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Secretary Laird
5:05 p. m. 9/30/69
K said he talked to the President about their meeting and also about Laird's
concern about dangers of a direct confrontation. He is now leaning to have
the heads of the agencies testify but not permitting any subordinates. It
will still produce some confrontation. Laird said they would have to call
the crytologist and didn't feel they should get too much into the committe
anyway. K said the President was going to make a public statement
sometime early tomorrow. The second thing was the President is going to
Key Biscayne on Thursday evening and would like to meet with the Joint
Chiefs XNX and Laird on Saturday afternoon. Laird indicated that he would
be going to NORAD but could cancel that. K said the President would like
to review, SO he knows, what he is up against. He will want to discuss the
plan they discussed in his office briefly with Mitchell.
Laird's problem was that he wasn't expecting the report until Thursday,
it would take him some time to go over it and Wheeler would not be here.
Wheeler will be back on Monday or Tuesday. Laird didn't think he could get
Wheeler back. K said the President was more interested in the concept
rather than the details and would really like to do it this weekend. If Laird
could get the report tomorrow, they could take it Thursday night. Laird said
it would be raw since he will not have all of the inputs. Wheeler's
meeting with Abrams. They will think the President is trying to bypass their
conference. K indicated that he told Robinson they couldn't work SO slowly
especially when the President is SO anxious for this. K was under the impression
that Wheeler would be sending in some of the stuff on Mon. or Tues. Laird siad
he sent the first raw material over. K said he would be reviewing it at 6:00.
Laird wanted K to know that he hadn't reviewed it nor had the Joint Chiefs.
K sa id the President wants to get a feel of this. He will understand that it is
raw. He doesn't care if there are 25 planes more or less. Laird the material
that would not be complete would be the targeting. They can't do it overnight.
Since the President has a foreign policy reason for wanting to do this, K thought
that Laird should count on doing it, K will point out to the President Laird's
concerns. Certainly there will be a full review of the finished product and not no
decision will be made at this meeting at K. B. They will have weeks to polish it
up. K said he would like to sit down with Laird and the Joint Chiefs at a separate
session and discuss this also. K said, pending the President changing his mind,
we should lay it on. K indicated that the President can focus better on it in this
atmosphere also and it hebps for diplomatic reasons. Laird said he would then
bring the four Chiefs minus Wheeler. K asked if he could have the report
by
Thursday night then and Laird said he thought he could get something but it will
certainly be raw. K said he understodo that.
Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library
DECLASSIFIED
This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.
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