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    "ocrText": "subject\nmeeting lasted about 30 minuths wi ithout FERRIE actually telling\nWHALEN the specific details oil his\nthis meetirg, WHALEN spent the night ad an\napartment provided After by FERRIE- ride apartient, as WHALEN rectllis,\nlocated near or on Carrollton Avenue near its intersection\nwith was Tulane Avenue. FERRIE also provided with a 1953 black\nGalaxie Ford for his use while he was in town: WHALEN was to\nmeet\nFERRIE and someone else at the Absinkster House the next night at\nabout Il:45 P.M.\nWHALEN arrived at the Absinthe House Nirst the next\nnight. Shortly thereafter, FERRIE and CLAY SHAW arrivéd and FERRIE\nintroduced SHAW to WHALEN- At this time, SHAW was introduced as\nCLAY SHAW- At this meeting FERRIE did most of the talking. WHALEN\nfelt SHAW was sizing him up. During the course OF the conversation,\nFERRIE referred to SHAW as CLAY BERTRAND. SEAN became obviously\nirritated but said nothing directly to FERRIE! Upon leaving the\nbar, all three drove to FERRIE's apartment in the car being used\nby WHALEN-\nactually: Louician items Fuiling\nAs WHALEN now recalls, FERRIE's apartment was on\nLouisiana Boulevard and it whs with a screened\nfront parch. They entered the rear of the first floor apartment\nand remained in that apartment the entire time. However, WHALEN\nrecalls FERRIE going upstairs occasionally by the use of a stairway\nin the room next to thenone they were using. WHALEN also remembers\nPERRY RUSSO walking through the room on one occasion. However, he\ndid not say anything to anyone in the room. WHALEN stated that the\nfurniture in the apartment was old and inexpensive. Also, that the\napartment was in a generally shabby condition.\nFERRIE finally got around to what he and SHAW wanted\nWHALEN to do for his money - they wanted someone killed. SHAW was\nto pay WHALEN ten thousand dollars before the job was done and\nanother fifteen thousand dollars after its completion. Upon com-\npletion of the job, SHAW was to provide WHALEN with a /phony pass-\nport and (FERRIE}was to fly him to Mexico. SHAW stated chat the man\nto be killed was doing to be a witness against him for something\nthat had been done some time in the past and that if this man was\nnot killed he would out SHAN in the penitentiary for a Long t time\nThe intended victim's name was not mentioned at this time WHALEN\nwanted no part of the deal, but he pretended to string along. Before\nK leaving, SHAW gave WHALEN three hundred dollars spending money.\nWHALEN spent that night at a motel on Tulane Avenue\nnear the Fontainebleau. He did not use his real name to register\nand cannot remember the one he used.\nThe next day, FERRIE met WHALEN at/Moran's Restaurant)\nat 10:30 in the morning. FERRIE suggested they take a ride and\ntalk. While in the car FERRIE asked WHALEN if he had ever heard\nof Jim Garrison. WHALEN said he had not. FERRIE then told WHALEN\nthat Garrison was the District Attorney and that this was the man\nSHAW and he wanted KILLed. WHALEN at this time told FERRIE he\nwanted absolutely nothing to do with the deal. FERRIE attempted\nto talk WHALEN into going throught with the plan, but WHALEN per-\nsisted that he would not have anything to do with it. They then\n-2-"
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