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TELCON Sen. Jackson/Kissinger 4:00 pm 2/4/70 J: I am a little disturbed as a result of the comments by the President on the ABM. They are apt to leak this thing for some time. Mansfield and some of the others are sending out I have it from their staff. K: We aren't. Let them make asses of themselves. J: I agree. I have been very carefull and not said anything. But we should not let them go on this way for the next month. K: What do you think? J: I think we should cut them off. K: I could do a backgrounder tomorrow or Friday for 15 mins. I could step into the Zeigler briefing tomorrow morning and say that. Can I get your real feelings? I know you don't want it in the northwest this year and I know why. Does that mean you cannot go for it? J: If we put it near cities it puts me in an untenable position. K: Where is Ft. Lewis? J: Near a population area -- in the Army's inimitable way. You know how I feel. K: On this point, as in few, I don't completely agree with you. I understand why you don't want it this year. ?/ of P. ? ? ? K: The problem is that they're trying to drive us out of area defense. J: You don't have to get into Washington, D. C. , or the northeast this year. We could go for additional or strengthen up the first two. K: Let me talk to you about it. We will not go into the northwest against your opposition. But let me talk to you about Washington at sometime. J: I know Stennis has a speech. We should have an understanding on the Sentate side before any move K: Before a final decision we will talk to you.

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