she because agitated the and angry, as a result of which the former was for transit, he became highly the name of LEE HARVEY oswald, which speaker called Consul ASCUE, who, at that time, was heard her to remember that this name refers to a North 39 38 - COMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2464-Continued COMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2464-Continued in his private office in company of his ultimate replacement, MIRAVAL, but came out and bogan to argue in English with OSWALD in a vory angry speaker reccived from the Russian Concul YACKSOV manner and ASCUE concluded by caying to him that, when the latter visited ASCUE and MIRAVAL and 'As far as he was concorned, ne yould not give delivered to then tnoir respective invitations him a visa, and that 'A porson lil:c him, in at the Cuban Consulate. That with respect to place of aiding the Cuban Revolution, was doing hor in-laws, LIDIA and RUBEN DURAN NAVARRO, the it harm, its being noted that in their discussion former on various occasions attended with the declarant the meetings which wore being hold at they had been referring to the Russian socialist revolution and not the Cuban, its being stated the Institute, wherens the lattor onl.y did so by O3WALD that he had two reasons to request the on one or two occasione in connection with visa with urgency, which were, one, that his exhibits of paintings and with respect to BETY permit to be in Mexico was expiring and the other SERRATO AZUCAR, the wife of RUBEN, she has always that he had urgent necessity of reaching Russia; remained aloof from these activities, although that in spite of the argument the speaker handed all of them are of leftist idcology but do not to OSWALD a piece of paper similar to that which actively participate in any activities; that she writes at this time in which she recorded BAR3APA ANN BLITS TRESMOND ESQUIVEL and AGATA her name, 'SILVIA DURAN, and the telephone ROSENO GARCIA are friends of DETY and the speaker number of the Consulate, which is '11-28-47, ' and, has known them very little and superficially, at any rate, she initiated the handling of his as a result of which she knows nothing about visa application by sending it to the Cuban their activities and idcologies, and in connection Ministry of (Forcign) Affairs, from which a reply with the gentloman who she now knows is named was received in the normal manner some fifteen BENTLEY, she had never soen him before and to thirty days later approving the issuance of supposes that he is a fricnd of BARBARA, since a visa, but conditioning it on his previously she noticed that ho was thlking to BARBARA when obtaining the Russian (one) although she does they were dining at the home of the deponent, not rocall whether OSWALD subsequently called being present her husband, AGATA and LIDIA, her or not on the telephone for the Consulate whereas the others were n't the homo of her brother- which she had given him; that all of the conver- in-law, RUEEN. That she has nothing further to sation which the speaker had with oswald, as declare and after reading the above, she ratifies well as that of Cor ul ASCUE with him, was in and signs the margins in evidence thereof. The above document is closed authorized and the English languago since he did not speak any witnessed. Spanish, and that upon secing his photograph which appears in today' newspapers, specifically in the newspaper 'El Pin, she immediately Signed, Assistant Director of Foderal Security, recognized and identified it as being the same Captain FERNANDO GUTIERREZ BARRIOS. person that she has been referring to as LEE Witnesses: Lic. (Atty.) FERMANDO ORTIZ DE LA PENA; HARVEY OSWALD. That on only one occasion the Lic. CARLOS DURAN LANZ. declarant attended a reception ceremony at the Russian Embassy which was given on the occasion of the visit of the astronnuts, GAGARIN and TERESHKOVA, on the personal invitztion which the . 41 40 et COMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2464-Continued COMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 2464-Continued

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