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Richardson/Kissinger
12:35 pm
5/8/70
R: Are you wearing your epaulets today?
K: I am carried by the support of the administration and the touching feeling of
my students.
R: Are you seeing Shelling?
K: Yes. I just saw the delegation list 5 minutes ago. It's loaded with people
who think we have no foreign policy objectives until the Russians land north
of San Francisco. Wolzer and
.
Wolzer is extreme left. Are you seeing
them?
R: Yes. I doubt if there's anything I need to know.
K : I will let you know what happens.
R : We have the hearing on foreign military sales bill coming up on Monday and
withthe Cooper/Church amendment being proposed and I wonered about the views which
at
this stage.
K: What is the Cooper-Church bill?
R: It prohibits the use of any funds under this law or any other law for maintaining
ground forces in Cambodia and paying the persons in Cambodia who furnishes military
instructors to Cambodian forces ? ? ? ? ?? ? ? or (2) ? ? ? ? ? ? (3)? ?
(4) supporting any compat forces in the area above Cambodia accept for access into
South Vietnam. It wouldn't effect current operations in any way.
K: But it would make military assistance to Cambodia out of the question?
R : Not materiel assistance. It talks about people who support Cambodian forces or
engage in ? ? ? ? It's ambiguous of the kind currently underway. It uses the
words "in expending money for maintaining U.S. ground forces." It has no clear
cut effective date. I suppose it would be taking effect on enactment. They figure
? ? regular
whoch would be after the end of the fiscal year.
K: My view is that any Congressional restriction of this sort would be interpreted
in a particular way.
R: Let's assume that the ambiguity on the use of operations in the future aimed
at the
could be resolved that it doesn't prevent future operations. In
that case it's (priveldge?) would be U.S. forces in support of Cambodian army
military operations. It has to beweighed? the undesirablity of tying the President's
hands because it announces to Lon No1 and the world that we will not come to the
help of his government. In the face of domestic opinion is it better to acquiesce
in that we are RNK not going to use U.S. combat forces in support of Lon No1's
government. My purpose in calling is getting it focused.
K: We will have lunch tomorrow. I will raise this with the President.
R: It would be helpful if we could.
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